Your kid causes someone to be injured or killed, you as the manufacturer of that ‘product’ is responsible.  Let the courts decide to what degree the ‘manufacturers’ can be held liable.

As an analogy let me suggest spy satellites. They get wonderful resolution and have that wow factor. But they describe structures and not full reality. Think Iraq War.

A good technology with spirited argument can achieve a bad result.

#39 Bobbo- There is the Platonic idea of “Truth” and then there is the real world, as determined by complex human systems, variety. I don’t think that the latter is entirely knowable.

Massive collection systems, now extending back beyond the initial DNA discussion, are dangerous BECAUSE of their seeming completeness.

Most people, of even the most recent generation, don’t really get technology. They don’t understand the promise and the sometimes silly simplicity of machines.

What people have that machines don’t is common sense. Machines, or models, often don’t work as advertised.

Look at the financial markets. Most people treat a few equations as if they were handed down from up on high. Combine that with human emotionality and everything falls apart with sickening regularity.

Anything that is really worth pursuing isn’t easy. Pretending it is often brings the worst of all worlds.

You’re only off by AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

There are only 360 million people living in the US.

It makes the rest of your conclusions suspect.

Just saying.

I think he’s choosing his battles, budgeting how he spends his “political capital.”

this is about DNA data aggregation and PROFILING for DNA discrimination/profiling of
“potential criminals” or potential “xxx” type people depending on what
class they are targeting for whatever the agenda of the day is.

Think Minority Report/pre-coggs

as some may not know, they have virtually isolated what is euphemistically called “the crime gene” as well as many “other traits”

This is a direct DNA harvest to be used by the UN/Global Government to
control every aspect of our lives.

(although it may be it bit more difficult now that the cat is out of the bag with man-made global warming hoax)

That was to be the primary source of funding for *everything* NWO related.

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Now that CO2 hoax is out, i can’t wait until the truth about the centuries long fraud of primarily
Western/NASA/Einstein & Academia’s Space/Universe and Energy physics science.

-which like the CO2 hoax, is almost
exclusively based on [manipulated] computer models. -not observational evidence.

Now that will be the “real” scandal of the century.

Perfect way to usher in the new age.
-with the truth.

-expect a lot of sudden “suicides” and whistle blowers in the coming days and months as the PTB scramble like rats in a sinking ship to plug the “leaks” and others look to “buy” their innocence.

-s

I’ve been saying we live in a Mirror Image of the true Reality for a good reason.

Everything we have been taught in science and humanity’s history is inverted, backwards and upside down.

Why? Simple: because the real way things are would allow complete independence and autonomy of every human on the planet.

The simple knowledge reserved for the so-called “gods” would be known and taught in grade school.

It’s going to be one hell of a ride the next few years..

The Mirror Image Rule applies..

If you didn’t see the writing on the wall that Britain was becoming a hardcore Hollywood style fascist state you can only be moron.

Of course if you don’t see the same about the US… same thing.

“Friendships, through social networking sites; commonly visited locations, through cell phone records; driving habits, through a combination of traffic cameras and license plate recognition software; commercial habits, through credit card records…”

As population increases and personal interaction expands to global proportions, technology is providing “small town” familiarity. DNA is a necessary tool. Wanted posters hardly ever work any more.

Your scenario is not representative of my suggestion. I did not propose we dispose of all other investigative means and evidence. Quite the opposite. DNA would be invaluable in pinpointing suspects and in many cases solidifying a conviction.

1. Whats the truth?
2. How pragmatic is it.

Keys to the moral universe.

I went away from DNA earlier in the thread, because I think it is the larger issue at play. Data collection, to me, is a much bigger issue. When endless data collection is feasible, how much data should the state collect? All of it, right?

A highly popular stat, don’t know if it is true, is that modern man would find more data in the NYT than primitive man could find in an entire lifetime.

Go further than DNA tests, and this is the bloody issue! If everything can be saved(economically) then when shouldn’t you save it?

Part of analysis is the end state. It isn’t just DNA: it’s everything that can be stored in a database. That means everything.

So what I’m getting at: Is there stuff that ought not to be saved? Which stuff? What if not saving said stuff causes a bother?(attack or crime)

This is an extraordinarily difficult social\legal problem. I welcome your thoughts.

BTW, JC–I apologize for calling you an idiot. I should have limited my grumpiness to “you are being illogical and totally ineffective.” Same thing, but “you know.”