Modern Trick or Treating grew out of the Scottish tradition of “guising”, going door to door asking for coins.

Dressing up in costume has been traced back to the Celts and begging for favors was a tradition for many religious celebrations.

The first noted modern Hallowe’en Trick or Treating as we know it can be traced to Kingston Ontario in 1911 when the local newspaper reported on the “tradition”. So it must have been done for years before that and Kingston has a strong Scottish immigrant history.

Mr parents have told stories of trick or treating during the 1920s and ’30s.

Every holiday and celebration has evolved with modern practices and concerns. Where homes used to provide home made treats, today home made treats are treated with scorn by children and extreme caution by parents. Where costumes used to be home made, today almost all costumes are store bought. What hasn’t changed is that parents or older siblings take their children from door to door with the children yelling “Trick or Treat” at each one.

I believe that the recent change of the DST (ending) date, to 1st Sunday in November, was one more concession to aid candy sales. So the parents wouldn’t be concerned about it being too dark for their kids to be out begging for treats.

Frankly I think it’s kooky to put kids at risk this way, just to use up the stale candy supply, before Christmas. It may have been a fairly safe marketing trick, back in the 1930s. But with kids becoming endanger of abductions, and other weirdness. I think it’s something that should have been phased out by now. Not promoted anew, by the mainstream media, and protected from any negative opinions and accounts. A couple years ago, on a US Tv series, a character said “Needles in candy bars, never happened”. They certainly x-rayed a lot of candy, for something that never happened. More media propaganda.

No need to denigrate our feeding habits when they provide for our breeding habits need to overpopulate the world. A Happy Thanksgiving to all, even you assholes who disgust me with your backwoods limited intellect and republican addiction.

RBG

“Hey Mr. D, OK you old crank, shut up an eat your turkey, you ingrate!”

Agreed. You tell that crank. I love Thanksgiving.
Have a great Thanksgiving to all here.

To the guy having the rib roast: I heard your wife enjoys it standing with the bone in…. ba ba boom! At least that’s how she liked it when I was around… ba ba ba boom!

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone except pedro. Hopefully he will choke on a bone, pass out and on the way to the floor knock over a candle thus starting a fire that burns the whole house down.

Your post couldn’t be further from the truth.

Don’t thank Lincoln for the myth of thanksgiving,

Lincoln proclaimed that the nation would celebrate a holiday that was then celebrated on different days in different states and even localities.

They all were trying to establish both a national pride of rich history in the new nation

More bullshit. Thanksgiving as a religious holiday was particularly strong in the fundamentalist New England States. It was more popular than Christmas. Note that in the mid and southern States, Christmas received far more attention than Thanksgiving.

… tie in faith with the myth to swell numbers in churches. Whom before the 1840’s were light to none in attendance.

Wrong again. Church attendance was near universal right up until after the Civil War when small numbers stopped attending church.

This kind of draping religion in the flag galvanised the later temperance groundswell

There was never anything secular about Thanksgiving until most recently. Thanksgiving in the US has always been a religious outpouring of appreciation to “god” for providing sufficient food to last until next year.

In England the tradition dated back to the Celts and their version of a Harvest Fest. That tradition grew in Canada to incorporate a celebration for the sake of a celebration of appreciation with no religious or national symbolism.

… and introduced the ideal of God anointing everything that the US does. Thereby making it easier to justify atrocities.

When you grow up in a society where everyone belongs to a religion, everything IS anointed by “god”. This concept was universal among Christians (and other religions) from the time of Constantine.

The campaign against alcohol is aged in millennium. As with most opinion, religion usually took an opinion. Some branches of the Christian churches even disallowed any imbibing of alcohol as a sin.

The Temperance movement was concurrent with the Industrial Revolution in America. As urban dwellers had time and money, too often it was spent on alcohol instead of food and shelter. Rural families had little money and thus lived off their harvests. This concentrated the Temperance movement in the cities.

Justify atrocities? Ya right. In war, every side has god on it.

The nation is an ethically poorer place and the truth is seldom if ever taught.

When history is invented with no regard to the truth yes, we do become a poorer place. And you sir have tried to invent history with your own prejudices.

Please discuss how and where one finds a ‘real old-fashioned’ turkey on NA.

Gobble, Gobble!

J

Next I expect you will tell us that Santa Claus is a sham. HO HO HO.

Now, that statement not-with-standing, it’s always good to come to this site for that misplaced cup of Holicay Cheer for brighter than bright whites, blasting through the dingy grey days, though I’m wondering about that frequent hit in the head with that cup you use which seems to be causing permanent damage to many of us.

ECA, #3, a modern note, modern day scientists have dicsovered they all died of bird flu, not the winter. Cold precipitation plus wind does not infect people. Winter deaths were caused by a mutating virus, that reverse transcripted itself into the DNA protein coat which all viruses have to keep warm thus forcing each subject cell to shed it’s protective antibody. They labeled it wrong as people do all so often.

i.e. – winter deaths / swine flu deaths / same problem with adjectives

Merry Tommas