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		<title>By: natefrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>natefrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35, Cursor_;

Recreational use of motor vehicles kills and injures people.

You&#039;re an idiot.</description>
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<p>Recreational use of motor vehicles kills and injures people.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: jbellies</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbellies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won&#039;t go anywhere until the zealots at the top the DEA are replaced by reasonable people.  There&#039;s no convincing a person who does not value reason.</description>
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		<title>By: Cayenne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cayenne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like and want it legalized.

The argument is a complete fallacy.

Big Gov&#039;t will out-spend any taxes that can potentially can be collected. 
Leading to new streams of revenue - cocaine? prostution? Not that I&#039;m against them but the argument that this will fix deficits is a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like and want it legalized.</p>
<p>The argument is a complete fallacy.</p>
<p>Big Gov&#8217;t will out-spend any taxes that can potentially can be collected.<br />
Leading to new streams of revenue &#8211; cocaine? prostution? Not that I&#8217;m against them but the argument that this will fix deficits is a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: KneeJerk Optimist</title>
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		<dc:creator>KneeJerk Optimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He who binds himself to a joy
Does the winged life destroy
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Does the winged life destroy<br />
But he who kisses the joy as it flies<br />
Lives in eternity&#8217;s sunrise</p>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
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		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 Cursor_ said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
All drug addicts are the same. They cannot conceive that their addiction can influence anyone other than themselves. All of them are either liars or deluded.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

-actually, they aren&#039;t


While this could be misconstrued as proof..

During the 80&#039;s when i was playing with Triple T Muni&#039;s, i had discovered
an interesting fact:

In the Bear&amp;Stearns building here in nyc (55 water street, iirc)

There were several people dressed to the nine&#039;s in three piece suits
that went around to all the offices
(ie their customers)with an attache case full of all the favorite illegals
of the time, coke, smoke, heroin, freebase, ludes, Penwalt/bi-amphetamine (black beauties) and few other popular pharmaceuticals for sale
to those in desire..

The &quot;display case&quot; was beautifully organized and very professional.

This type of service existed in many
of the big name wall street buildings downtown. 

what i am getting at is your &quot;picture
perfect&quot; drug addict that has been painted for you by big brother and it&#039;s propaganda arm, far far removed from the true reality.

While drugs are &quot;out of fashion&quot; in the mainstream view these days, this practice still exists.

There are infinitely more &quot;functional drug addicts&quot; in the U.S. wearing business suits than there are of the typical &quot;non-functional&quot; drug addicts depicted on TV.

I know this as fact just by my observation over the past 25 years
as i have both, as many friends and clients in the &quot;street&quot; as i do in the office. 

doing house/office call PC repairs gives one unique access and insight to the personal lives of both.

My bond broker was one of the
office class &quot;addicts&quot;. -while i knew this from the start, i did not know how fast and severe he &quot;escalated&quot; until after i had exited the bond market.

Yes, he eventually lost everything, however during the 7 years he was a &quot;functional addict&quot; he was extremely good at his job.

Your comment is valid to a degree, however, the amount of addicts in medium-high-level business matches or 
exceeds your &quot;classic addict&quot; view.

If **all** the so called &quot;addicts&quot; were suddenly thrown in jail, this country would easily lose 40%-50% of 
its workforce in a day.

People are positioned in the test lab
chain to assure this trend is never interrupted.

Only one thing is 100% for sure: 

&lt;em&gt;We are ALL deluded&lt;/em&gt;

Keep that in mind in the future..

-s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 Cursor_ said:</p>
<blockquote><p>
All drug addicts are the same. They cannot conceive that their addiction can influence anyone other than themselves. All of them are either liars or deluded.
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<p>-actually, they aren&#8217;t</p>
<p>While this could be misconstrued as proof..</p>
<p>During the 80&#8217;s when i was playing with Triple T Muni&#8217;s, i had discovered<br />
an interesting fact:</p>
<p>In the Bear&amp;Stearns building here in nyc (55 water street, iirc)</p>
<p>There were several people dressed to the nine&#8217;s in three piece suits<br />
that went around to all the offices<br />
(ie their customers)with an attache case full of all the favorite illegals<br />
of the time, coke, smoke, heroin, freebase, ludes, Penwalt/bi-amphetamine (black beauties) and few other popular pharmaceuticals for sale<br />
to those in desire..</p>
<p>The &#8220;display case&#8221; was beautifully organized and very professional.</p>
<p>This type of service existed in many<br />
of the big name wall street buildings downtown. </p>
<p>what i am getting at is your &#8220;picture<br />
perfect&#8221; drug addict that has been painted for you by big brother and it&#8217;s propaganda arm, far far removed from the true reality.</p>
<p>While drugs are &#8220;out of fashion&#8221; in the mainstream view these days, this practice still exists.</p>
<p>There are infinitely more &#8220;functional drug addicts&#8221; in the U.S. wearing business suits than there are of the typical &#8220;non-functional&#8221; drug addicts depicted on TV.</p>
<p>I know this as fact just by my observation over the past 25 years<br />
as i have both, as many friends and clients in the &#8220;street&#8221; as i do in the office. </p>
<p>doing house/office call PC repairs gives one unique access and insight to the personal lives of both.</p>
<p>My bond broker was one of the<br />
office class &#8220;addicts&#8221;. -while i knew this from the start, i did not know how fast and severe he &#8220;escalated&#8221; until after i had exited the bond market.</p>
<p>Yes, he eventually lost everything, however during the 7 years he was a &#8220;functional addict&#8221; he was extremely good at his job.</p>
<p>Your comment is valid to a degree, however, the amount of addicts in medium-high-level business matches or<br />
exceeds your &#8220;classic addict&#8221; view.</p>
<p>If **all** the so called &#8220;addicts&#8221; were suddenly thrown in jail, this country would easily lose 40%-50% of<br />
its workforce in a day.</p>
<p>People are positioned in the test lab<br />
chain to assure this trend is never interrupted.</p>
<p>Only one thing is 100% for sure: </p>
<p><em>We are ALL deluded</em></p>
<p>Keep that in mind in the future..</p>
<p>-s</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They wont legalize it because organized crime wouldn&#039;t like that.</description>
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		<title>By: Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea.

#32 you must be republican. You just can&#039;t seem to separate the practical from the ridiculous.  

The &quot;if x happens the slippery slope&quot; theory. The &quot;if y happens the domino theory&quot;. The is z marries the &quot;people will marry horses&quot; theory. The &quot;socialist agenda&quot; theory.

Why do you people live in a perpetual state of fear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea.</p>
<p>#32 you must be republican. You just can&#8217;t seem to separate the practical from the ridiculous.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;if x happens the slippery slope&#8221; theory. The &#8220;if y happens the domino theory&#8221;. The is z marries the &#8220;people will marry horses&#8221; theory. The &#8220;socialist agenda&#8221; theory.</p>
<p>Why do you people live in a perpetual state of fear?</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the light of the present discussion, it is interesting to note what happened recently in the UK.

Professor David Nutt was forced to resign from his role as chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs. Research by Nutt and his colleagues, published in the medical journal the Lancet in 2007, rates drugs in order of their relative harm, where #1 is most harmful. Results included the following:
#5 alcohol
#9 tobacco
#11Cannabis

Was he fired because his facts were wrong? Oh no - he was fired because his remarks were contrary to declared government policy.

Credentials:
Professor David J Nutt MRCP MRCPsych FRCPsych FMedSci is professor of Neuropsychopharmacology.

The politician who fired him left school at 15 and was once a postman.

Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the light of the present discussion, it is interesting to note what happened recently in the UK.</p>
<p>Professor David Nutt was forced to resign from his role as chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs. Research by Nutt and his colleagues, published in the medical journal the Lancet in 2007, rates drugs in order of their relative harm, where #1 is most harmful. Results included the following:<br />
#5 alcohol<br />
#9 tobacco<br />
#11Cannabis</p>
<p>Was he fired because his facts were wrong? Oh no &#8211; he was fired because his remarks were contrary to declared government policy.</p>
<p>Credentials:<br />
Professor David J Nutt MRCP MRCPsych FRCPsych FMedSci is professor of Neuropsychopharmacology.</p>
<p>The politician who fired him left school at 15 and was once a postman.</p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Cursor_</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cursor_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes of course let it be legal and taxed.

Where do we get the money to pay for the dead and injured when a larger percentage of these morons hit the streets, planes and trains of the nation?

Isn&#039;t enough we have so much death from alcohol that we have to add yet another legal depressant to kill motor skills and risk other peoples&#039; lives?

All drug addicts are the same. They cannot conceive that their addiction can influence anyone other than themselves. All of them are either liars or deluded.

Recreational use of dugs kills and injures people. 

Cursor_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes of course let it be legal and taxed.</p>
<p>Where do we get the money to pay for the dead and injured when a larger percentage of these morons hit the streets, planes and trains of the nation?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t enough we have so much death from alcohol that we have to add yet another legal depressant to kill motor skills and risk other peoples&#8217; lives?</p>
<p>All drug addicts are the same. They cannot conceive that their addiction can influence anyone other than themselves. All of them are either liars or deluded.</p>
<p>Recreational use of dugs kills and injures people. </p>
<p>Cursor_</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23
From what I understand, that test would not hold up in court because you can have a high level of cannabinoid for many hours after you have smoked pot and after you have come down from your high which would negate the ability to determine if you were high at the time you were driving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23<br />
From what I understand, that test would not hold up in court because you can have a high level of cannabinoid for many hours after you have smoked pot and after you have come down from your high which would negate the ability to determine if you were high at the time you were driving.</p>
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		<title>By: tcc3</title>
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		<dc:creator>tcc3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RBG - only two of those three things you mentioned are actually wrong. The third is actually more harmful to women when its illegal, and workers dont have any rights and are at the mercy of unscrupulous pimps. Good reductio ad absurdum by the way.

This is not about legalizing terrible things for money. This is about asking why something that does little harm is illegal in the first place. If it shouldn&#039;t be illegal, and we can take a valueless expenditure (MJ drug enforcement and incarceration) and turn it into a source of revenue, then thats win win in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RBG &#8211; only two of those three things you mentioned are actually wrong. The third is actually more harmful to women when its illegal, and workers dont have any rights and are at the mercy of unscrupulous pimps. Good reductio ad absurdum by the way.</p>
<p>This is not about legalizing terrible things for money. This is about asking why something that does little harm is illegal in the first place. If it shouldn&#8217;t be illegal, and we can take a valueless expenditure (MJ drug enforcement and incarceration) and turn it into a source of revenue, then thats win win in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the money thing. How much $$ to be made if we legalize other stuff too, like prostitution, beastiality, extortion... It&#039;s like the Catholic indulgences. Pays your money &amp; wipe out the sin. But that&#039;s ok as long as the money goes to support good causes. And how much does it cost our system anyway to keep extortion at bay?  

RBG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the money thing. How much $$ to be made if we legalize other stuff too, like prostitution, beastiality, extortion&#8230; It&#8217;s like the Catholic indulgences. Pays your money &amp; wipe out the sin. But that&#8217;s ok as long as the money goes to support good causes. And how much does it cost our system anyway to keep extortion at bay?  </p>
<p>RBG</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest threat from legalization of marijuana would be to kill the baggie industry.</description>
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		<title>By: Special Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Special Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marijuana only leads to Fritos and Oreos.</description>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt it will be 14 billion..
Maybe 1/4 of that value.
3.5 billion.

But think of WHAT it will take away.
For those that use Substitutes like alcohol and Tobacco..MJ is not as harsh.
And IF the Gov. places it under its SOLE control, insted of as Tobacco and alcohol are sold.  the money goes STRAIGHT to the gov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt it will be 14 billion..<br />
Maybe 1/4 of that value.<br />
3.5 billion.</p>
<p>But think of WHAT it will take away.<br />
For those that use Substitutes like alcohol and Tobacco..MJ is not as harsh.<br />
And IF the Gov. places it under its SOLE control, insted of as Tobacco and alcohol are sold.  the money goes STRAIGHT to the gov.</p>
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