Comments on: Fun With Tasers! Brave Officer Tasers Violently Resisting Offender….. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Uncle Patso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1598605 Uncle Patso Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:25:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1598605 # 47 RTaylor: "This was the safest way to get the suspect cuffed and into the cruiser." No, this was torture! That guy was flat on the ground screaming (I counted sixteen full-throated screams without a pause before the video cut off, and that cop wasn't near done yet), and the cop was leaning on him with the taser, pulling the trigger again and again and again and again and again and again and again. You can hear the little "tickticktickticktick" of the two thousand to twenty thousand volt shocks, about five per second for fully fourteen seconds while the guy screams. He must have said or done something to really, really, REALLY piss off that cop. That cop was so totally casual and cold-blooded about it. # 47 RTaylor:
“This was the safest way to get the suspect cuffed and into the cruiser.”

No, this was torture! That guy was flat on the ground screaming (I counted sixteen full-throated screams without a pause before the video cut off, and that cop wasn’t near done yet), and the cop was leaning on him with the taser, pulling the trigger again and again and again and again and again and again and again. You can hear the little “tickticktickticktick” of the two thousand to twenty thousand volt shocks, about five per second for fully fourteen seconds while the guy screams.

He must have said or done something to really, really, REALLY piss off that cop. That cop was so totally casual and cold-blooded about it.

]]> By: omnicbex http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1598015 omnicbex Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:22:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1598015 #44 - they do have guns, they can legally rob you (asset forfeiture). #44 – they do have guns, they can legally rob you (asset forfeiture).

]]> By: The Monster's Lawyer http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1598006 The Monster's Lawyer Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:01:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1598006 #49 - Sounds like an educational experience to me. #49 – Sounds like an educational experience to me.

]]> By: ramuno http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1597989 ramuno Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:29:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597989 Yep, white car..totally different model is the problem. Happened to me at 4 in the afternoon when I was driving my daughter to a girl scout meeting. Me with a gun to my head and my daughter scared to death with both of ours on the hot hood...should they have tasered her? Yep, white car..totally different model is the problem. Happened to me at 4 in the afternoon when I was driving my daughter to a girl scout meeting. Me with a gun to my head and my daughter scared to death with both of ours on the hot hood…should they have tasered her?

]]> By: jccalhoun http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1597970 jccalhoun Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:34:53 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597970 <i>Most if not all of these posters wouldn’t think of going into an inner city community at night. </i> and that is relevant because? Is there any indication where in Minneapolis this was? Why do you assume it was in the inner city? <i>This was the safest way to get the suspect cuffed and into the cruiser. The danger is in close proximity. A sudden move might have resulted in a sidearm draw and a shooting. There are a lot of dead cops shot with their own weapon.</i> So you are saying that any time a police officer is going to handcuff someone they should use a tazer on them first just in case? <i>These whole damn country has turned into knee jerk reactionist to snippets of video and sound bites. Get the facts first. I have a feeling you may not want this suspect over for dinner.</i> If you don't need facts to make up your mind why should we need facts to make up ours? It amazes me how some people will defend people just because they have a uniform. You could find a video of a police officer saying to the camera, "I'm going to use the tazer on the next person that walks by" and then proceeds to taze a random stranger and someone would post, "that person had it coming." My best friend from high school is a city cop and I have ridden along with him and he says tazers are stupid because they make police use that rather than other methods that they have used for years and years before they had tazers. Most if not all of these posters wouldn’t think of going into an inner city community at night.
and that is relevant because? Is there any indication where in Minneapolis this was? Why do you assume it was in the inner city?

This was the safest way to get the suspect cuffed and into the cruiser. The danger is in close proximity. A sudden move might have resulted in a sidearm draw and a shooting. There are a lot of dead cops shot with their own weapon.
So you are saying that any time a police officer is going to handcuff someone they should use a tazer on them first just in case?

These whole damn country has turned into knee jerk reactionist to snippets of video and sound bites. Get the facts first. I have a feeling you may not want this suspect over for dinner.
If you don’t need facts to make up your mind why should we need facts to make up ours?

It amazes me how some people will defend people just because they have a uniform. You could find a video of a police officer saying to the camera, “I’m going to use the tazer on the next person that walks by” and then proceeds to taze a random stranger and someone would post, “that person had it coming.”

My best friend from high school is a city cop and I have ridden along with him and he says tazers are stupid because they make police use that rather than other methods that they have used for years and years before they had tazers.

]]> By: RTaylor http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1597933 RTaylor Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:16:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597933 Most if not all of these posters wouldn't think of going into an inner city community at night. There are some bad assed dudes out there that don't play by your rules. This was the safest way to get the suspect cuffed and into the cruiser. The danger is in close proximity. A sudden move might have resulted in a sidearm draw and a shooting. There are a lot of dead cops shot with their own weapon. These whole damn country has turned into knee jerk reactionist to snippets of video and sound bites. Get the facts first. I have a feeling you may not want this suspect over for dinner. Most if not all of these posters wouldn’t think of going into an inner city community at night. There are some bad assed dudes out there that don’t play by your rules. This was the safest way to get the suspect cuffed and into the cruiser. The danger is in close proximity. A sudden move might have resulted in a sidearm draw and a shooting. There are a lot of dead cops shot with their own weapon. These whole damn country has turned into knee jerk reactionist to snippets of video and sound bites. Get the facts first. I have a feeling you may not want this suspect over for dinner.

]]> By: The Judge http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1597925 The Judge Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:42:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597925 1st: #8 Cornholer is racist as well as obviously (from other posts as well) one of the stupidest, low-life scumbags that reads this blog. 2nd: Cops are pure scum. 3rd: See number 1 1st: #8 Cornholer is racist as well as obviously (from other posts as well) one of the stupidest, low-life scumbags that reads this blog.

2nd: Cops are pure scum.

3rd: See number 1

]]> By: badtimes http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1597919 badtimes Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:06:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597919 #21- as several others have pointed out, just being pulled over makes you guilty of nothing, and does not make you 'more or less a crook.' It will be interesting to see what led up to this- what's been released so far is pretty damning. #21- as several others have pointed out, just being pulled over makes you guilty of nothing, and does not make you ‘more or less a crook.’
It will be interesting to see what led up to this- what’s been released so far is pretty damning.

]]> By: The Monster's Lawyer http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1597912 The Monster's Lawyer Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:42:01 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597912 #43 omniman - Sounds strikingly similar to how you are supposed to act when being robbed at gun point. Just give them what they want and let the law handle it. #43 omniman – Sounds strikingly similar to how you are supposed to act when being robbed at gun point. Just give them what they want and let the law handle it.

]]> By: omnicbex http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1597856 omnicbex Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:06:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597856 The reality is that cops are human beings with lethal weapons weather they are protecting society and the persons within it or not. These videos and others like it are evidence of that. The best advice is to know your rights in dealing with the police. You don't have to tell them anything you don't want to You don't have to let them search you, your car, or your house without probable cause or a warrant. Just say 'no' even if they make threats to inconvenience you. If they search anyway just be calm and fight it legally after the fact. Do not engage in violence or resistance against an officer unless they threaten your life or you have another VERY GOOD reason as this is a personal decision made at your own grave risk. (Unfortunately the risk doesn't go both ways very well) Tazers are a gray area in 'Life Threatening' as people have been killed by them. Don't give them an excuse to use a Tazer and if they do, fight it legally. Other than that, be calm and courteous. Most officers are nice people or at least fair people. Just be aware that some are not, especially in the heat of the moment. The reality is that cops are human beings with lethal weapons weather they are protecting society and the persons within it or not. These videos and others like it are evidence of that. The best advice is to know your rights in dealing with the police. You don’t have to tell them anything you don’t want to You don’t have to let them search you, your car, or your house without probable cause or a warrant. Just say ‘no’ even if they make threats to inconvenience you. If they search anyway just be calm and fight it legally after the fact. Do not engage in violence or resistance against an officer unless they threaten your life or you have another VERY GOOD reason as this is a personal decision made at your own grave risk. (Unfortunately the risk doesn’t go both ways very well) Tazers are a gray area in ‘Life Threatening’ as people have been killed by them. Don’t give them an excuse to use a Tazer and if they do, fight it legally. Other than that, be calm and courteous. Most officers are nice people or at least fair people. Just be aware that some are not, especially in the heat of the moment.

]]> By: reader2 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1597843 reader2 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:35:19 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597843 on second thought he should ask the court as a punishment for the cop to be able to tase the cop back see how he or she likes it than put the video on youtube..... on second thought he should ask the court as a punishment for the cop to be able to tase the cop back see how he or she likes it than put the video on youtube…..

]]> By: reader1 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-3/#comment-1597842 reader1 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:28:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597842 That was so disturbing. Where is my torch and pitchfork ? has anyone seen it ? That was so disturbing.
Where is my torch and pitchfork ? has anyone seen it ?

]]> By: whimps http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-1597839 whimps Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:53:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597839 you're all actually idiots...I'm sure he was just driving a few miles over the speed limit and calmly pulled over, exited the car and then the asshole cop just nailed him for fun... ride one night with a cop.... the easiest way to avoid is stop when they say stop.... Everyone here want to be a "tough guy" ....you watch too much tv. Leave your bedroom in your moms basement already. you’re all actually idiots…I’m sure he was just driving a few miles over the speed limit and calmly pulled over, exited the car and then the asshole cop just nailed him for fun…

ride one night with a cop…. the easiest way to avoid is stop when they say stop….

Everyone here want to be a “tough guy” ….you watch too much tv.

Leave your bedroom in your moms basement already.

]]> By: ECD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-1597833 ECD Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:46:09 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597833 @#29 That's what I meant. Fight this with who you elect (actually vote!), write your city councilman, governor, and congressmen, fight things out in court, and fight things with mindshare! No more giving cops carte blanch. No more supporting disastrous wars on drugs. No more supporting onerous laws and ridiculous minimum sentences. @#29 That’s what I meant.

Fight this with who you elect (actually vote!), write your city councilman, governor, and congressmen, fight things out in court, and fight things with mindshare! No more giving cops carte blanch. No more supporting disastrous wars on drugs. No more supporting onerous laws and ridiculous minimum sentences.

]]> By: Marc http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/fun-with-tasers-brave-officer-tasers-violently-resisting-offender/comment-page-2/#comment-1597831 Marc Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:37:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=61932#comment-1597831 Fucking Pigs. I mean Cops. Fucking Pigs. I mean Cops.

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