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	<title>Comments on: Should ISPs Be Liable For What Passes Through Their Systems?</title>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/05/should-isps-be-liable-for-what-passes-through-their-systems/comment-page-2/#comment-1598309</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27, doill,

You make a good, if inaccurate point. 

Anyone can complain about something they know nothing about. Your posting history bears that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27, doill,</p>
<p>You make a good, if inaccurate point. </p>
<p>Anyone can complain about something they know nothing about. Your posting history bears that out.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress can pass laws even when it knows nothing about what it is supposed to be controlling. Every bill passed this year proves it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress can pass laws even when it knows nothing about what it is supposed to be controlling. Every bill passed this year proves it.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/05/should-isps-be-liable-for-what-passes-through-their-systems/comment-page-2/#comment-1598155</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24,25,
YES THEY COULD HAVE FIXED the way EMAIL is handled and routed in the net to make SPAM difficult..

This article is about FORCING the ISP to monitor your Downloads and location, so that you DONT download MOVIES/MUSIC/PORN, WHICH is almost impossible.  Unless you want someone to SIT and decrypt EVERY BIT of every picture and DL, to verify its not against the law.  And dont forget about monitoring EACH person and logging EVERY site you hit on the net.
The paper work alone would be astounding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24,25,<br />
YES THEY COULD HAVE FIXED the way EMAIL is handled and routed in the net to make SPAM difficult..</p>
<p>This article is about FORCING the ISP to monitor your Downloads and location, so that you DONT download MOVIES/MUSIC/PORN, WHICH is almost impossible.  Unless you want someone to SIT and decrypt EVERY BIT of every picture and DL, to verify its not against the law.  And dont forget about monitoring EACH person and logging EVERY site you hit on the net.<br />
The paper work alone would be astounding.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24: true, but this isn&#039;t about spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24: true, but this isn&#8217;t about spam.</p>
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		<title>By: N orman Speight</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/05/should-isps-be-liable-for-what-passes-through-their-systems/comment-page-2/#comment-1598040</link>
		<dc:creator>N orman Speight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANY web user can download anti-spam - hell, it&#039;s even plugged on Dvorak.blog.
So.  Why on earth don&#039;t ISPs use anti-spam (at source) to kill all this crap that annoys?
Spam could have been stopped YEARS AGO!.  But, they still won&#039;t do anything to kill it.
I know I&#039;m dim, but why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANY web user can download anti-spam &#8211; hell, it&#8217;s even plugged on Dvorak.blog.<br />
So.  Why on earth don&#8217;t ISPs use anti-spam (at source) to kill all this crap that annoys?<br />
Spam could have been stopped YEARS AGO!.  But, they still won&#8217;t do anything to kill it.<br />
I know I&#8217;m dim, but why?</p>
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		<title>By: jescott418</title>
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		<dc:creator>jescott418</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No they are only a bridge to provide the content. ISP&#039;s should not be forced to be the moderator. As with any service like the elctric company. Should they tell you what type of bulbs to use or when to turn your lights on? Should the phone companies monitor and bleep out foul language? Two places content can be controlled. From the source and at the receiver. These are easily done and very effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No they are only a bridge to provide the content. ISP&#8217;s should not be forced to be the moderator. As with any service like the elctric company. Should they tell you what type of bulbs to use or when to turn your lights on? Should the phone companies monitor and bleep out foul language? Two places content can be controlled. From the source and at the receiver. These are easily done and very effective.</p>
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		<title>By: SparkyOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>SparkyOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not until they can pass materiel goods via 0&#039;s and 1&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not until they can pass materiel goods via 0&#8242;s and 1&#8242;s</p>
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		<title>By: Postman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Postman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18

I tried remaining honest like you.  Now I just steal everything that is not easier to get free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18</p>
<p>I tried remaining honest like you.  Now I just steal everything that is not easier to get free.</p>
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		<title>By: Toxic Asshead</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/05/should-isps-be-liable-for-what-passes-through-their-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1598017</link>
		<dc:creator>Toxic Asshead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya still don&#039;t think this administration is trying to take control of everything?  Every direction you look....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya still don&#8217;t think this administration is trying to take control of everything?  Every direction you look&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/05/should-isps-be-liable-for-what-passes-through-their-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1598016</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Zerox?  

SUE THEM INTO THE STONE AGE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Zerox?  </p>
<p>SUE THEM INTO THE STONE AGE!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realistically speaking, the RIAA is the greater of the two evil entities.  Which is odd, considering the fact that production of their entertainment venue carries several orders of magnitude lower costs.  

I don&#039;t buy movies anymore.  I&#039;m finding it increasingly hard to find three movies a WEEK to rent via Netflix, and I rarely have an itch to own any of them.

I rarely buy music anymore, and when I do, it&#039;s by surfing the clearance CD bins at Half Price Books.  I won&#039;t buy low bitrate, DRM-infected music online because one corrupted key or application (or hard drive or operating system or.....this fault tree gets pretty big), and POOF.  If Garth &quot;Beelzebub&quot; Brooks ever gets his wish, I just won&#039;t buy any music anymore.  there are plenty of free-to-me ways of listening to music.

And God forbid we ever remember that this is for the purposes of entertainment.  Those organizations seem to be under the impression that we live and work to entertain ourselves, and not that we use entertainment to take the edge off living and working, to make it a little more bearable every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realistically speaking, the RIAA is the greater of the two evil entities.  Which is odd, considering the fact that production of their entertainment venue carries several orders of magnitude lower costs.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy movies anymore.  I&#8217;m finding it increasingly hard to find three movies a WEEK to rent via Netflix, and I rarely have an itch to own any of them.</p>
<p>I rarely buy music anymore, and when I do, it&#8217;s by surfing the clearance CD bins at Half Price Books.  I won&#8217;t buy low bitrate, DRM-infected music online because one corrupted key or application (or hard drive or operating system or&#8230;..this fault tree gets pretty big), and POOF.  If Garth &#8220;Beelzebub&#8221; Brooks ever gets his wish, I just won&#8217;t buy any music anymore.  there are plenty of free-to-me ways of listening to music.</p>
<p>And God forbid we ever remember that this is for the purposes of entertainment.  Those organizations seem to be under the impression that we live and work to entertain ourselves, and not that we use entertainment to take the edge off living and working, to make it a little more bearable every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought they were already doing that in SF at AT&amp;T....but I guess that is old news and no one remembers the push for ALL COMMUNICATIONS to be Monitored for Enemies of the &#039;State&#039;.
Nothing has changed since.,..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought they were already doing that in SF at AT&amp;T&#8230;.but I guess that is old news and no one remembers the push for ALL COMMUNICATIONS to be Monitored for Enemies of the &#8216;State&#8217;.<br />
Nothing has changed since.,..</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone took too many stupid pills to come up with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone took too many stupid pills to come up with this.</p>
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		<title>By: The Future called and</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/05/should-isps-be-liable-for-what-passes-through-their-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1597996</link>
		<dc:creator>The Future called and</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hack law by a hack politician. With all do respect to our older citizens, frankly these old guys entrenched in their way of thinking are simply getting in the way of true progress. 

I would hazard a guess that congressman Paul Kanjorski, the bills author, has monthly trouble with his email attachments and lacks any basic  knowledge of network technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hack law by a hack politician. With all do respect to our older citizens, frankly these old guys entrenched in their way of thinking are simply getting in the way of true progress. </p>
<p>I would hazard a guess that congressman Paul Kanjorski, the bills author, has monthly trouble with his email attachments and lacks any basic  knowledge of network technology.</p>
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		<title>By: bac</title>
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		<dc:creator>bac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably shouldn&#039;t leave out the paper industry.

The MPAA and RIAA should lock up all of their content so that no one can steal it.  May be place it inside of old gold mines with highly trained security guards patrolling the outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably shouldn&#8217;t leave out the paper industry.</p>
<p>The MPAA and RIAA should lock up all of their content so that no one can steal it.  May be place it inside of old gold mines with highly trained security guards patrolling the outside.</p>
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