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		<title>By: Mac Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/sesame-street-mocks-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-1598479</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 - Okay, so explain &quot;satire&quot; to a 3-year old.  Good luck with that.

Even the Ombudsman for Sesame Street criticized the producers for letting this air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 &#8211; Okay, so explain &#8220;satire&#8221; to a 3-year old.  Good luck with that.</p>
<p>Even the Ombudsman for Sesame Street criticized the producers for letting this air.</p>
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		<title>By: riggscm</title>
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		<dc:creator>riggscm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conservatives have done a great job of playing the martyr every time that anyone says the slightest criticism of them, or one of their media outlets.
Look people, are you really going to get so bent out of shape about a TV show for KIDS! Are you afraid that some how the liberals have invented some sort of mind control device that keeps children from growing up and forming their own opinions?  Do you really think that children, the people that actually watch Sesame Street, know what Fox News is, or for that matter CNN?  They might know they are TV stations but I seriously doubt that a skit that these kids see will some how effect their voting behavior in future.  
If those of you that have taken the time to attack PBS, Sesame Street, and free thought in general, spent time with your kids, watched TV with them, and were a active influence in their development toward adulthood - I would say that you have nothing to worry about.
For those of you that choose to let TV raise your children... please invest in contraception for your child, and setup a trust fund to pay off all the mental issues they will be dealing with over the course of their lives.

Remember garbage in, garbage out.  Remember that when you are watching Glen Beck, or Bill Maher.  Both are meant to amuse and provoke and entertain.

Finally, if Sesame Street gets you more involved in your child&#039;s life, then &quot;yay sesame street&quot;.  If you are still pissed, then I dare you to watch the Disney Channel with your kids... tons of sexual situations, suggestive themes, racial stereotypes, ageism, sexism and on and on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conservatives have done a great job of playing the martyr every time that anyone says the slightest criticism of them, or one of their media outlets.<br />
Look people, are you really going to get so bent out of shape about a TV show for KIDS! Are you afraid that some how the liberals have invented some sort of mind control device that keeps children from growing up and forming their own opinions?  Do you really think that children, the people that actually watch Sesame Street, know what Fox News is, or for that matter CNN?  They might know they are TV stations but I seriously doubt that a skit that these kids see will some how effect their voting behavior in future.<br />
If those of you that have taken the time to attack PBS, Sesame Street, and free thought in general, spent time with your kids, watched TV with them, and were a active influence in their development toward adulthood &#8211; I would say that you have nothing to worry about.<br />
For those of you that choose to let TV raise your children&#8230; please invest in contraception for your child, and setup a trust fund to pay off all the mental issues they will be dealing with over the course of their lives.</p>
<p>Remember garbage in, garbage out.  Remember that when you are watching Glen Beck, or Bill Maher.  Both are meant to amuse and provoke and entertain.</p>
<p>Finally, if Sesame Street gets you more involved in your child&#8217;s life, then &#8220;yay sesame street&#8221;.  If you are still pissed, then I dare you to watch the Disney Channel with your kids&#8230; tons of sexual situations, suggestive themes, racial stereotypes, ageism, sexism and on and on.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/sesame-street-mocks-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-1598131</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 gal416,

If your grandkids love anime, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superbook&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;they&#039;ll probably like this&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 gal416,</p>
<p>If your grandkids love anime, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superbook" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">they&#8217;ll probably like this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: gal416</title>
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		<dc:creator>gal416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 Angel H. Wong
After I posted my comment I realized i had forgotten Veggie Tales. I think it is a very good children&#039;s show and have watched it with my grandchildren. Although I can&#039;t tell their political swing by watching it. I am a born again evangelical Christian and I am not conservative nor am I liberal. My only affiliation is Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 Angel H. Wong<br />
After I posted my comment I realized i had forgotten Veggie Tales. I think it is a very good children&#8217;s show and have watched it with my grandchildren. Although I can&#8217;t tell their political swing by watching it. I am a born again evangelical Christian and I am not conservative nor am I liberal. My only affiliation is Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/04/sesame-street-mocks-fox/comment-page-1/#comment-1598096</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, typical conservative bitching. They act like chimps throwing their feces at everyone but when someone fights back they go Rihanna Mugshot.

What were you idiots were expecting from a show conceived in the 60s?

The next thing they&#039;re going to say is that it&#039;s a socialist show because it teaches kids to read and cound FOR FREE.

# 23 gal416,

&quot;What popular children’s show have conservatives come up with?&quot;

They came with the only thing they couldn&#039;t deem as satanic in any ways: The Veggietales movie and tv series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, typical conservative bitching. They act like chimps throwing their feces at everyone but when someone fights back they go Rihanna Mugshot.</p>
<p>What were you idiots were expecting from a show conceived in the 60s?</p>
<p>The next thing they&#8217;re going to say is that it&#8217;s a socialist show because it teaches kids to read and cound FOR FREE.</p>
<p># 23 gal416,</p>
<p>&#8220;What popular children’s show have conservatives come up with?&#8221;</p>
<p>They came with the only thing they couldn&#8217;t deem as satanic in any ways: The Veggietales movie and tv series.</p>
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		<title>By: gal416</title>
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		<dc:creator>gal416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What popular children&#039;s show have conservatives come up with? Although when i was a kid I thought Industry on Parade was fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What popular children&#8217;s show have conservatives come up with? Although when i was a kid I thought Industry on Parade was fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20, Mr. Baggins,

Quite true sir. Your post did remind me of how the right wing nuts like to toss crap around and then whine like little babies if some comes back to them.

The best example is our very own big &lt;strike&gt;fucking asshole&lt;/strike&gt; whiner Alphie. Regardless of the amount of slander and lies he tosses out there, he cried because someone said something nasty about him. Typical right wing nut method.

Rush Limbaugh wanted drug addicts sent to jail for long terms of hard time until it was discovered he had his own stash and habit.

Bill O&#039;Rielly sends his camera crews out to stalk and then ambush people. Then cries the blues when a cameraman captures him.

Chris Wallace constantly interrupts his guests when they make a point contrary to his (and FOX) position. Then he wails like a wounded woose when Bill Clinton called him on it.

The list continues but I think that should get the message across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20, Mr. Baggins,</p>
<p>Quite true sir. Your post did remind me of how the right wing nuts like to toss crap around and then whine like little babies if some comes back to them.</p>
<p>The best example is our very own big <strike>fucking asshole</strike> whiner Alphie. Regardless of the amount of slander and lies he tosses out there, he cried because someone said something nasty about him. Typical right wing nut method.</p>
<p>Rush Limbaugh wanted drug addicts sent to jail for long terms of hard time until it was discovered he had his own stash and habit.</p>
<p>Bill O&#8217;Rielly sends his camera crews out to stalk and then ambush people. Then cries the blues when a cameraman captures him.</p>
<p>Chris Wallace constantly interrupts his guests when they make a point contrary to his (and FOX) position. Then he wails like a wounded woose when Bill Clinton called him on it.</p>
<p>The list continues but I think that should get the message across.</p>
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		<title>By: The0ne</title>
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		<dc:creator>The0ne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even I have to agree with most people here. I grew up with Sesame Street and this bit is entirely not appropriate. Leave our kids alone dumbass adults!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even I have to agree with most people here. I grew up with Sesame Street and this bit is entirely not appropriate. Leave our kids alone dumbass adults!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Olo Baggins of Bywater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olo Baggins of Bywater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MacGuy, and my point is: so what? It&#039;s satire. That&#039;s what Oscar is. A grouchy, messy, whiny monster who hates everything. Go through all his appearances over the last 38 years and you&#039;ll find hundreds of similar topical references. &lt;i&gt;Oscar&#039;s job is to hate everything. That what he is.&lt;/i&gt; 

This is a new low for the goofs who think this means anything. The right is enjoying its persecution complex far, far too much these last few months. 

(IMO the funny part is that Caroll Spinney is right, which is probably why you guys are freaking out.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacGuy, and my point is: so what? It&#8217;s satire. That&#8217;s what Oscar is. A grouchy, messy, whiny monster who hates everything. Go through all his appearances over the last 38 years and you&#8217;ll find hundreds of similar topical references. <i>Oscar&#8217;s job is to hate everything. That what he is.</i> </p>
<p>This is a new low for the goofs who think this means anything. The right is enjoying its persecution complex far, far too much these last few months. </p>
<p>(IMO the funny part is that Caroll Spinney is right, which is probably why you guys are freaking out.)</p>
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		<title>By: LDA</title>
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		<dc:creator>LDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 stopher2475

You confuse humour with anger.

A consistent (non-hypocritical) observer would disagree with both (or neither). That is disgraceful (thanks for bringing it to my attention). 

What do you think of the Obama the Great Leader versions?

P.S. Maybe you have come to the party late and do not know that some people are consistent in their approach to the fake left / right (puppet) farce. Maybe you will be more discerning next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 stopher2475</p>
<p>You confuse humour with anger.</p>
<p>A consistent (non-hypocritical) observer would disagree with both (or neither). That is disgraceful (thanks for bringing it to my attention). </p>
<p>What do you think of the Obama the Great Leader versions?</p>
<p>P.S. Maybe you have come to the party late and do not know that some people are consistent in their approach to the fake left / right (puppet) farce. Maybe you will be more discerning next time.</p>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
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		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11 came closest

seems to me they trashed Royalty &amp; CNN even more by &quot;mistaking&quot; the &quot;GNN reporter&quot; for paparazzi. (the &quot;GNN&quot; logo on the mic is easily mistaken for CNN) 

The Power of Suggestion (the vid title) is a wonderful (and very powerful) thing.

What most of you #@!$#@ fail to understand is that PBS, CNN and FOX are programming your kids for brand loyalty AND [flawed] conflict resolution (via spite in this case) -when they are barely out of the cradle. (and their brains perfect balls of jello just waiting to be &quot;set&quot;---by your TV programming)

They will own your kids mind by the time they are 7. -and blame any shortcomings in their &quot;flawed programming&quot; on &quot;your bad parenting&quot;

THAT is what you should be bickering about. 

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(Which judging by current trends, means (of course) you will be introduced to the hell hole known as CPS in short order...whisking both you and your kid off to the &quot;proper&quot; authorities for re-education..yada yada..)

The whole &quot;Fox is the ebil bad guy&quot; debate is pointless. -your just executing your programming

The name (and idea) of Fox is programmed into your subconscious from the days of yor when royalty &quot;released the hounds&quot; for the fox hunt.

So today Fox news retains it&#039;s namesake role as &quot;the hunted&quot; and &quot;you all&quot; and the media have assumed the role of the dogs.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED, 

except the fact that they got you to &quot;love your programming&quot;

Wake Up

Turn off your TV, -your all being played like a fiddle.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11 came closest</p>
<p>seems to me they trashed Royalty &amp; CNN even more by &#8220;mistaking&#8221; the &#8220;GNN reporter&#8221; for paparazzi. (the &#8220;GNN&#8221; logo on the mic is easily mistaken for CNN) </p>
<p>The Power of Suggestion (the vid title) is a wonderful (and very powerful) thing.</p>
<p>What most of you #@!$#@ fail to understand is that PBS, CNN and FOX are programming your kids for brand loyalty AND [flawed] conflict resolution (via spite in this case) -when they are barely out of the cradle. (and their brains perfect balls of jello just waiting to be &#8220;set&#8221;&#8212;by your TV programming)</p>
<p>They will own your kids mind by the time they are 7. -and blame any shortcomings in their &#8220;flawed programming&#8221; on &#8220;your bad parenting&#8221;</p>
<p>THAT is what you should be bickering about. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
(Which judging by current trends, means (of course) you will be introduced to the hell hole known as CPS in short order&#8230;whisking both you and your kid off to the &#8220;proper&#8221; authorities for re-education..yada yada..)</p>
<p>The whole &#8220;Fox is the ebil bad guy&#8221; debate is pointless. -your just executing your programming</p>
<p>The name (and idea) of Fox is programmed into your subconscious from the days of yor when royalty &#8220;released the hounds&#8221; for the fox hunt.</p>
<p>So today Fox news retains it&#8217;s namesake role as &#8220;the hunted&#8221; and &#8220;you all&#8221; and the media have assumed the role of the dogs.</p>
<p>NOTHING HAS CHANGED, </p>
<p>except the fact that they got you to &#8220;love your programming&#8221;</p>
<p>Wake Up</p>
<p>Turn off your TV, -your all being played like a fiddle.</p>
<p>-s</p>
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		<title>By: stopher2475</title>
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		<dc:creator>stopher2475</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 &amp; #14
I understand your anger because school kids never sang a song for Bush.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/flashback-students-sang-b_n_300372.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oh wait. They did.&lt;/a&gt;

“Our country’s stood beside us 
People have sent us aid. 
Katrina could not stop us, our hopes will never fade. 
Congress, Bush and FEMA 
People across our land 
Together have come to rebuild us and we join them hand-in-hand!” 

Sounds like something you&#039;d hear in North Korea. New Orleans kids singing for Bush and FEMA is like a rape victim having to thank their rapist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 &amp; #14<br />
I understand your anger because school kids never sang a song for Bush.<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/flashback-students-sang-b_n_300372.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Oh wait. They did.</a></p>
<p>“Our country’s stood beside us<br />
People have sent us aid.<br />
Katrina could not stop us, our hopes will never fade.<br />
Congress, Bush and FEMA<br />
People across our land<br />
Together have come to rebuild us and we join them hand-in-hand!” </p>
<p>Sounds like something you&#8217;d hear in North Korea. New Orleans kids singing for Bush and FEMA is like a rape victim having to thank their rapist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 - Sorry, Olo, but this is an obvious reference to Fox News, and subliminally suggesting this association between &quot;Pox News&quot; being trashy is an all-time low for liberals.

Yes, liberals.  Not democrats, but liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 &#8211; Sorry, Olo, but this is an obvious reference to Fox News, and subliminally suggesting this association between &#8220;Pox News&#8221; being trashy is an all-time low for liberals.</p>
<p>Yes, liberals.  Not democrats, but liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Olo Baggins of Bywater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olo Baggins of Bywater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sesame Street target audience: pre-schoolers. 

So just how many of them would ever notice this, and have a clue what it meant? I&#039;m going out on a limb to say it&#039;s remarkably close to zero. Also note that most of their skits are satire. Oscar and &quot;trashy&quot; news? &lt;i&gt;Naturally &lt;/i&gt; he&#039;d say that, the entire world is trashy to Oscar. 

This is nothing, but the right-wing nutballs need to be persecuted, and this makes a handy story. No doubt it will soon become part of the lore they use to demonstrate how public money is used to denigrate a political position. Boy, it was sooooo effective it only took two years for anyone to find it. ...rolling my eyes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sesame Street target audience: pre-schoolers. </p>
<p>So just how many of them would ever notice this, and have a clue what it meant? I&#8217;m going out on a limb to say it&#8217;s remarkably close to zero. Also note that most of their skits are satire. Oscar and &#8220;trashy&#8221; news? <i>Naturally </i> he&#8217;d say that, the entire world is trashy to Oscar. </p>
<p>This is nothing, but the right-wing nutballs need to be persecuted, and this makes a handy story. No doubt it will soon become part of the lore they use to demonstrate how public money is used to denigrate a political position. Boy, it was sooooo effective it only took two years for anyone to find it. &#8230;rolling my eyes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LDA</title>
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		<dc:creator>LDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 LotsaLuck

He said that all must lend a hand, to make this country strong again Mmm, mmm, mm! Barack Hussein Obama.</description>
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<p>He said that all must lend a hand, to make this country strong again Mmm, mmm, mm! Barack Hussein Obama.</p>
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