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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-3/#comment-1610410</link>
		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>40, Fusion, Okay the &quot;greedy&quot; banks made risky home loans day in and day out as part of some sort of vast right-wing conspiracy or they thought making bad loans was a good business model.  Got it.

I just gave you how and why the banks were forced to make the risky loans they would otherwise not have bothered doing.  It was explained in the link on post 39.

The CRA along with additional strengthening under the Clinton Administration for the CRA laid out the ground work for organizations like Acorn to put pressure onto banks.  Was this the intention of the CRA?  Nope.  But that&#039;s the unintended consequences.

Mortgage Company To Pay $2.1 Billion In HUD Discrimination Settlement:  http://tinyurl.com/ydralsu

Clinton HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo announced a settlement of a lending discrimination complaint with Accubanc, a Texas lender whose prerequisites for mortgages came under attack from “community organizers” at the Fort Worth Human Relations Commission and the city of Dallas:  http://tinyurl.com/3uvjvj

Other related news on the topic:  http://tinyurl.com/4y866x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40, Fusion, Okay the &#8220;greedy&#8221; banks made risky home loans day in and day out as part of some sort of vast right-wing conspiracy or they thought making bad loans was a good business model.  Got it.</p>
<p>I just gave you how and why the banks were forced to make the risky loans they would otherwise not have bothered doing.  It was explained in the link on post 39.</p>
<p>The CRA along with additional strengthening under the Clinton Administration for the CRA laid out the ground work for organizations like Acorn to put pressure onto banks.  Was this the intention of the CRA?  Nope.  But that&#8217;s the unintended consequences.</p>
<p>Mortgage Company To Pay $2.1 Billion In HUD Discrimination Settlement:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ydralsu" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/ydralsu' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/ydralsu</a></p>
<p>Clinton HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo announced a settlement of a lending discrimination complaint with Accubanc, a Texas lender whose prerequisites for mortgages came under attack from “community organizers” at the Fort Worth Human Relations Commission and the city of Dallas:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/3uvjvj" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/3uvjvj' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/3uvjvj</a></p>
<p>Other related news on the topic:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/4y866x" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/4y866x' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/4y866x</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1610297</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guyver,

Which brings us back to your claim that banks were forced by the legislation to write risky loans. They weren&#039;t. The risky loans were written for greed by the mortgage industry.

Unless you can show some evidence that they were forced, I suggest you quietly accept you lost a baseless claim.

Like the rest of the right wing nut arguments, your arguments are false and full of crap. It won&#039;t matter how much you repeat them, they won&#039;t come true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guyver,</p>
<p>Which brings us back to your claim that banks were forced by the legislation to write risky loans. They weren&#8217;t. The risky loans were written for greed by the mortgage industry.</p>
<p>Unless you can show some evidence that they were forced, I suggest you quietly accept you lost a baseless claim.</p>
<p>Like the rest of the right wing nut arguments, your arguments are false and full of crap. It won&#8217;t matter how much you repeat them, they won&#8217;t come true.</p>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1610194</link>
		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>38, Fusion, Yeah banks stay in business making risky loans all the time.  LOL.

Banks were forced by the way through organizations such as Acorn.

&quot;Critics of the notion that CRA had a major impact on the subprime crisis ask how a law passed in 1977 could have caused a crisis in 2008? The answer has a lot to do with ACORN — and the critical years of 1990-1995. While the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act did call on banks to increase lending in poor and minority neighborhoods, its exact requirements were vague, and therefore open to a good deal of regulatory interpretation. Banks merger or expansion plans were rarely held up under CRA until the late 1980s, when ACORN perfected its technique of filing CRA complaints in tandem with the sort of intimidation tactics perfected by that original “community organizer” (and Obama idol), Saul Alinsky.

At first, ACORN’s anti-bank actions were relatively few in number. However, under a provision of the 1989 savings and loan bailout pushed by liberal Democratic legislators, like Massachusetts Congressman Joseph P. Kennedy, lenders were required to compile public records of mortgage applicants by race, gender, and income. Although the statistics produced by these studies were presented in highly misleading ways, groups like ACORN were able to use them to embarrass banks into lowering credit standards. At the same time, a wave of banking mergers in the early 1990&#039;s provided an opening for ACORN to use CRA to force lending changes. Any merger could be blocked under CRA, and once ACORN began systematically filing protests over minority lending, a formerly toothless set of regulations began to bite.&quot;

http://tinyurl.com/4782zz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>38, Fusion, Yeah banks stay in business making risky loans all the time.  LOL.</p>
<p>Banks were forced by the way through organizations such as Acorn.</p>
<p>&#8220;Critics of the notion that CRA had a major impact on the subprime crisis ask how a law passed in 1977 could have caused a crisis in 2008? The answer has a lot to do with ACORN — and the critical years of 1990-1995. While the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act did call on banks to increase lending in poor and minority neighborhoods, its exact requirements were vague, and therefore open to a good deal of regulatory interpretation. Banks merger or expansion plans were rarely held up under CRA until the late 1980s, when ACORN perfected its technique of filing CRA complaints in tandem with the sort of intimidation tactics perfected by that original “community organizer” (and Obama idol), Saul Alinsky.</p>
<p>At first, ACORN’s anti-bank actions were relatively few in number. However, under a provision of the 1989 savings and loan bailout pushed by liberal Democratic legislators, like Massachusetts Congressman Joseph P. Kennedy, lenders were required to compile public records of mortgage applicants by race, gender, and income. Although the statistics produced by these studies were presented in highly misleading ways, groups like ACORN were able to use them to embarrass banks into lowering credit standards. At the same time, a wave of banking mergers in the early 1990&#8242;s provided an opening for ACORN to use CRA to force lending changes. Any merger could be blocked under CRA, and once ACORN began systematically filing protests over minority lending, a formerly toothless set of regulations began to bite.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/4782zz" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/4782zz' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/4782zz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1610026</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guyver,

&lt;i&gt;Good grief. The CRA made red-lining illegal because most blacks fell in the zones that were red-lined. Why? Because red-lining was one way for banks to determine risky borrowers by marking poorer / high-crime areas as off-limits. That’s not a bad way of minimizing risk.&lt;/i&gt;

Again, you don&#039;t know what you are talking about.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act#Enforcement&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Community Reinvestment Act of 1977&lt;/a&gt; seeks to address discrimination in loans made to individuals and businesses from low and moderate-income neighborhoods.[7] The Act mandates that all banking institutions that receive FDIC insurance be evaluated by Federal banking agencies to determine if the bank offers credit (in a manner consistent with safe and sound operation as per Section 802(b) and Section 804(1)) in all communities in which they are chartered to do business in.[3] The law does not list specific criteria for evaluating the performance of financial institutions. Rather, it directs that the evaluation process should accommodate the situation and context of each individual institution. Federal regulations dictate agency conduct in evaluating a bank&#039;s compliance in five performance areas, comprising twelve assessment factors. This examination culminates in a rating and a written report that becomes part of the supervisory record for that bank.[8]

The law, however, emphasizes that an institution&#039;s CRA activities should be undertaken in a safe and sound manner, and does not require institutions to make high-risk loans that may bring losses to the institution.[3][4] An institution&#039;s CRA compliance record is taken into account by the banking regulatory agencies when the institution seeks to expand through merger, acquisition or branching. The law does not mandate any other penalties for non-compliance with the CRA.[6][9]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Banks were not forced to undertake risky loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guyver,</p>
<p><i>Good grief. The CRA made red-lining illegal because most blacks fell in the zones that were red-lined. Why? Because red-lining was one way for banks to determine risky borrowers by marking poorer / high-crime areas as off-limits. That’s not a bad way of minimizing risk.</i></p>
<p>Again, you don&#8217;t know what you are talking about.</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act#Enforcement" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Community Reinvestment Act of 1977</a> seeks to address discrimination in loans made to individuals and businesses from low and moderate-income neighborhoods.[7] The Act mandates that all banking institutions that receive FDIC insurance be evaluated by Federal banking agencies to determine if the bank offers credit (in a manner consistent with safe and sound operation as per Section 802(b) and Section 804(1)) in all communities in which they are chartered to do business in.[3] The law does not list specific criteria for evaluating the performance of financial institutions. Rather, it directs that the evaluation process should accommodate the situation and context of each individual institution. Federal regulations dictate agency conduct in evaluating a bank&#8217;s compliance in five performance areas, comprising twelve assessment factors. This examination culminates in a rating and a written report that becomes part of the supervisory record for that bank.[8]</p>
<p>The law, however, emphasizes that an institution&#8217;s CRA activities should be undertaken in a safe and sound manner, and does not require institutions to make high-risk loans that may bring losses to the institution.[3][4] An institution&#8217;s CRA compliance record is taken into account by the banking regulatory agencies when the institution seeks to expand through merger, acquisition or branching. The law does not mandate any other penalties for non-compliance with the CRA.[6][9]</p></blockquote>
<p>Banks were not forced to undertake risky loans.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1610022</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guyver,

&lt;i&gt;Nor do banks like buying loans knowing that they’re likely to default either.

But somehow Bush was responsible in forcing banks to QUIETLY take toxic assets? And Democrats quietly stood by? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.&lt;/i&gt;

So the banks woke one morning last September and were shocked to discover that all those mortgages they had bought were really toxic. Yaa, riiiiiiight!!!

Who said Bush forced the banks to accept the toxic paper? That is a new one to me. I understand he forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to accept the paper being written and held by his buddies.

In case you didn&#039;t know. Fannie and Freddie don&#039;t write mortgages. They buy them from banks. The bank continues to service the loan and collect a percentage of the payments, but don&#039;t have any money tied up in them. 

Freddie Mac didn&#039;t want to accept any ARMs or Balloon mortgages under Tim Raines. That is when the White House discredited Freddie Mac&#039;s accounting procedures and forced Raines out. At the same time Barney Frank made his speech about Freddie Mac being in good shape. They were.

Bush still appointed the Chairmen and several directors of the FMs. It was through them that these toxic mortgages were passed. Congress subpoenaed the Treasury officials several times but these were ignored. (I guess you forgot how the White House didn&#039;t answer its subpoenas) So the answer to your question is NO!!! The Democrats and Republicans in Congress were unaware of what was happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guyver,</p>
<p><i>Nor do banks like buying loans knowing that they’re likely to default either.</p>
<p>But somehow Bush was responsible in forcing banks to QUIETLY take toxic assets? And Democrats quietly stood by? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.</i></p>
<p>So the banks woke one morning last September and were shocked to discover that all those mortgages they had bought were really toxic. Yaa, riiiiiiight!!!</p>
<p>Who said Bush forced the banks to accept the toxic paper? That is a new one to me. I understand he forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to accept the paper being written and held by his buddies.</p>
<p>In case you didn&#8217;t know. Fannie and Freddie don&#8217;t write mortgages. They buy them from banks. The bank continues to service the loan and collect a percentage of the payments, but don&#8217;t have any money tied up in them. </p>
<p>Freddie Mac didn&#8217;t want to accept any ARMs or Balloon mortgages under Tim Raines. That is when the White House discredited Freddie Mac&#8217;s accounting procedures and forced Raines out. At the same time Barney Frank made his speech about Freddie Mac being in good shape. They were.</p>
<p>Bush still appointed the Chairmen and several directors of the FMs. It was through them that these toxic mortgages were passed. Congress subpoenaed the Treasury officials several times but these were ignored. (I guess you forgot how the White House didn&#8217;t answer its subpoenas) So the answer to your question is NO!!! The Democrats and Republicans in Congress were unaware of what was happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1609998</link>
		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>35, Fusion, Good grief.  The CRA made red-lining illegal because most blacks fell in the zones that were red-lined.  Why?  Because red-lining was one way for banks to determine risky borrowers by marking poorer / high-crime areas as off-limits.  That&#039;s not a bad way of minimizing risk.

However, when Congress saw that home ownership was dramatically lower amongst blacks, they came up with the CRA because they believed racism was somehow the root cause of red-lining.  As I said before, the legislation was &quot;well intentioned&quot;.  I don&#039;t believe Limbaugh would say that.

What you got was a change of banks denying people loans to banks lending to people hand over fist to buy homes they couldn&#039;t afford through ARM loans.  Banks don&#039;t like making loans knowing someone is likely to default.  Nor do banks like buying loans knowing that they&#039;re likely to default either.  

But somehow Bush was responsible in forcing banks to QUIETLY take toxic assets?  And Democrats quietly stood by?  Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>35, Fusion, Good grief.  The CRA made red-lining illegal because most blacks fell in the zones that were red-lined.  Why?  Because red-lining was one way for banks to determine risky borrowers by marking poorer / high-crime areas as off-limits.  That&#8217;s not a bad way of minimizing risk.</p>
<p>However, when Congress saw that home ownership was dramatically lower amongst blacks, they came up with the CRA because they believed racism was somehow the root cause of red-lining.  As I said before, the legislation was &#8220;well intentioned&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t believe Limbaugh would say that.</p>
<p>What you got was a change of banks denying people loans to banks lending to people hand over fist to buy homes they couldn&#8217;t afford through ARM loans.  Banks don&#8217;t like making loans knowing someone is likely to default.  Nor do banks like buying loans knowing that they&#8217;re likely to default either.  </p>
<p>But somehow Bush was responsible in forcing banks to QUIETLY take toxic assets?  And Democrats quietly stood by?  Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1609863</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guyver,

You have been listening to Limbaugh too much.

&lt;i&gt;The CRA was government intervention which forced banks to lend money to risky borrowers because simply going by someone’s ability to pay was deemed racist since certain minorities in this country are disproportionately more poor than others. It’s funny how a government-created problem is somehow the fault of the greedy banks.&lt;/i&gt;

The Community Reinvestment Act did not force any bank to make a loan to any &quot;risky&quot; borrower. You simply don&#039;t even know what the CRA was about.

The CRA stopped banks from discriminatory lending practices. That meant that equal people with equal backgrounds were to be treated equally. (Mostly) blacks could not be discriminated against when they tried to borrow money from the banks that were in their neighborhoods.

Up to this point blacks could not get banks to grant mortgages even though they willing lent money to whites under similar circumstances. That caused many homes in black areas to fall into disrepair and ruin.

*

FMs were in stable shape in 2003. When Oxley and Shelby saw what the Bush Administration wanted they dropped the hearings. 

What were those proposals? To control the FMs from the White House. Even Bushes own Congress didn&#039;t want to touch his proposals to turn the mortgage giants into his personal piggy banks. Even so, through the Treasury Department and by appointing Republican Chairmen, Bush forced the FMs to accept the toxic assets being sold by the unregulated financial sector.

Here, &lt;a href=&quot;http://malonigse.blogspot.com/2009/04/yea-cher-if-i-could-turn-back-time.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;enlighten yourself.&lt;/a&gt; And quit watching Youtube for references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guyver,</p>
<p>You have been listening to Limbaugh too much.</p>
<p><i>The CRA was government intervention which forced banks to lend money to risky borrowers because simply going by someone’s ability to pay was deemed racist since certain minorities in this country are disproportionately more poor than others. It’s funny how a government-created problem is somehow the fault of the greedy banks.</i></p>
<p>The Community Reinvestment Act did not force any bank to make a loan to any &#8220;risky&#8221; borrower. You simply don&#8217;t even know what the CRA was about.</p>
<p>The CRA stopped banks from discriminatory lending practices. That meant that equal people with equal backgrounds were to be treated equally. (Mostly) blacks could not be discriminated against when they tried to borrow money from the banks that were in their neighborhoods.</p>
<p>Up to this point blacks could not get banks to grant mortgages even though they willing lent money to whites under similar circumstances. That caused many homes in black areas to fall into disrepair and ruin.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>FMs were in stable shape in 2003. When Oxley and Shelby saw what the Bush Administration wanted they dropped the hearings. </p>
<p>What were those proposals? To control the FMs from the White House. Even Bushes own Congress didn&#8217;t want to touch his proposals to turn the mortgage giants into his personal piggy banks. Even so, through the Treasury Department and by appointing Republican Chairmen, Bush forced the FMs to accept the toxic assets being sold by the unregulated financial sector.</p>
<p>Here, <a href="http://malonigse.blogspot.com/2009/04/yea-cher-if-i-could-turn-back-time.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">enlighten yourself.</a> And quit watching Youtube for references.</p>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1609673</link>
		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32, Fusion, Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac scam:  http://tinyurl.com/3nkrp7

Here&#039;s another one just for fun:  http://tinyurl.com/547gzn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32, Fusion, Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac scam:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/3nkrp7" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/3nkrp7' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/3nkrp7</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another one just for fun:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/547gzn" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/547gzn' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/547gzn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CRA was government intervention which forced banks to lend money to risky borrowers because simply going by someone&#039;s ability to pay was deemed racist since certain minorities in this country are disproportionately more poor than others.  It&#039;s funny how a government-created problem is somehow the fault of the greedy banks.  

Owning a house is NOT an entitlement.  If you can&#039;t afford one, then live in an apartment... or dare I say it?  Get a better job.

It happened under &quot;Bush&#039;s watch&quot; but he did try to fix the problems passed onto him by all previous administrations since Carter&#039;s.

11 Sep 2003:  &quot;&#039;The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago. ... 

Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

&#039;These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,&#039;&#039; said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. &#039;&#039;The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.&#039;&#039;&quot;

http://tinyurl.com/cmf3u8

Bottom line, Liberal Democrats did not want to regulate Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac because they wanted more of their target constituents to own homes they couldn&#039;t afford in order to buy more votes.

But yeah, we get it.  It&#039;s alllllllll Bush&#039;s fault.  LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CRA was government intervention which forced banks to lend money to risky borrowers because simply going by someone&#8217;s ability to pay was deemed racist since certain minorities in this country are disproportionately more poor than others.  It&#8217;s funny how a government-created problem is somehow the fault of the greedy banks.  </p>
<p>Owning a house is NOT an entitlement.  If you can&#8217;t afford one, then live in an apartment&#8230; or dare I say it?  Get a better job.</p>
<p>It happened under &#8220;Bush&#8217;s watch&#8221; but he did try to fix the problems passed onto him by all previous administrations since Carter&#8217;s.</p>
<p>11 Sep 2003:  &#8220;&#8216;The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago. &#8230; </p>
<p>Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.</p>
<p>&#8216;These two entities &#8212; Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac &#8212; are not facing any kind of financial crisis,&#8221; said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. &#8221;The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.&#8221;&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/cmf3u8" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/cmf3u8' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/cmf3u8</a></p>
<p>Bottom line, Liberal Democrats did not want to regulate Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac because they wanted more of their target constituents to own homes they couldn&#8217;t afford in order to buy more votes.</p>
<p>But yeah, we get it.  It&#8217;s alllllllll Bush&#8217;s fault.  LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1609628</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29, guyver,

&lt;i&gt;Bush tried to push for audits of Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac back in 2002/2003 but Democrats cited this would reduce home ownership amongst minorities so they didn’t want to pursue that. The Community Reinvestment Act was flawed but well-intentioned which led up to the housing market disaster.&lt;/i&gt;

Bullcrap!!! Bush didn&#039;t want and didn&#039;t try to &quot;audit&quot; the FMs. He ended up making them eat the toxic paper the banks were buying in 2006. He also tried to further remove Congress from the regulatory oversight of Fanny and Freddie. The Republican Committee Chairmen saw the plan and buried the legislation in 2004.

It wasn&#039;t the Community Reinvestment Act that caused the problem. It was the massive fraud by mortgage salesmen and banks AND the loss of jobs overseas. All of which occurred on Bushes watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29, guyver,</p>
<p><i>Bush tried to push for audits of Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac back in 2002/2003 but Democrats cited this would reduce home ownership amongst minorities so they didn’t want to pursue that. The Community Reinvestment Act was flawed but well-intentioned which led up to the housing market disaster.</i></p>
<p>Bullcrap!!! Bush didn&#8217;t want and didn&#8217;t try to &#8220;audit&#8221; the FMs. He ended up making them eat the toxic paper the banks were buying in 2006. He also tried to further remove Congress from the regulatory oversight of Fanny and Freddie. The Republican Committee Chairmen saw the plan and buried the legislation in 2004.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t the Community Reinvestment Act that caused the problem. It was the massive fraud by mortgage salesmen and banks AND the loss of jobs overseas. All of which occurred on Bushes watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Patso</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1609615</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Patso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow! How touchy people have become! As Foghorn Leghorn might say, &quot;It&#039;s a, I say, it&#039;s a joke, son!&quot; Yet already we have disgusting name-calling, invocation of the Community Reinvestment Act (surely soon to be followed by the SEIU, ACORN and Bill Ayers), &quot;Democrats have had control of Congress since 2006&quot; (look at them trying to do something about health care -- can you honestly claim _anybody_ controls that group?). The Reactionary-American community is still super-upset that President Obama continues 
all that annoying breathing in, and out, and in, and out...

Get over it -- it&#039;s a joke, people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow! How touchy people have become! As Foghorn Leghorn might say, &#8220;It&#8217;s a, I say, it&#8217;s a joke, son!&#8221; Yet already we have disgusting name-calling, invocation of the Community Reinvestment Act (surely soon to be followed by the SEIU, ACORN and Bill Ayers), &#8220;Democrats have had control of Congress since 2006&#8243; (look at them trying to do something about health care &#8212; can you honestly claim _anybody_ controls that group?). The Reactionary-American community is still super-upset that President Obama continues<br />
all that annoying breathing in, and out, and in, and out&#8230;</p>
<p>Get over it &#8212; it&#8217;s a joke, people!</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1609553</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 Wow! Your momma let you out the basement. I gotta call her fast to either mend her mistake or lock you back in in case you sneaked out.

#27 Why do you still think is about left &amp; right?

#28 Precisely! You&#039;re on the right track. Now, when will you visit your psychia... er optometrist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 Wow! Your momma let you out the basement. I gotta call her fast to either mend her mistake or lock you back in in case you sneaked out.</p>
<p>#27 Why do you still think is about left &amp; right?</p>
<p>#28 Precisely! You&#8217;re on the right track. Now, when will you visit your psychia&#8230; er optometrist?</p>
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		<title>By: Guyver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1609545</link>
		<dc:creator>Guyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>22, So what you mean is you pay off debts with more debts?  Wow!  Hope and change we can believe in.  LOL.  Democrats have had control of Congress since 2006.  Not sure what you mean by &quot;Conservative&quot; disaster.  You might be shocked to know that the House holds the purse strings and not the President.

That being said, Bush tried to push for audits of Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac back in 2002/2003 but Democrats cited this would reduce home ownership amongst minorities so they didn&#039;t want to pursue that.  The Community Reinvestment Act was flawed but well-intentioned which led up to the housing market disaster.

How about not ending the Iraq War?  Many Democrats ran on promises to end the war.  Congress only needs to kill funding to end it.... but instead Liberals somehow blame Bush for something Constitutionally in Congress&#039; power to end. Like I said before, Liberals don&#039;t like to take responsibility for their own actions and would rather blame Bush.   

BTW, Black Hawk Down was a disaster under the Clinton Administration.  It&#039;s one of many reasons why most military folk typically don&#039;t like Clinton.

Oh, as for Health Care &quot;reform&quot; the Democrats originally had the votes before they did the townhall meetings.  After things backfired, they&#039;re now realizing that they may be losing seats in Congress in 2010.  So instead of having transparent talks on C-Span or inviting Republicans over to make this a bipartisan effort, the liberals are doing things behind closed doors, not inviting bipartisan efforts, and ignoring calls and letters from concerned constituents.

Real hope and change starts in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>22, So what you mean is you pay off debts with more debts?  Wow!  Hope and change we can believe in.  LOL.  Democrats have had control of Congress since 2006.  Not sure what you mean by &#8220;Conservative&#8221; disaster.  You might be shocked to know that the House holds the purse strings and not the President.</p>
<p>That being said, Bush tried to push for audits of Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac back in 2002/2003 but Democrats cited this would reduce home ownership amongst minorities so they didn&#8217;t want to pursue that.  The Community Reinvestment Act was flawed but well-intentioned which led up to the housing market disaster.</p>
<p>How about not ending the Iraq War?  Many Democrats ran on promises to end the war.  Congress only needs to kill funding to end it&#8230;. but instead Liberals somehow blame Bush for something Constitutionally in Congress&#8217; power to end. Like I said before, Liberals don&#8217;t like to take responsibility for their own actions and would rather blame Bush.   </p>
<p>BTW, Black Hawk Down was a disaster under the Clinton Administration.  It&#8217;s one of many reasons why most military folk typically don&#8217;t like Clinton.</p>
<p>Oh, as for Health Care &#8220;reform&#8221; the Democrats originally had the votes before they did the townhall meetings.  After things backfired, they&#8217;re now realizing that they may be losing seats in Congress in 2010.  So instead of having transparent talks on C-Span or inviting Republicans over to make this a bipartisan effort, the liberals are doing things behind closed doors, not inviting bipartisan efforts, and ignoring calls and letters from concerned constituents.</p>
<p>Real hope and change starts in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Phydeau</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1609518</link>
		<dc:creator>Phydeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 There is none so blind as he who will not see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 There is none so blind as he who will not see.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/12/07/school-supplier-pulls-politically-based-products/comment-page-2/#comment-1609513</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me see if I got this right. A company has a pencil and notebook machines in schools. The logo on their pencils resembles the Obama logo from the 2008 election. The Obama logo is a stylized version of the American flag. So in reality the pencils are just another (of many) stylized version of the flag. So by criticizing these pencils, they are actually criticizing the American flag.  

Why do the right hate America?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me see if I got this right. A company has a pencil and notebook machines in schools. The logo on their pencils resembles the Obama logo from the 2008 election. The Obama logo is a stylized version of the American flag. So in reality the pencils are just another (of many) stylized version of the flag. So by criticizing these pencils, they are actually criticizing the American flag.  </p>
<p>Why do the right hate America?</p>
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