You know … lead by example, accountability, etc.

I bet the governments of most countries waste on par with their entire citizenry.

It’s basically a theme park now, and as they crank up the carbon tax penalties they’ll kill tourism which was their last external revenue source.

(No iPod here, I despise Apple for many reasons. )

The point is (which you discount)is shitting inside our little shared air bubble we call earth is also worth considering.

I’m sure we can both shit in here for decades until we are dead, but somehow I have a moral obligation to future generations. I say, we put limits as to what passes for reason. Note we can’t dump toxic pollutants into our rivers even though that IPOD you have makes you look hip. It’s a good tradeoff, no?

What the ecotards are really saying is “we think X is going to ruin you life, so to prevent that, we will go ahead and ruin your life ourselves.”

If you look at any “carbon footprint calculator” with an unbiased eye, you will realize it’s really a quality of live calculator.

It isn’t free. The fat ass must pay more for larger clothing, more groceries, and higher health care bills. The Hummer requires fill-ups every 3 miles or so.

That individual does pay more, in every way, already.

I don’t think you mean that, though. I think you want to see the fat ass be punished in some manner for co-existing with you. Is that it?

For instance, excessively polluting the environment by hauling your fat ass to the mall on a Hummer should not be free.

Why don’t governments just tax waste producing industries and give that money to cleaner industries? This would create a balanced carrot and stick; it would also cost the government nothing.

Getting investment banks involved in this is lunacy. Just think, maybe Enron can be resurrected too. They would be perfect to help run the exchange. What could go wrong?

Really, I mean…Does this guy just need something to do? Have the Queen make him lord High of the Privey (Closet)