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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question of the post: &quot;Ever Wonder What’s In Windex and Pledge and …&quot;

Errr, no.</description>
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<p>Errr, no.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/25/ever-wonder-whats-in-windex-and-pledge-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1605008</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30 Oh, a fellow dirty houser. Keep fighting the PC fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30 Oh, a fellow dirty houser. Keep fighting the PC fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Puke Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puke Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should ban the sale of all of these household chemicals.  They all end up in our water supplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should ban the sale of all of these household chemicals.  They all end up in our water supplies.</p>
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		<title>By: Buffet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buffet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My house HAS TO be clean when chics come over - which is often. I buy my detergents, bleach, glass and surface, kitchen, and bathroom cleaners, as well as air fresheners, and the like at Big Lots. I don&#039;t care what&#039;s in &#039;em and I&#039;m certainly noy afraid of &#039;em. When you&#039;re eo the point of paranoia over what&#039;s in glass cleaner, it&#039;s time to get a life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My house HAS TO be clean when chics come over &#8211; which is often. I buy my detergents, bleach, glass and surface, kitchen, and bathroom cleaners, as well as air fresheners, and the like at Big Lots. I don&#8217;t care what&#8217;s in &#8216;em and I&#8217;m certainly noy afraid of &#8216;em. When you&#8217;re eo the point of paranoia over what&#8217;s in glass cleaner, it&#8217;s time to get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I know about windex is that it leaves a nasty smell behind and doesn&#039;t clean very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I know about windex is that it leaves a nasty smell behind and doesn&#8217;t clean very well.</p>
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		<title>By: JimR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:#24, Bobbo...
The reason I chose the powder recipe is because I have some  knowledge (from a guy I knew who manufactured detergents) of  manufacturing tricks to make it seem that some products are more of a bargain. Some consumer brands fluff up their powder with air to increase volume... huge boxes that don&#039;t weigh as much as small boxes. So the appearance is that you get more for less. There are no inert fillers in laundry detergent, so the only way to measure relative value is by weight, since all the ingredients are similar from brand to brand. I&#039;m talking about standard laundry detergent without extra high tech ingredients... apples to apples. So that&#039;s why I used weight.

BTW, most Laundry detergents don&#039;t use soap as a surfactant because it can build up in the fibers of clothes and eventually ruin them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:#24, Bobbo&#8230;<br />
The reason I chose the powder recipe is because I have some  knowledge (from a guy I knew who manufactured detergents) of  manufacturing tricks to make it seem that some products are more of a bargain. Some consumer brands fluff up their powder with air to increase volume&#8230; huge boxes that don&#8217;t weigh as much as small boxes. So the appearance is that you get more for less. There are no inert fillers in laundry detergent, so the only way to measure relative value is by weight, since all the ingredients are similar from brand to brand. I&#8217;m talking about standard laundry detergent without extra high tech ingredients&#8230; apples to apples. So that&#8217;s why I used weight.</p>
<p>BTW, most Laundry detergents don&#8217;t use soap as a surfactant because it can build up in the fibers of clothes and eventually ruin them.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 Good one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 Good one!</p>
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		<title>By: gigwave</title>
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		<dc:creator>gigwave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend wanted to run through the park naked so I sprayed him with Windex.  It stopped him from streaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend wanted to run through the park naked so I sprayed him with Windex.  It stopped him from streaking.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo, international pastry chef and home made advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/11/25/ever-wonder-whats-in-windex-and-pledge-and/comment-page-1/#comment-1604792</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo, international pastry chef and home made advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22--Wm==excellent.  I think, you, me, and your therapist are all on the same page.

#23--Jim==my point was that the CONSUMER flim-flam is used at a PER CUP rate whereas the home made is used at the PER TABLESPOON rate--so given equal volumes of material costing the same, the home made is actually 16 times cheaper.  I don&#039;t KNOW THIS, I&#039;m just asking.

CONSUMER flim-flam syrup is TOO SWEET for my taste so I have been cutting back on the sugar in my syrup but then it got too thin/watery--the viscosity was not like store bought which I actually like.  So, I&#039;ve been experimenting with gelatin, tapioca, pectin.  They work good and don&#039;t affect taste, but the cost is prohibitive given it doesn&#039;t affect the taste???  Let us know what you come up with????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22&#8211;Wm==excellent.  I think, you, me, and your therapist are all on the same page.</p>
<p>#23&#8211;Jim==my point was that the CONSUMER flim-flam is used at a PER CUP rate whereas the home made is used at the PER TABLESPOON rate&#8211;so given equal volumes of material costing the same, the home made is actually 16 times cheaper.  I don&#8217;t KNOW THIS, I&#8217;m just asking.</p>
<p>CONSUMER flim-flam syrup is TOO SWEET for my taste so I have been cutting back on the sugar in my syrup but then it got too thin/watery&#8211;the viscosity was not like store bought which I actually like.  So, I&#8217;ve been experimenting with gelatin, tapioca, pectin.  They work good and don&#8217;t affect taste, but the cost is prohibitive given it doesn&#8217;t affect the taste???  Let us know what you come up with????</p>
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		<title>By: JimR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21, Bobbo, actually I liked your idea about syrup and I am definitely going to try it. (I should have mentioned that in my other post) I love too cook and rarely eat out... &quot;mixing&quot; your own food definitely has it&#039;s advantages, bulk or not. :)

Re: my other post... I did just estimate how many cups were in a 55 oz box of Borax, etc., so I may be off somewhat... but I figured &#039;eh&#039;... close enough to illustrate a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21, Bobbo, actually I liked your idea about syrup and I am definitely going to try it. (I should have mentioned that in my other post) I love too cook and rarely eat out&#8230; &#8220;mixing&#8221; your own food definitely has it&#8217;s advantages, bulk or not. <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Re: my other post&#8230; I did just estimate how many cups were in a 55 oz box of Borax, etc., so I may be off somewhat&#8230; but I figured &#8216;eh&#8217;&#8230; close enough to illustrate a point.</p>
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		<title>By: WmDE</title>
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		<dc:creator>WmDE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 Yes I was going to do a correction to the correction, but I called my therapist. He said that anyone that commented on it would be a bigger jackass than I was and to stop calling him at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 Yes I was going to do a correction to the correction, but I called my therapist. He said that anyone that commented on it would be a bigger jackass than I was and to stop calling him at home.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbo, "consumer" means flim-flam</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbo, "consumer" means flim-flam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18--Jim==I haven&#039;t done soap yet but I wonder if you have the &quot;volume&quot; comparison correct but the equivalency wrong??

Most home made soaps only use 1-2 Tablespoons per load whereas CONSUMER products use cups at a time.

Just wondering.

REPEAT:  Try making some of your own stuff for the fun/knowledge/hobby of the thing.  I LIKE knowing what is in the syrup I make and its not as sweet as store bought which I like.  Its not &quot;just&quot; the money, but that certainly helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18&#8211;Jim==I haven&#8217;t done soap yet but I wonder if you have the &#8220;volume&#8221; comparison correct but the equivalency wrong??</p>
<p>Most home made soaps only use 1-2 Tablespoons per load whereas CONSUMER products use cups at a time.</p>
<p>Just wondering.</p>
<p>REPEAT:  Try making some of your own stuff for the fun/knowledge/hobby of the thing.  I LIKE knowing what is in the syrup I make and its not as sweet as store bought which I like.  Its not &#8220;just&#8221; the money, but that certainly helps.</p>
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		<title>By: sargasso</title>
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		<dc:creator>sargasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoppers are reading the labels, and Googling the big words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoppers are reading the labels, and Googling the big words.</p>
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		<title>By: spsffan</title>
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		<dc:creator>spsffan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17

And Lysol works great on annoying moths that hang around lights in summer. Sure smells better than RAID or such.</description>
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<p>And Lysol works great on annoying moths that hang around lights in summer. Sure smells better than RAID or such.</p>
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		<title>By: JimR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recipe #9, powdered soap recipe...

12 cups Borax: $6
8 cups Baking Soda: $5
8 cups Washing Soda: $5
8 cups Bar soap (grated): $6
+ time, plus buying 4 different boxes

TOTAL: $22, Yield roughly 16 lbs.

....or you can buy 2 handy 8lb boxes
Arm &amp; Hammer with Oxi-Clean: $20

It&#039;s simply usually not worth the time/effort for an inferior home-made product if you buy a similar amount in bulk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recipe #9, powdered soap recipe&#8230;</p>
<p>12 cups Borax: $6<br />
8 cups Baking Soda: $5<br />
8 cups Washing Soda: $5<br />
8 cups Bar soap (grated): $6<br />
+ time, plus buying 4 different boxes</p>
<p>TOTAL: $22, Yield roughly 16 lbs.</p>
<p>&#8230;.or you can buy 2 handy 8lb boxes<br />
Arm &amp; Hammer with Oxi-Clean: $20</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply usually not worth the time/effort for an inferior home-made product if you buy a similar amount in bulk.</p>
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