If anyone for some reason knows how I could find a cache of the Reuters story on this climate change hoax email hacking story / Climategate / whatever you want to call it when it broke, please post. Before they deleted all of the ‘conservative’ posts there were some really going comments and links to data, and now it looks like a blacked out CIA file.

Seriously, as I suggested, read comments on some of the science/tech sites related to this story. The overwhelming consensus is that these emails are extremely damning. Or you could read some left-leaning publications which remove all decent comments not in line with their ideology. But all joking aside, as annoying and insulting as you can be, I would rather have the option of reading all comments on a story than Huffington Post/BBC/NYT/Reuters which remove good comments from people who are not in line with their political agenda as a matter of course. I suspect that is why you are here as well.

I would like to know when and where you claim to have done anything resembling research before I waste my time debating with someone with such a narrow-minded view and WAY too much time on his hands.

The only thing funny enough to comment on from your rants:

“Not all man-made global warming skeptics are right wing nuts, or even right wing for that matter.”

Can you name one that isn’t?

Have you ever heard of John C. Dvorak or do you just have enough time on your hands to comment on everyone’s blog on the internet?

If you had read any of the emails linked in this story or knew anything about this issue, you would at know some of the skeptical scientists getting under the skin of these clowns, but I would think you at least know what website you are at!

I would like to know when and where you claim to have done anything resembling research before I waste my time debating with someone with such a narrow-minded view and WAY too much time on his hands.

The only thing funny enough to comment on from your rants:

“Not all man-made global warming skeptics are right wing nuts, or even right wing for that matter.”

Can you name one that isn’t?

Have you ever heard of John C. Dvorak or do you just have enough time on your hands to comment on everyone’s blog on the internet?

If you had read any of the emails linked in this story or knew anything about this issue, you would at know some of the skeptical scientists getting under the skin of these clowns, but I would think you at least know what website you are at!

Seriously, as I suggested, read comments on some of the science/tech sites related to this story. The overwhelming consensus is that these emails are extremely damning. Or you could read some left-leaning publications which remove all decent comments not in line with their ideology. But all joking aside, as annoying and insulting as you can be, I would rather have the option of reading all comments on a story than Huffington Post/BBC/NYT/Reuters which remove good comments from people who are not in line with their political agenda as a matter of course. I suspect that is why you are here as well.

-sorry Uncle Dave, i’ll try to refrain.

it’s just that the last time i did that, people just quoted from something linked out of context to make it look whimsical at best..

-and you know me..as “simple” as everything is..until people take the blinders off so they can see the big picture..as the saying goes:

“the devil is in the details”

-of which i will spare no expense until people can finally see it for themselves.

One must be reconnected to their “child’s eyes” instincts.

What i have re-discovered and now can finally “see” is germane to us all, and is very important in the macro scale of humanity..

(maybe i just have too much faith in people on the whole..call it a flaw,
-but i do not think it is.)

Trust me on this. -what i appear to always be rambling on about will eventually become clear as a bell.

(and before we all have great grandchildren, i can assure you..)

again, my apologies.

-s

From #104 soundwash’s exceedingly long quote:

“It is interesting to note that the tops of storm clouds are positively charged and the base is negative. That is the reverse of the radial charge polarization within the Earth itself. And it is this charge polarization that gives rise to the low-order attractive force we call gravity.”

Soundwash is losing it. Too much silver on the brain, I suppose…

Hey now, don’t knock the silver until you try it..

-as for the “radial charge polarization within the Earth”

In English: he describing gravity as a polarized corkscrew “wave”.

That is: gravity is a spiraling (like a corkscrew) type of electromagnetic wave that contains both a positive and negative charge.

Picture (or make) a section of a twisted pair of wires carrying +/- charges in conical (spiral cone-) shape.

a Gravity wave “starts” at the point of the “cone” and spirals out. (which is why it gets “weaker” with distance. (the inverse square law)

The (corkscrew) spin and the “point” that generates it, is simply the “spinning core” of every atom.

The more atoms, the more “gravity waves” generated. -hence why “massive things” exhibit more “gravitational effect”

It’s essentially, that friggen simple.

Polarized defined in this case:

To separate or accumulate positive and negative electric charges in two distinct regions. Polarized objects have an electric dipole moment and will undergo torque when placed in an external electric field.

Torque, as you know, can be described as a turning or twisting force..

-and we know there are [electro] magnetic fields everywhere. -however regular EM waves travel as a pair of sine waves 90degrees apart, while EM gravity waves travel entwined together in an outwardly radiating, and ever-increasing spiral-shape.

Gravity is simply a polarized conical (or helical) electromagnetic wave

Tada!

(that’s why if you investigate electro-gravitic research, there is always some spinning involved, be it simple a spinning disk or a toroidal (coiled) electromagnetic ring (or ring of plasma) generating a spinning magnetic field.

(Like the noise cancellation technology used in some headphones or headsets, merely produces the ambient sound 180degress out of phase to “cancel” noise..

You only need produce 180degrees out of phase corkscrew “gravity wave” to “cancel out” the local gravity field to obtain “neutral buoyancy” or neutralize gravity..)

His talk about the storm clouds is essentially describing the water molecule’s diamagnetic [<- wiki that] properties.

-and surprise! the water molecule just so happens to be a polarized electric dipole!

-this is why clouds “float”

I’ll attempt to simply:

The tiny molecules of water vapour that make up Clouds can be thought as Bar Magnets that (when in the presence of an external magnetic field, [like Earth's]) will always try to align their “North” side with the “north” of the external magnetic field causing a repulsive effect.

Clouds, (water vapour) will always try to “push away” from the Earths magnetic field..until they find equilibrium (in charge-state) and thus appear to “float”

Interesting fact: most all physical matter has diamagnetic properties in varying degrees and thus can be made to exhibit an “anti-gravity” effect under the right conditions.
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This is why the ancients were able to build the pyramids as fast as they did (actually, quite less than the supposed 20years.)

-and we still cannot figure how, with all of “today’s” technology.

they did not use 1000′s of slaves to drag 20 ton stones into place.

they used amongst other things, their knowledge the power of resonance, “sound”, and mind over matter to exploit the diamagnetic properties of the stones to levitate the stones in place.

the fact that all the pyramids were located (at that time) along the lines of the focal points of the earth’s electric power grid played a big role as well.

(the 19.5 degree latitude thing–place a star tetrahedron (the shape of the six pointed jewish star) inside the sphere of the earth to locate them. (known as the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, i think)

It is no coincidence that the sun spots on the sun tend to collect along the same latitudes. or that the red spot on jupiter is located along the same 19.5 degree latitude. –or that the energy field of the human body has the same “energy arrangement” –this why i keep harping above in post #102 on the fact that we are all [energetically connected and one set of simple “physics” defines everything in the universe including us)

-and the floors of the all pyramids were not made of slabs quartz crystal (which have peizoelectric properties, amongst others, because they looked pretty)

-all will be soon revealed and make in sense the coming days ahead. I can promise you that.

This knowledge can no longer be suppressed. the coming changes have been known for 1000′s of years..

When you say “I think soundwash is losing it” it only appears that way because I at last, understand how all the underlying connections work together. -and how simple it all really is.

-s

Need to hide any evidence that global warming may be pausing.

The guy says he hates the web, and that these bloggers just want to try and find something wrong with our work.

He does a back and forth with one scientist, asking him if the e-mails he sent him were intended to be confidential. The guy responds, I’ll have to check the e-mails. Phil says, no I just need a general yes or no, if you say yes, then I can deny the FOI request on that basis. The scientist, clueless, or perhaps realizing the implications and not wanting to join in, says I don’t think they were confidential.

Don’t post entire books. Short and concise items with links to the rest is what you need.

Soundwash is losing it. Too much silver on the brain, I suppose…

As for the original story all these comments are supposedly about: this is being pushed by Murdoch’s News Corp. It will turn out to be little to nothing.

Anyway, if the warming deniers are right and we’re actually headed for another ice age, I say we should immediately put a heavy tax on all fossil fuels so we can try to save as much of it as possible for when we _really_ need it!