Obamaforever says:

From: Obamaforever

To: chris (aka the Church Lady)

per #39

I like most of your post even though it was
‘pie in the sky’.

What I did not like was the first part, Church Lady.

Church Lady, you can apologize to the King of
the Retards. Just do not do it in my name, please!!

LibertyLover says:

#41, Wow, those numbers are high.

Now, can you find out how much those companies made gross and net?

I’ll give you a hint — the salaries are less than 1% of the profits and the profits are about 5% of the gross.

LibertyLover says:

#45, Since the majority of the health care costs in this country are paid by insurance companies, I would say close to $2.26 trillion in 2007 alone.

Just to give you an idea how many zeroes that is:

2,260,000,000,000 <– Total Expenditure
123,899,190 <– Total Salaries (from above)

Those salaries accounted for 0.0055% of total HC expenditures.

Hell, I don't even buy lottery tickets and my percent chance of winning is higher than their salary percentages.

LibertyLover says:

#47, I would have answered in a somewhat reasonable fashion had you initiated first contact with me in a more respectful manner.

Do you wish to try again?

Obamaforever says:

From: Obamaforever

To: LibertLover (aka my feelings are easily hurt or pry my dead cold fingers or goofus)

I see that you do not have a comeback!!!

I am “sorry” that the above is expressed
in a disrespectful manner. I will lose, maybe
at most, a second of sleep!!!!!!

bye, fingers

LibertyLover says:

#49, Then why ask how much of it went toward it? The insurance companies paid for it, thus they facilitated it.

We may not like HOW they do it or how much they charge to do it, but they did do it.

Uncle Patso says:

# 32 Obamaforever:
“[...] You may have wondered why you have not heard much from the insurance companies. [...]”

Oh, but we have; they’ve been spending ten million dollars a week fighting this since about October. TEN MILLION DOLLARS A WEEK. That buys a LOT of PR, not to mention lobbyists, lobbyists and more lobbyists, fake grass roots organizations, newsletters, alarmist web sites, “motivational” speakers, blogs, gossip, rumors, columns, chain emails, talk radio callers, talk radio hosts, TV “newsmen”, “evangelists”, commentators, pundits, perhaps even the occasional senator or representative.

I’d say about half of what appears parroted in the comments section of this blog was originally commissioned by that ten million dollars a week…

= = = = =

# 54 Thomas:
“[...] So, are you saying that a government run agency wouldn’t try to reduce cost or increase funding? If they have no competition, what is their incentive to provide better service?”

Populist politicians will get all up in their business otherwise!

Mr. Fusion says:

#52, Loser,

#49, Then why ask how much of it went toward it? The insurance companies paid for it, thus they facilitated it.

You missed quite a lot there. First, the insurance companies handle about 1/3 of all medical payments. Medicare and Medicaid, VA, cooperatives, free care, co-payments, and patient paid make up the rest.

You want to discuss your “Death Panels”? The California Nurses Association did a study to find that a 22% of insured patients were denied coverage by their carrier. The highest at almost 40% of submitted claims.

Insurance payouts equal as little as 65% of premiums. That 35% is called overhead and is eaten up by denying care to their customers. In contrast, Ontario Canada provincial health plan spends in the order of <1% on overhead. No one is denied and Ontario's citizens don't want to exchange their health care for the American style.

LibertyLover says:

#58, Quit changing the subject when you talk to me.

Why would you sacrifice others to save your wife?