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	<title>Comments on: UK to spy on every phone call, email and web search</title>
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		<title>By: vamp07</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-2/#comment-1599979</link>
		<dc:creator>vamp07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of surveillance will be used for 1% good and 99% evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of surveillance will be used for 1% good and 99% evil.</p>
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		<title>By: GetSmart</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-2/#comment-1599856</link>
		<dc:creator>GetSmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More false positives than there are stars in the sky, I&#039;m betting. And the amount of electricity used in this sort of thing, all the quickly obsolete equipment for deep packet inspection and the servers themselves dealing with every packet at least three times instead of just once, and the raw tonnage of hard disks needed to store this pointless crap on. It would probably be more environmentally friendly ( And cost less in terms of hardware.) to just give everyone a fucking Hummer H2. We need the Green Party people to oppose this as an extensive waste of energy. And maybe some propaganda with inflated figures about the amount of CO2 this is gonna put into the environment. And how the politicos who are for this are going to raise prices for telephone and internet on the consumer to pay for this ineffective crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More false positives than there are stars in the sky, I&#8217;m betting. And the amount of electricity used in this sort of thing, all the quickly obsolete equipment for deep packet inspection and the servers themselves dealing with every packet at least three times instead of just once, and the raw tonnage of hard disks needed to store this pointless crap on. It would probably be more environmentally friendly ( And cost less in terms of hardware.) to just give everyone a fucking Hummer H2. We need the Green Party people to oppose this as an extensive waste of energy. And maybe some propaganda with inflated figures about the amount of CO2 this is gonna put into the environment. And how the politicos who are for this are going to raise prices for telephone and internet on the consumer to pay for this ineffective crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-2/#comment-1599803</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to put out a program that causes all computers to incessantly google &quot;Bomb Making Techniques,&quot; &quot;Her Majesty Naked,&quot; &quot;John Dvorak&#039;s Sex Crimes Against Parliament&quot; and so on. 

You know. Just to give them something to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to put out a program that causes all computers to incessantly google &#8220;Bomb Making Techniques,&#8221; &#8220;Her Majesty Naked,&#8221; &#8220;John Dvorak&#8217;s Sex Crimes Against Parliament&#8221; and so on. </p>
<p>You know. Just to give them something to do.</p>
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		<title>By: NobodySpecial</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-2/#comment-1599773</link>
		<dc:creator>NobodySpecial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@me,
Yes it&#039;s the local city council!

There was a law introduced a few years ago &#039;RIPA&#039; to allow the authorities to get this type of information.
It was vitally needed to fight terrorism, not the normal IRA bombing kind of terrorism we have managed to live with for 30years - but modern scary cyber terrorism.

It was then immediately used by the local council to track people pretending to live at a different address to get their kids into a better school, people putting their trash out on the wrong day and terrorist dog walkers in the park</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@me,<br />
Yes it&#8217;s the local city council!</p>
<p>There was a law introduced a few years ago &#8216;RIPA&#8217; to allow the authorities to get this type of information.<br />
It was vitally needed to fight terrorism, not the normal IRA bombing kind of terrorism we have managed to live with for 30years &#8211; but modern scary cyber terrorism.</p>
<p>It was then immediately used by the local council to track people pretending to live at a different address to get their kids into a better school, people putting their trash out on the wrong day and terrorist dog walkers in the park</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-2/#comment-1599760</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;more than insignificant opposition.&quot;
reword??
more then significant opposition.

21,
Thats the BEST PART..
you can TRACK BACK who is watching, and KNOW who the pervs are, and WHO is stalking you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;more than insignificant opposition.&#8221;<br />
reword??<br />
more then significant opposition.</p>
<p>21,<br />
Thats the BEST PART..<br />
you can TRACK BACK who is watching, and KNOW who the pervs are, and WHO is stalking you.</p>
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		<title>By: badtimes</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-2/#comment-1599756</link>
		<dc:creator>badtimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else click through to the article and read it? 
The article says it hasn&#039;t been brought before Parliament yet. 
As #6 notes, (from the article) &quot;Meanwhile the communications providers themselves questioned the cost of the scheme and whether it was even technically feasible.&quot;
And while Jacqui Smith et. al. say they will push the legislation through, it seems there is more than insignificant opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else click through to the article and read it?<br />
The article says it hasn&#8217;t been brought before Parliament yet.<br />
As #6 notes, (from the article) &#8220;Meanwhile the communications providers themselves questioned the cost of the scheme and whether it was even technically feasible.&#8221;<br />
And while Jacqui Smith et. al. say they will push the legislation through, it seems there is more than insignificant opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Li</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-2/#comment-1599752</link>
		<dc:creator>Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want to know how a second american revolution would work out?

http://xkcd.com/652/

Bout like that. Have fun with your shotgun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to know how a second american revolution would work out?</p>
<p><a href="http://xkcd.com/652/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://xkcd.com/652/' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://xkcd.com/652/</a></p>
<p>Bout like that. Have fun with your shotgun!</p>
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		<title>By: roastedpeanuts</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-2/#comment-1599747</link>
		<dc:creator>roastedpeanuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government sponsored insider trading! YAYYYY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government sponsored insider trading! YAYYYY!</p>
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		<title>By: Breetai</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-2/#comment-1599734</link>
		<dc:creator>Breetai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw Making it public.  It&#039;ll be a perfect stalking tool.  Not to mention all the pervs using it to watch schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw Making it public.  It&#8217;ll be a perfect stalking tool.  Not to mention all the pervs using it to watch schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Dodd</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1599728</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16-Winston-the technology of revolutions past (guns in the hands of the masses) is powerless in the 21st century.

If I read you correctly you are saying that in the 21st century fighting back using force is no longer practical. 

I would be interested to hear exactly how you believe tyrants should be eliminated and freedom restored... or is slavery the only option?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16-Winston-the technology of revolutions past (guns in the hands of the masses) is powerless in the 21st century.</p>
<p>If I read you correctly you are saying that in the 21st century fighting back using force is no longer practical. </p>
<p>I would be interested to hear exactly how you believe tyrants should be eliminated and freedom restored&#8230; or is slavery the only option?</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1599726</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For you types in Britain, Is the local council the equivalent or our city councils here in the ole US of A? Because if so, that&#039;s a scary prospect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For you types in Britain, Is the local council the equivalent or our city councils here in the ole US of A? Because if so, that&#8217;s a scary prospect.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1599725</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only way to USE your rights, NOW..
Is to record EVERYTHING..
Personal recorder.
CAR recorder.
WORK recorder.

WOW, sounds like we are back to recording OURSELVES.

I agree to let you RECORD my actions, IF&#039; you record the GOVERNMENTS and those responsible for RECORDING ME.  INSIDE and out.
THEN make it public.  ALL of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only way to USE your rights, NOW..<br />
Is to record EVERYTHING..<br />
Personal recorder.<br />
CAR recorder.<br />
WORK recorder.</p>
<p>WOW, sounds like we are back to recording OURSELVES.</p>
<p>I agree to let you RECORD my actions, IF&#8217; you record the GOVERNMENTS and those responsible for RECORDING ME.  INSIDE and out.<br />
THEN make it public.  ALL of it.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1599724</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11,
Jim,
and the TIME to do something is NOW, rather then later.
If everyone would Exert their rights, they WILL back down.
as the RIGHT to shut up, when a COP wishes to talk to you.
AS the RIGHT to ask the cop, IF you arent under arrest, Why are you cuffed and being taken away.
AS is your right to ASK/request ANY person to leave your home, at any time.

The problem we have is WE DONT KNOW OUR RIGHTS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11,<br />
Jim,<br />
and the TIME to do something is NOW, rather then later.<br />
If everyone would Exert their rights, they WILL back down.<br />
as the RIGHT to shut up, when a COP wishes to talk to you.<br />
AS the RIGHT to ask the cop, IF you arent under arrest, Why are you cuffed and being taken away.<br />
AS is your right to ASK/request ANY person to leave your home, at any time.</p>
<p>The problem we have is WE DONT KNOW OUR RIGHTS.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1599722</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowledge is power. The internet has temporarily shifted the balance of power to the group of (anyone who can afford internet connectivity) and the transnational corporations and their minions, government agencies, and certain trade groups (e.g. **AA) are exploring means to reclaim the majority of that power and the economic and mindshare control that comes with it.
#15, the technology of revolutions past (guns in the hands of the masses) is powerless in the 21st century. But by all means give it a shot if it makes you feel better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowledge is power. The internet has temporarily shifted the balance of power to the group of (anyone who can afford internet connectivity) and the transnational corporations and their minions, government agencies, and certain trade groups (e.g. **AA) are exploring means to reclaim the majority of that power and the economic and mindshare control that comes with it.<br />
#15, the technology of revolutions past (guns in the hands of the masses) is powerless in the 21st century. But by all means give it a shot if it makes you feel better.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Dodd</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/10/uk-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1599704</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3&amp;#13-Stick a fork in us, we’re done.

What a bunch of wussies. 

Lock and load... send a message even tyrants can understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3&amp;#13-Stick a fork in us, we’re done.</p>
<p>What a bunch of wussies. </p>
<p>Lock and load&#8230; send a message even tyrants can understand.</p>
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