Pic of the Day. Only in America

Published on November 6th, 2009

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# 1 Mike Wills said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:11 am

What is wrong with that? Minnesota has a concealed handgun law. You can carry a concealed weapon, but if a place of business doesn’t want guns, they can post a sign much like this.

# 2 RSweeney said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:12 am

I am sure that any armed criminal terrorist seeking to enter will be deterred by this strongly worded statement.

Anyone who would obey this sign is not a problem.

# 3 Rufus said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:18 am

Academic administrators are paranoid of bogeymen because they cannot think for themselves. Their paranoia causes them to shit on innocent people er… It’s politically correct profiling.

Watch the film “U Indoctrinate”, it accurately shows the menacing-sheep mentality that pervades academia.

# 4 cornholer said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:19 am

That would scare the shit out of any crazed nut that planned on attacking this place.

# 5 reader1 said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:41 am

Who is going to stop the guy that walks in with a gun ?

# 6 tcc3 said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:48 am

“Please refrain from shooting up the place.”

# 7 RealitasMordet said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:49 am

“Anyone who would obey this sign is not a problem.”

By themselves, no. Add an armed robber, and then you’ve got the gunfight at the O.K. Corral. Very bad for the artwork (and bystanders).

# 8 Christopher Burg said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:54 am

As a citizen of Minnesota as well as a carry permit holder I can say those signs are funny.

Thankfully here in Minnesota there are very specific instructions describing what a facility must do to “ban” firearms. A compliant sign must be posted at EVERY entrance. The Minneapolis Institute of Arts does not have a sign at every entrance and therefore legally do not comply with the law. If an employee informs you directly (i.e. you carry in there and they see your gun) that is considered notice though.

For violating one of those signs (or employee notice) you are legally obligated to leave. If you refuse to leave your first offense ends up being a fine of no more than $25.00 and you do not forfeit your permit or gun.

What those signs really mean to say is “There is a much less likely chance of a law abiding citizen carry a gun in here. If you are planning to rob this place or commit another criminal act you are more than welcome to try. Do note there is no guarantee there is nobody legally carrying in here though.”

Overall I really like the carry laws in my state.

# 9 tdmoose said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:57 am

Part of the conceal/carry law in Minnesota is that if you don’t want people bringing in guns, you have to post a sign with those exact words. Absence of a sign is considered permission. Here is an explanation of this requirement. Note that the size and typeface is spelled out pretty explicitly.

# 10 brm said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:03 am

“The Institute bans crimes on these premises.”

# 11 Tim said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:08 am

As stated earlier, having a gun is not a crime, unless the business has it posted.

You really wouldn’t have to look that hard to find a better “Pic of the Day”.

# 12 Dallas said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:12 am

An unnecessary sign.

Republicans don’t visit Art institutions.

# 13 masterb said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:19 am

at least no one is attacking them

# 14 EW said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:22 am

you’d have to be a pretty scared individual to need a weapon on yourself in public.

# 15 brm said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:31 am

#13:

Spoken by someone who doesn’t have to walk home from work at night.

Ever get mugged? It sucks.

# 16 Angel H. Wong said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:37 am

Duh, have anyone seen how full of drama artists can be? It’s not to protect the artists from the people but to protect the people from the artists.

# 17 StoopidFlanders said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:40 am

14. The criminals were forced by society to mug you. You see, their welfare checks were not large enough to cover their drug habit, because you did not elect democrats whom would have given them a bigger handout. So please understand that it is all your fault and that the mugger is the victim here. Shame on you for having amassed more wealth than the criminal. We need to be exactly the same, so the criminal is entitled to take money from your wallet. The idea of using a weapon to defend yourself and keep the mugger from acquiring what is owed to him is just silly.

# 18 The0ne said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:46 am

Looks photoshop-ed to me. Extremely white background and extremely clear and neat text

# 19 Mr. Fusion said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:49 am

#14, brm,

Spoken like a typical Hummer owner that just saw his precious little beauty repossessed.

It must suck to be you.

# 20 Phydeau said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 am

#13 Shhhh EW, that’s their dirty little secret they’d rather people not know. Carrying a gun makes them feel more like a man.

# 21 Brian said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:55 am

#8 Exactly

#’s 11, 18, 19 idiots

# 22 Bob said, on November 6th, 2009 at 10:56 am

I remember a Chris Rock joke, “Don’t go to parties with metal detectors, sure you feel safe inside, but everyone outside knows you don’t have a gun now.”

# 23 brm said, on November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 am

#18:

“Spoken like a typical Hummer owner that just saw his precious little beauty repossessed.”

lol, wut?

I’m a student, and I’m saving up some money to make repairs to my fully-paid-with-cash car.

# 24 Mr Diesel said, on November 6th, 2009 at 11:20 am

I fully obey the signs that are posted like that at any business. I just don’t go inside.

# 25 BryanP said, on November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 am

I carry legally where I can. I don’t do business with institutions that post no-carry signs. And if all else fails, “concealed means concealed.”

Of course, my concealed firearm must be defective. I’ve been carrying for quite some time and it’s never jumped out and shot anyone. No blood running in my streets either. Weird.

# 26 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, on November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 am

I agree, most countries use better grammar for signs written in their native language.

# 27 The Monster's Lawyer said, on November 6th, 2009 at 11:35 am

#25 – It’s just a matter of time before you snap and go postal on everyone. Or maybe that nagging itch of what it would be like to shoot someone takes over. Or, maybe you just need to test it out to make sure it’s still working. Guns don’t kill people. People with guns kill people.

# 28 Brian said, on November 6th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

# 27
That was either sarcasm and we all know that does not work in print or the stupidest thing ever said in history. A new record for sure.

# 29 spinnyd said, on November 6th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

what that sign really says is ” there are no armed citizens in here, please feel free to use it as a free-fire zone”

# 30 Phydeau said, on November 6th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

It’s useless to try to reason with gun nuts. We’ve all seen the statistics, gun nuts and non-gun nuts alike, that guns are more likely to be turned on the gun owners themselves. Whether it be accidental, suicide, or just shooting their teenage son sneaking in after a late night thinking he’s an intruder, guns are more likely to harm the owners than any bad guys.

And each one of those people who suffered those tragedies said, just like our gun nuts here are saying now, “That will never happen to me.”

*Shrug* What can you do? It’s worth the risk to them, just like someone who smokes around their children. It increases the risk to them and their children, but it’s a free country.

And frankly, from talking to a few myself, I think carrying a gun gives them such a woody that they’d be extra careful not to do anything to screw up and lose their carry permits. I’d have to see a lot of incidents of legal carriers shooting people to make it worthwhile to ban it, and I haven’t seen that yet.

# 31 Christopher Burg said, on November 6th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

#30

Yes obviously more than 1.5 million people have their guns turned against them. Because 1.5 million is the number of guns use in self defense according to this study by the National Institute of Justice (which was funded by the U.S. Department of Justice):

http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf

So want to present your neutral (actually the U.S. DoJ is more against guns then for them) source evidence showing your point?

# 32 The Monster's Lawyer said, on November 6th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

#30 Fido – You are right of course. But it’s more fun to poke them with a stick and watch ‘em swarm around.

# 33 gal416 said, on November 6th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

When guns are outlawed, only people with guns are outlaws. ha

# 34 Expression Web said, on November 6th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Guns are art.

# 35 Phydeau said, on November 6th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

#31 Eh… especially now after Obama got elected, the wingnuts are mad enough for me, no extra provocation necessary.

# 36 Hawkeye said, on November 6th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

Would be funnier if it had some bullet holes in it.

# 37 MikeN said, on November 6th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

>guns are more likely to harm the owners than any bad guys.

You are more likely to die in the hospital than outside of one. So clearly you should not go the hospital.

I hear that having a parachute makes one more likely to die. Perhaps I’ll just skip the parachute when I go skydiving.

# 38 Cephus said, on November 6th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

It’s more likely that the signs are put up to control legal liability by the facility. If some lunatic goes in and shoots up the place, at least they can fall back on “we told people they weren’t allowed to bring guns in!”

As many have said, it’s probably pointless but in our litigious society, sometimes pointless things get done.

# 39 Phydeau said, on November 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

#36 MikeN, why do you even bother? We all know the story. Just man up and admit that it’s risky, but you’re willing to accept the risk.

# 40 Jetfire said, on November 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

#37,
“It’s more likely that the signs are put up to control legal liability by the facility. ”

If their CCW laws are anything like Ohio’s., they took care of that. Ohio’s was writen that they’re not liable if they have it posted or not. This was done to cover both sides. Anti-gun say they would sue if someone used a gun and didn’t have the sign. Pro-gun said they would sue if you did have a sign and I then could defend myself.

In Ohio it’s is trespassing for ignoring the sign except were prohibited by law (ex. Fed builds, school, ect.) then it’s a felony. Like most said I just shop elsewhere but haven’t seen a lot of them. Wonder if that office building in FL. had one.

# 41 Floyd said, on November 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

#18: not Photoshopped. I remember seeing that sign at the entrance to the Minneapolis art museum, a little over a year ago.

# 42 Mr. Fusion said, on November 6th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

#29, spinny,

what that sign really says is ” there are no armed citizens in here, please feel free to use it as a free-fire zone”

What the sign really says is “We have armed and trained security guards to deal with any situation. You additional assistance is not required”.

# 43 gal416 said, on November 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

Guns in cold dead hands should be illegal, especially in art museums.

# 44 spinnyd said, on November 6th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

#41 Clearly you weren’t paying attention if you though you saw armed and trained security guards, most security guards would just piss their pants when the shooting started.

# 45 LibertyLover said, on November 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

I can’t believe all the people here who are so afraid of guns. Amazing.

From the Civilian Gun Self-Defense Blog:

the numbers represent a 5 percent injury rate and less than 1 percent fatality rate for armed citizens. Because these incidents are MORE likely to be reported, the real rates are likely even lower.

I’ll take a 1% chance of dying from my own weapon.

Among the surveyed incidents, a defender’s gun was taken away and used against him or her only seven times. Criminals’ guns were used against them nearly 200 times!

In confrontational shootings, studies show police hit their targets between 13 percent and 25 percent of the time.

Of the incidents analyzed in this study, civilians hit their targets 84 percent of the time.

This comparison does not account for the number of shots fired, only hits or misses. Nevertheless, it gives us a statistical basis to refute claims that only police should have firearms or that civilian shooters are largely ineffective in emergencies.

Wouldn’t you find it a crying shame that so many people could have been saved if only they had the means to defend themselves?

# 46 Buffet said, on November 6th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

Hope that counts for trigger-happy pigs as well! No one is safe as long as they’re on the loose.

# 47 ScotterOtter said, on November 6th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

Seems pretty reasonable to me since most museums in Europe I went to this year banned water.

# 48 WmDE said, on November 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

How about a quietly idling chainsaw?

# 49 Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection said, on November 6th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

We were bored and updated the men’s room here at the church.

# 50 FrankTheDog said, on November 6th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

This sign is annoying, but a few years ago traveling to Cleveland and seeing the same sign at every Ohio rest stop was disturbing.

I have since read that ODOT was required to remove them.

# 51 The0ne said, on November 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

#19
Get a sense of humor and come back Or rather, watch Married with children with Al building Buck the dog house and get yourself a funny bone.

# 52 deowll said, on November 6th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

The only problem with those signs is that people intent on doing harm won’t obey them.

# 53 Chris Mac said, on November 6th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

The sign is obviously there to protect the image of the Virgin Mary/Jesus/ETC on the wall above it. Wouldn’t want anyone trying to shoot it off the wall.

# 54 Frédéric said, on November 6th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

What do you mean, only in america? Actually I would have thought that outside of america guns would be banned, but in America the 2nd amendment would prevent that.

# 55 Angus S-F said, on November 6th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

IMHO ESR has it right:

“…refusal to bear arms is a form of moral cowardice masquerading as virtue”

Armed and Dangerous
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1398

# 56 mr. show said, on November 6th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

That’s great…no guns. I’ll fend off the bad guys with a fine Rembrandt or maybe a Klee…his art is pointy and more likely to hurt!

# 57 Mr.nowhereelse said, on November 7th, 2009 at 1:38 am

Only in America… as well as some comments of this post ! Funny or scary ?

# 58 Chris Mac said, on November 7th, 2009 at 4:10 am

If you don’t think its a bit funny. im scared.

# 59 bobbo, the evangelical anti-theist said, on November 7th, 2009 at 5:48 am

Seems to me if owning/bearing guns is a privately head constitutional right that should “trump” mere property owner’s right to “disarm.” It would be on par with property owners being able to say “no gays” or interracial couples holding hands while viewing the art.

But such laws exist and are enforced. Shows the crack in the liberty bell.

# 60 right said, on November 7th, 2009 at 9:50 am

“I carry legally where I can. ”

That’s just so sad to live in fear every day. Nice place you got there.
Or maybe you’re just a western cowboy wannabe longing for the old days.
Either way.

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