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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1600652</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#98, Get your nose out of conFusion&#039;s butt.

And FYI, which war are you talking about?  The Iraq war which Obama said he would get us out of or the other one, which he said he would get us out of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#98, Get your nose out of conFusion&#8217;s butt.</p>
<p>And FYI, which war are you talking about?  The Iraq war which Obama said he would get us out of or the other one, which he said he would get us out of?</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1600533</link>
		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m forced to buy shit I don&#039;t use every year. For starters, i pay thousands every  year for public schools. I have no kids and never will. 

Guess what, it&#039;s the right thing to do. I get it. So, stfu. 
Isn&#039;t there a war or something to keep u occupied while dems work on domestic problems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m forced to buy shit I don&#8217;t use every year. For starters, i pay thousands every  year for public schools. I have no kids and never will. </p>
<p>Guess what, it&#8217;s the right thing to do. I get it. So, stfu.<br />
Isn&#8217;t there a war or something to keep u occupied while dems work on domestic problems?</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599370</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#96, Sigh.  Trying to change the subject again, I see.

Why you would sacrifice others to save your wife?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#96, Sigh.  Trying to change the subject again, I see.</p>
<p>Why you would sacrifice others to save your wife?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599353</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#84, Loser,

&lt;i&gt;#79, Why you would sacrifice others to save your wife?&lt;/i&gt;

Have you stopped masturbating in public yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#84, Loser,</p>
<p><i>#79, Why you would sacrifice others to save your wife?</i></p>
<p>Have you stopped masturbating in public yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Hmeyers</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599211</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmeyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best way to have universal coverage is to FORCE POOR UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE to buy health insurance!

And that&#039;s what this plan is.

&lt;strong&gt;What could possibly go wrong?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to have universal coverage is to FORCE POOR UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE to buy health insurance!</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what this plan is.</p>
<p><strong>What could possibly go wrong?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Glenn E.</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599196</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just heard that it passed the US House with only two votes to spare. Now either that news source was wrong, can&#039;t count, or your source is wrong. I really don&#039;t care. But it shows that you can trust the damn press to get even the simplest details right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just heard that it passed the US House with only two votes to spare. Now either that news source was wrong, can&#8217;t count, or your source is wrong. I really don&#8217;t care. But it shows that you can trust the damn press to get even the simplest details right.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599168</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given your interest, you might want to check out the http://lastingliberty.com/ piece on the healthcare debate : Bigger Than Healthcare</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given your interest, you might want to check out the <a href="http://lastingliberty.com/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://lastingliberty.com/' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lastingliberty.com/</a> piece on the healthcare debate : Bigger Than Healthcare</p>
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		<title>By: Animby</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599158</link>
		<dc:creator>Animby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pointless debate, anyway, since the Senate has already declared the House bill DOA. One such report is here: http://tiny.cc/jz7GV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pointless debate, anyway, since the Senate has already declared the House bill DOA. One such report is here: <a href="http://tiny.cc/jz7GV" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tiny.cc/jz7GV' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tiny.cc/jz7GV</a></p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599144</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#89, I have something else for you to read.

http://earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/constitution/text.html

Mandating this is not Constitutional.

But that doesn&#039;t matter.  People think this is a democracy and not a republic.

Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#89, I have something else for you to read.</p>
<p><a href="http://earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/constitution/text.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/constitution/text.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/constitution/text.html</a></p>
<p>Mandating this is not Constitutional.</p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t matter.  People think this is a democracy and not a republic.</p>
<p>Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Loupe Garou</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599142</link>
		<dc:creator>Loupe Garou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#89 &quot;Read the Bill&quot;

Thanks for the lecture. Very satisfied with yourself aren&#039;t you? Every topic needs a pompous ass pontificating on it and you certainly seem to qualify.

BTW, there is no need for me to read the bill that is what our glorious leaders in congress are for. I am sure they have nothing but our best interest in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#89 &#8220;Read the Bill&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the lecture. Very satisfied with yourself aren&#8217;t you? Every topic needs a pompous ass pontificating on it and you certainly seem to qualify.</p>
<p>BTW, there is no need for me to read the bill that is what our glorious leaders in congress are for. I am sure they have nothing but our best interest in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: flip wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599138</link>
		<dc:creator>flip wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny to listen to you all whine about mandating health insurance. 

How many of you will forgo Medicare when the time comes?

I&#039;m willing to be it&#039;s a big fat 0 of you.

Put up or shut up.

Is this going to pinch your wallet? Yea, maybe. How much? If you&#039;ve got insurance from your employer it&#039;s not going to do anything to you, unless you&#039;re making over $400,000 a year and even then it&#039;s less than 1% tax. Read the bill.

If you&#039;re self-employed it&#039;s likely going to benefit you as it&#039;s likely to bring some real competition into the insurance market. Honestly, people. Read the bill.

If you&#039;re uninsured you&#039;re either going to be mandated to buy insurance or pay a fine. How much? $1,500 to $3,500 / year depending on your marital status, number of dependents. Read the  bill.

If you&#039;re uninsured and you want insurance there will be legit options for you either to get insurance from a private provider or through a public option. Read the bill.

If you want to go without insurance that&#039;s your choice, but there&#039;s a tax on that. And if you go out and get hit by a bus then you can foot the bill for your hospital stay.

Get a grip people. Read the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny to listen to you all whine about mandating health insurance. </p>
<p>How many of you will forgo Medicare when the time comes?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to be it&#8217;s a big fat 0 of you.</p>
<p>Put up or shut up.</p>
<p>Is this going to pinch your wallet? Yea, maybe. How much? If you&#8217;ve got insurance from your employer it&#8217;s not going to do anything to you, unless you&#8217;re making over $400,000 a year and even then it&#8217;s less than 1% tax. Read the bill.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re self-employed it&#8217;s likely going to benefit you as it&#8217;s likely to bring some real competition into the insurance market. Honestly, people. Read the bill.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re uninsured you&#8217;re either going to be mandated to buy insurance or pay a fine. How much? $1,500 to $3,500 / year depending on your marital status, number of dependents. Read the  bill.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re uninsured and you want insurance there will be legit options for you either to get insurance from a private provider or through a public option. Read the bill.</p>
<p>If you want to go without insurance that&#8217;s your choice, but there&#8217;s a tax on that. And if you go out and get hit by a bus then you can foot the bill for your hospital stay.</p>
<p>Get a grip people. Read the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599137</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those liberals out there, why are we taxing everyone at 2.5%? Why doesn&#039;t this tax only apply to the &quot;rich&quot;? Why are you not pushing to have the rich pay for everyone&#039;s health care? By the liberal&#039;s logic, if I do not want to pay for health care insurance, some rich bastard somewhere else should pay an extra 2.5% right? 

As LibertyLover said, so much for not raising taxes on people making less than $250K a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those liberals out there, why are we taxing everyone at 2.5%? Why doesn&#8217;t this tax only apply to the &#8220;rich&#8221;? Why are you not pushing to have the rich pay for everyone&#8217;s health care? By the liberal&#8217;s logic, if I do not want to pay for health care insurance, some rich bastard somewhere else should pay an extra 2.5% right? </p>
<p>As LibertyLover said, so much for not raising taxes on people making less than $250K a year.</p>
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		<title>By: badtimes</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599119</link>
		<dc:creator>badtimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awful lot of Chicken Littles here. 
Seems that most people that have actually lived under the US system and some of those other, evil &#039;socialist&#039; systems prefer the other ones. 
I think it&#039;s time for us to join the rest of Western civilization.
I have a hunch that the US will still exist in 2014. As a matter of fact, I would put money on it. Dollars, euros, or Ameros for you crackpots out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awful lot of Chicken Littles here.<br />
Seems that most people that have actually lived under the US system and some of those other, evil &#8217;socialist&#8217; systems prefer the other ones.<br />
I think it&#8217;s time for us to join the rest of Western civilization.<br />
I have a hunch that the US will still exist in 2014. As a matter of fact, I would put money on it. Dollars, euros, or Ameros for you crackpots out there.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599098</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81, Actually, if you&#039;ll notice, I haven&#039;t responded to anything Poison Twin has drooled toward me since he backed out of his deal to answer why he would sacrifice others to save his wife, if I would answer it first.

The man&#039;s a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81, Actually, if you&#8217;ll notice, I haven&#8217;t responded to anything Poison Twin has drooled toward me since he backed out of his deal to answer why he would sacrifice others to save his wife, if I would answer it first.</p>
<p>The man&#8217;s a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care-bill-220-215/comment-page-2/#comment-1599097</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#80, Hard to lose an argument when I&#039;m not in an argument with him. Until he answers the question, he is just typing to the wind.

But, I do have a question for you -- 

If someone else&#039;s small business would be worse off with the new law but yours would be better off, would you support it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#80, Hard to lose an argument when I&#8217;m not in an argument with him. Until he answers the question, he is just typing to the wind.</p>
<p>But, I do have a question for you &#8212; </p>
<p>If someone else&#8217;s small business would be worse off with the new law but yours would be better off, would you support it?</p>
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