Comments on: Slippery Slope Dept. — Pub ‘fined £8k’ for Wi-Fi copyright infringement by User http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Uncle Patso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608920 Uncle Patso Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:47:29 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608920 # 13 GigG: "This case though is like a bar owner that get’s hit with a fine because a patron does something illegal on the pay phone." Be specially careful not to allow any of your patrons to talk to someone who might be listening to copyrighted music that the patron could then overhear <b>without paying royalties</b> (gasp)!!! Soon you'll have to pay the RIAA every time you get a song stuck in your head and the MPAA every time you think of a scene from a movie or TV show. Next, lawsuits over unlicensed car horns, noisy brakes, doorbells and crying infants... # 13 GigG:
“This case though is like a bar owner that get’s hit with a fine because a patron does something illegal on the pay phone.”

Be specially careful not to allow any of your patrons to talk to someone who might be listening to copyrighted music that the patron could then overhear without paying royalties (gasp)!!! Soon you’ll have to pay the RIAA every time you get a song stuck in your head and the MPAA every time you think of a scene from a movie or TV show. Next, lawsuits over unlicensed car horns, noisy brakes, doorbells and crying infants…

]]> By: Breetai http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608866 Breetai Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:01:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608866 Does this mean you can sue politicians for passing stupid laws? I'm all for that. Does this mean you can sue politicians for passing stupid laws? I’m all for that.

]]> By: Buzz http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608699 Buzz Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:46:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608699 Exqueeze me, but isn't that illustration a non sequitur? Exqueeze me, but isn’t that illustration a non sequitur?

]]> By: GigG http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608689 GigG Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:26:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608689 And ISPs deserve getting blamed as long as they keep pushing for things like being able to throttle certain types of packages. If they want to be a comon carrier and get the protections that come along with it then they need to act like it. This case though is like a bar owner that get's hit with a fine because a patron does something illegal on the pay phone. And ISPs deserve getting blamed as long as they keep pushing for things like being able to throttle certain types of packages.

If they want to be a comon carrier and get the protections that come along with it then they need to act like it.

This case though is like a bar owner that get’s hit with a fine because a patron does something illegal on the pay phone.

]]> By: Toby E http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608688 Toby E Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:18:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608688 The idea that that the provider of the Wi-Fi hotspot could be liable for the download of copyrighted material is just crazy! The UK is in need of many more open Internet access points - hopefully this wont put too many off! The idea that that the provider of the Wi-Fi hotspot could be liable for the download of copyrighted material is just crazy! The UK is in need of many more open Internet access points – hopefully this wont put too many off!

]]> By: framecrash http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608676 framecrash Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:15:53 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608676 For what it's worth, ZDNet UK updated the article, saying that: "Professor Lilian Edwards was erroneously quoted as saying that businesses would "be responsible in theory" for users' unlawful downloads" [...] She actually told ZDNet UK that businesses would *not* be responsible in theory..." (my emphasis) For what it’s worth, ZDNet UK updated the article, saying that:

“Professor Lilian Edwards was erroneously quoted as saying that businesses would “be responsible in theory” for users’ unlawful downloads”

[...] She actually told ZDNet UK that businesses would *not* be responsible in theory…” (my emphasis)

]]> By: bloodywolf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608608 bloodywolf Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:02:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608608 that building looks like dvorak that building looks like dvorak

]]> By: Thinker http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608589 Thinker Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:26:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608589 Wow, can you imagine that you could use this to put a competitor out of business?? Or if someone had given you bad service? huh. Wow, can you imagine that you could use this to put a competitor out of business?? Or if someone had given you bad service?

huh.

]]> By: Animby http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608573 Animby Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:33:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608573 This will, if upheld, undoubtedly end WiFi Hotspots in the UK. So a law written to appease a specific economic sector (the entertainment industry) decreases the quality of life for an entire population. Sounds about right. This will, if upheld, undoubtedly end WiFi Hotspots in the UK. So a law written to appease a specific economic sector (the entertainment industry) decreases the quality of life for an entire population.

Sounds about right.

]]> By: deowll http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608546 deowll Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:11:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608546 The English bought into, "I'm from the government and I'm here to make your life better and now they don't have any more rights than somebody in prison." The same thing is happening here. The English bought into, “I’m from the government and I’m here to make your life better and now they don’t have any more rights than somebody in prison.”

The same thing is happening here.

]]> By: jbellies http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608538 jbellies Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:44:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608538 #1, the bottlers? Why not the government, which is a better analogy to the pub in this story? The government are the ultimate enablers-for-profit of the dangerous, ah, substance. It would be fun to see the government appeal this ruling when they are behind it (a "fine"?) in the first place. Unless, of course, they make themselves exempt, as they so often do. We have the precedent. Now bring on the equity judges! IANAL. #1, the bottlers? Why not the government, which is a better analogy to the pub in this story? The government are the ultimate enablers-for-profit of the dangerous, ah, substance. It would be fun to see the government appeal this ruling when they are behind it (a “fine”?) in the first place. Unless, of course, they make themselves exempt, as they so often do. We have the precedent. Now bring on the equity judges! IANAL.

]]> By: gquaglia http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608536 gquaglia Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:39:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608536 The UK, where "1984" has arrived, albeit a few decades late. The UK, where “1984″ has arrived, albeit a few decades late.

]]> By: mcpepants http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608534 mcpepants Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:28:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608534 Something else will just replace the internet, paradigm shifts occur when the government and corporations steal a public medium form the people. Information should be free and trying to contain it is a fools game. Something else will just replace the internet, paradigm shifts occur when the government and corporations steal a public medium form the people. Information should be free and trying to contain it is a fools game.

]]> By: NOOOO http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608526 NOOOO Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:55:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608526 This is the end of downloading they are going after the internet providers there is no way we can find a loop hole. Get redy to pay for over priced movies, games, book, and music. This is the end of downloading they are going after the internet providers there is no way we can find a loop hole. Get redy to pay for over priced movies, games, book, and music.

]]> By: honeyman http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/06/slippery-slope-dept-pub-fined-8k-for-wi-fi-copyright-infringement-by-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1608522 honeyman Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:52:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=64376#comment-1608522 You also have to wonder what the alleged 'copyright material' was and who decided it was a copyright infringement. You also have to wonder what the alleged ‘copyright material’ was and who decided it was a copyright infringement.

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