Jesse Ventura’s new show: Conspiracy Theory

Published on December 19th, 2009

Posted by Cherman in Scams, Video, science

This episode is about global warming. Here are parts 2, 3 and 4.

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# 1 Father said, on December 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

Great work C!

# 2 freddybobs68k said, on December 19th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

Amusing for all the wrong reasons. It’s by the numbers ham-fisted propaganda.

# 3 What the...? said, on December 19th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

Holy crap! I was really looking forward to seeing this…and then it started. This is such mainstream schlock it’s unwatchable. Which is surprising since it’s Jesse Ventura here. But the over-the-top music and extreme (laughable even) melodrama is spread as thick as anything you’d see on CSI.

Can’t anybody just report the news without making it out to be some sort of action thriller?

C’mon Jesse, don’t become what you used to deride.

# 4 KMFIX said, on December 19th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

BODY SLAM!

# 5 bobbo, how do you know what you know and how do you change your mind said, on December 19th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

Yep, unwatchable. Scientific inquiry is not advanced by pop culture hyping.

Its a given in our society, perhaps all societies, that “any” issue will get the flim-flam treatment by every quick buck artist that has access to stupid people with money, or government in general.

THAT has nothing to do with the science–it varies independently from the concomitant fraud.

QUESTION: to anyone who sits thru the show==do they confront the science? Which part at what time?

thanks.

# 6 Father said, on December 19th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

The schlock is needed to reach the mainstream viewer.

I’ve been watching a lot of TV lately, and if the number of, and content of those “Hollywood” gossip shows is any indication, this schlock is now required to tell any story. Even the national news is full of schlocky computer graphics.

# 7 Carcarius said, on December 19th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

It’s called TV entertainment. Anything that hopefully gets people thinking is a good thing. Ham-fisted, over-the-top… whatever. Look at it objectively and decide for yourself if the connections they draw have merit, or don’t watch the show. What they are doing no worse than what they do on the “History” channel. Jesse’s a badass!

I watched the episode about 9/11 and they had a guy who knew flight operators who said that the black boxes of the planes contained proof that the hijackers were in the cockpit before the planes even took off, with the implication that there was no resistance in getting into the cockpit and getting clearance for takeoff.

# 8 honeyman said, on December 19th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

Man that was dreadful.

# 9 User7 said, on December 19th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

Hearing Jesse Ventura on Howard Stern inspired me to read his book which was kind of a let down. I like his question the government attitude but every other chapter in the book was mostly patting himself on the back. Still I was looking forward to this show, but the over the top melodrama has turned me off. I guess once a wrestler always a wrestler.

# 10 Faxon said, on December 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

The people will wake up when Judge Judy exposes this Global Warming scam. Until then, we can do without this crap.

# 11 What the...? said, on December 19th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

Jesse is a badass. I think he’s great, but as long as shows like this continue to treat the watcher like a 9 year old then the more people will continue to devolve into 9 year olds.

You want an educated, informed and overall educated and inquisitive population? Then don’t serve them crap like this. Treat them like adults who want to know the truth and they just might start rising to that level.

The lowest common denominator isn’t something to strive for.

BTW, it’s just my opinion, but a great example of informative reporting for adults is Frontline. News for dummies doesn’t have to be the norm.

# 12 Marc Perkel said, on December 19th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

Jesse Ventura once said that Christians were “weak minded”. I guess he’s cashing in on that, and they are cashing in on him. He’s just another sell out.

# 13 Buzz said, on December 19th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

Great job Cherman. Once again you have managed to throw the issue under the bus. With guys like you watching out for us, chlorophyl is doomed.

# 14 AdmFubar said, on December 19th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

the guy off jessie’s right look like a face lifted charles nelson riley

# 15 jccalhoun said, on December 19th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

Thank goodness. I was starting to worry that we might go a whole day without an anti-global warming story posted on dvorak.org/blog…

# 16 Zybch said, on December 19th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

#12 So? He is absolutely right.

# 17 JimR said, on December 19th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

Well, this isn’t as flashy and full of crap as “An Inconvenient Truth”, but hey, what’s good for the goose….

# 18 qb said, on December 19th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

#5 bobbo, read this paper ‘You and Your Research‘ by Richard Hamming. It’s good for the other side of your brain.

“But most great scientists are well aware of why their theories are true and they are also well aware of some slight misfits which don’t quite fit and they don’t forget it. Darwin writes in his autobiography that he found it necessary to write down every piece of evidence which appeared to contradict his beliefs because otherwise they would disappear from his mind. When you find apparent flaws you’ve got to be sensitive and keep track of those things, and keep an eye out for how they can be explained or how the theory can be changed to fit them.”

# 19 Mark T. said, on December 19th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

Gotta love Jesse Ventura! I hope he runs for the presidency in 2012.

I have been saying that AGW is about money, power, and control for a very long time. This show was a little “over-produced” but, hey, that is what it takes to get people to watch this kind of stuff these days. This is aimed at average people, not the talking heads set.

# 20 KneeJerk Optimist said, on December 19th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

I saw JV give a talk on CSPAN promoting his book, and I was impressed with how astute he seemed to be (for a show biz wrestler).

Now this… look, people who see conspiracies going on everywhere don’t understand how dumb human beings can be, i.e. if some ’secret’ cabal tries to pull the wool over everybody’s eyes they also have to contend with keeping the big secret, not to mention the possibility of someone in their organization saying to themselves, “Hey, if I expose this to the media, I could set it up to sell the story and put my kids through college, or at least put in a new swimming pool”.

# 21 Mark T. said, on December 19th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

KneeJerk Optimist,

I think you are assuming that whistle blowers are out to make a fast buck. From my experience, whistle blowers are driven by their conscience and not their pocketbook.

Very few whistle blowers get rewarded (or even thanked). Many, if not most, lose their jobs, are persecuted, and are often sued for slander.

I think that there is a very good chance that the “hacker” that stole the emails from the University of East Anglia climate research computer database was an insider. If you notice, no one to date has claimed responsibility for releasing those emails. That is very unusual for a computer hacker. Most hackers use an anonymous handle anyways and they love to brag to their hacker buddies about what they have accomplished.

There is a very high likelihood that this “hacker” is actually a whistle blower that knows that there are shenanigans afoot. They likely did not “hack” into the computers from outside but rather just copied the files to a flash drive or CD-ROM, or some other means.

No one has “put in a new swimming pool” over this. Only the politicians and power brokers that stood to gain power, prestige, control, and/or revenue have lost anything on this.

# 22 KneeJerk Optimist said, on December 19th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

Very good, Mark. You might be right about what you say, but I’m just pointing out the fallacy of what just looks to me like simple paranoia in a lot of well known people who may actually be just charismatic phonies when all is said and done.

# 23 JimR said, on December 19th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

qb, although not directed at moi, thanks for posting Richard Hamming’s Bell seminar. I’m passing it on to my son. It was an interesting read.

# 24 Animby said, on December 19th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

Sorry. Watched his first show on HAARP and couldn’t believe how poorly the show was put together. How artificial the confrontation was and how dumb Ventura seemed. I will not subject myself to more.

He was a great wrestler, a mediocre governor and is now showing he’s a failure at schlock TV. Whoever (above) said he hoped the man would run for Prez, well you’re just out of your mind or trying to be sardonic. I pray the latter.

# 25 Awake said, on December 19th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

Now for some more intelligent info:

Hey… it even includes John’s favorite charts showing periodicity of climate change!

# 26 Mark T. said, on December 19th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

Sorry, Awake, the 70’s still sucked.

As for your vid link, I find it hard to take any documentarian seriously that uses the movie “Soylent Green” as part of their scientific argument for AGW. Or in a 1958 Bell Telephone Science Hour newsreel predicting that Miami’s tallest skyscrapers would be 150 feet underwater. How high have sea levels in Miami risen? Maybe an inch? Tops? Waterworld it ain’t. It’s all bunk.

There is no crisis. This is all Chicken Little politics. We are not going to die in a biblical flood. We won’t even get our socks wet. This is all part of the planet’s natural reaction to the sun’s natural solar cycles. Get over it.

This vid of yours just shows that the Chicken Little alarmists have been around for decades, if not centuries, and time has shown them to be totally inaccurate if not flat out wrong.

Oh, as for Svante Arrhenius, he was born in 1854. If you think his 19th century CO2 predictions were prognosticative then you suggest that you also look into the predictions of Nostradamus. They probably have a lot in common.

# 27 deowll said, on December 19th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

While the show failed to actually produce any real proof other than the obvious fact that many leading alarmist are making big bucks and stand to make huge fortunes off the anti-carbon movement, I have actually been digging on the net and others better informed than I am have provided the proof that Jesse’s basic claim is correct. Man made global warming is now 95% scare tactics by people intent on making money and gaining power.

The claim is backed up by the the British emails and the data out of Russia on what was done by the Brits with the Russian data is more than enough proof that the man made climate change crowd are devoted to suppressing any data that goes against their agenda and ….”managing” the rest so that it shows what they want it to show and the reason has to be money/power unless somebody can prove someone can get laid out of this. ?8^)

It is true that the CO2 increase does have very some modest impact on temperatures but nothing to have a cow about. It certainly isn’t enough to negate the current cooler trend.

The other big issue is that the upper atmospheric clouds that are supposed to trap heat in the upper atmosphere as the planet warms don’t appear to be a real threat. The upper atmospheric clouds sink of their own weight and the upper layer of the atmosphere remains cool failing to trap the earth’s heat as the scare mongers claimed they would. That is based on recent satellite data.

Yeah I know I should have provided links but many of the best links have already been posted on this site if you guys have been willing to follow them.

# 28 deowll said, on December 20th, 2009 at 12:06 am

#18 Thanks for the link. It appears that if you want to do big science first you need big money. In order to get that you need a big problem. I guess we all knew that.

However once you have found a big problem and big funding it is obviously going to rather painful shall we say to publish data that suggests the big problem is in fact a little one and that we need to move on to other projects.

If you do that your status and your funding will both go away so the temptation is going to be obvious to keep the gravy train rolling into your lab as long as you can find a way to do it. I think this is exactly what has happened with the man made global warming crowd.

If you look hard there is more than enough evidence now on hand to suggest man made global warming is not a major or even a minor problem though of course pollution still is.

The problem is if you are a climatologist whose career is based on doing research on global warming there is no golden parachute nor easy way to transfer over to something else making the same kind of money with the same level of perks. What are you supposed to do? Start working on the need to recycle plastics in order to save the oceans?

I’d say their best bet is to try and get a scare going about CO2 causing the oceans to go acid and everything is going to die never mind if its true or not.

# 29 Zbguy said, on December 20th, 2009 at 1:39 am

Very interesting program, very important topic and good revelations. The dramaturgy is however HOPELESS! Such an important issue gets ridiculed by the Cloak & Dagger style drama. Too bad.

# 30 BertDawg said, on December 20th, 2009 at 6:03 am

The simplest answer to all this horseshit is TIME. Don’t do anything irrevocable, and PAY ATTENTION. Simply wait and let time show us the truth. When the planet fails to warm, when the oceans fail to rise, when famine fails to overtake the world, etc., the truth will gradually become undeniable, even to the mental midgets. When the planet, in fact, continues to get colder, it will be interesting to see what new hysteria we’ll be handed.

# 31 BertDawg said, on December 20th, 2009 at 6:12 am

Critics of Jesse Ventura and the overly theatrical style which unfortunately does detract from the message are conveniently overlooking the most salient point of the whole endeavor. Human nature being what it is, you REALLY CAN get to the bottom of things by following the money and power. History is bursting at the seams with examples of this and yet, lemmings that we are, we fall for it every time.

# 32 pedro said, on December 20th, 2009 at 6:23 am

In order to convince sheeple, you gotta talk like them.

# 33 bobbo, how do you know what you know and how do you change your mind said, on December 20th, 2009 at 7:22 am

i8–qb==yes, thanks for the link. I think you truncated the MOST important idea of the scientific achiever though, in the first few sentences you left out:

“Great scientists tolerate ambiguity very well. They believe the theory enough to go ahead; they doubt it enough to notice the errors and faults so they can step forward and create the new replacement theory. If you believe too much you’ll never notice the flaws; if you doubt too much you won’t get started. It requires a lovely balance.”

And that might be another personality characteristic of conservatives vs liberal wherein conservatives “tend” to form conclusions that ignore the little nuances. Can there be great conservative scientists???

Your article says “NO!” and I agree. It also is another demonstration of why our politics fails. The demonization of the nuanced approached, liberals fail this as well, but the great liberals like the great scientists have more of this than the rest of us.

Very related, I think your articles main question: “Why do so few scientists make significant contributions and so many are forgotten in the long run?” went totally unanswered or at best answered incorrectly. It is mostly luck. Of course, one has to will themselves to make the effort, but every failure did that as well and they are forgotten. Einstein willed himself to think about light but the consequences of that inquiry is luck. Like Darwin, luck that that other guy didn’t get the nod instead of Darwin and I suspect that the great majority of scientific reputation is based on the luck of who gets the nod. Like the discovery of dna. Lots of people involved in that but Crick gets the nod. Same with transistors and on and on.

Keep the good stuff coming.

# 34 Animby said, on December 20th, 2009 at 8:13 am

#30 BertDawg – You’re right. The simplest thing to do right now is wait, slow down and do the science transparently and make a sober decision. But, if we do that, there are a lot of people who aren’t going to make the fortunes they are anticipating. As was said above: follow the money. You’ll find Al Gore positioned to make billions of dollars. When asked about his investments, he answered to the effect: I’d be silly not to. He doesn’t see any conflict, at all. The earth science is so confused right now. But. more importantly, the AGW crew are simply ignoring other science. Solar activity. Is it affecting our climate? I think probably. AGWers say poo. Don’;t be silly. It’s all the SUVs and cow farts. I’ve read reports there is evidence of concurrent warming on other planets! This would seem to me to be damning evidence against an anthropogenic effect. But nobody’s following up. We’re in a headlong rush to make a new crop of billionaires and science and reality be damned.

# 35 sproketstevens said, on December 20th, 2009 at 10:01 am

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/24/a-comphrehensive-comparison-of-giss-and-uah-global-temperature-data/

Heres a link to the weather data link North Pole it shows a steady increase in temperature.
It shows a yearly increase in temperature. There is also the other evidence of carbon soot in the top layer of ice from smog,photographic comparisons , sat photos eye witness testimony,ice cores etc.
Concurrent yet unconnected reports from Greenland and every other station that is keeping track of glacier melt.
So its a hoax Huh? They all got together to make this data up?
I just like to know whos paying you to keep this red herring up?

# 36 LibertyLover said, on December 20th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

#35, So its a hoax Huh? They all got together to make this data up? I just like to know whos paying you to keep this red herring up?

The hoax is it is man-made and that we can do something about it.

# 37 amodedoma said, on December 20th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

Anybody remember In search of, or Unexplained Mysteries, or Arthur C. Clarke’s Mysterious World, it’s a format that works, all became classics. Somehow I don’t think Jesse’s gonna last very long.

# 38 qb said, on December 20th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

#35 sproketstevens

Don’t bring reliable data into this, that’s just silly. Use data starting from when Noah left the Ark.

# 39 deowll said, on December 20th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

#34 Look up the little ice age. There is plenty of evidence that very minor changes in solar output can make a huge difference in what goes on with climate and yes when the Earth was warming so was Mars.

# 40 honeyman said, on December 20th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

#37 amodedoma

I loved ‘In Search Of’ when I was a kid. Cant beat the Leonard Nimoy narration.

Jesse ain’t no Leonard Nimoy.

# 41 deowll said, on December 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

For those who care the rule seems to be low sunspot activity equals a cooler Earth or at least during the little ice age there was very little sunspot activity and lot of people froze/starved to death while sea ice extended south of Iceland.

This link is the most current I found on the topic: http://sidc.oma.be/news/119/welcome.html

My climate forecast based on this would be cooler than normal.

# 42 zed said, on January 4th, 2010 at 11:35 pm

my dad is a scentist.

global warming is real, whether is man made is still inconclusive..

the earth warms and cools

did people for get we are in a warming period?

we are coming out of an “ice-age” so expect this to happen.. expect things to get worse hotter summers colder winters..

the “science” some of you say is in and the debate is over… you people are scary.. the debate is never over.. science is improving everyday.. Science of today is proved wrong tomorrow.

so don’t commit your life to this issue accept in the way that there is a natural warming trend going on .. and we can’t see the future . but its happening so slowly that all these stupid predictions 10 years or 50 to 100 years down the road are ridiculous.. Earth NEVER works that fast..

and if you can find the real research on this you will see this GW movement started in the 60’s.. rumored to be the 1st followers where the hippies who lived outside.. lol they had one super cold winter and Global warming movement started.

i believe we should put money into make clean energy affordable..

but you will crash this economy and put so many more people out of work it would be like Armageddon..

also we can control the weather to a point.. we can make it rain in semi large area’s by releasing chemicals into the air.. this has been done..

there are some serious idea’s about getting rid of carbon emissions..

but all of you people out there ready to vote for or endorse any amount of money any new major world control, Cap and trade.

YOU ARE SADLY IGNORANT..

you cannot trust world Governments that much let alone your own..

if you think the world is just trying to save it self with cap and trade you so DUMB.. lol rich polluting company’s will have to by the right to pollute all they want from third world countries.

so the rich paluting companys will still palute at the same time raseing there prices to buy the carbon credits whihc allow them to pallute.. whihc menas raiseing the price on you and your gas energy bills and much more.. anything that invovles shippping of products (EVERYTHING) price will go up. so the rich paluters won’t lose a dime palute more by sending your money to a thrid world country “to help them make jobs and grow”.

but these other country’s aren’t free market.. there like Venezuela where Sezar shaves uses his plants like his person piggy bank.. lol so make other world dictators richer, all while making are company’s richer and our leaders rich, all well the world keeps getting warmer! BECAUSE It’s A NATURAL PROCESS!!

GW does exists and maybe our industrial revolution is speeding it up … but we don’t know that for sure..

but reducing pollution is number 1.. reducing carbon emissions needs to happen.. the movement to clean energy is on its way.. its just not time yet to change the worlds economy’s off oil YET.. it will happen one day and it will happen in parallel with our economy and will help the economy instead of taxing the hell out of people!!

please Do not believe everything straight out hands down unless you know you have heard both sides.. and i bet yo have not heard a good argument on both sides of GW because they have been shut up .. and to shut up all the opposition there has to be big money involved..

Copenhagen was a summit of people with there hand out reaching for Obama asking for America’s money!

we don’t have money people!! we are broke we are in debt.

lol we saved 250 billion on tarp? oh we didn’t spend all the money we borrowed from china.. doesn’t mean that 250 billion is our money.. that needs to go right back to China to get the massive Debt Down..

you can make fun of my typing skills..

but i know the Facts and the theory’s on Global warming.. people are getting ahead of the facts so much it’s now become scary.

# 43 zedy said, on January 4th, 2010 at 11:44 pm

i wrote this really fast.. i apologize for the errors.. i didn’t spell check or re-read what i wrote.. my dad who works as a scientist for the Gov.. has been told by his boss to tone down his reports..

that’s a much bigger threat then you would think.

anyway we talk everyday about it.. i learn how and why it’s possible we could be causing the warming process to speed up.. but we don’t have any clue how fast..

the recorded records of weather go back only 130 years.. then its up to our non specific ways of getting the past on record.

if anything before the last 130 years is called fact.. that’s BS..

any good scientist never accepts anything that’s not completely conclusive.

# 44 Crystall said, on January 13th, 2010 at 1:36 am

I really think you need to listen to him. If you get thhe chance there are two books you can read. Secrets and Lies by David Southwell and Spychips…………..what he is saying is true.

# 45 mavis o'shields said, on January 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

FOR ALL YOU PESSIMISTS OUT THERE….CONCERNING JESSE VENTURA! YOU HAD ALL BETTER WISE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE TO DO SO OR WE WILL ALL BE BENDING OVER AND KISSING OUR BUTTS GOOD-BYE!
I HAVE BEEN DOING RESEARCH FOR YEARS OVER THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT ARE ALIVE AND WELL IN THIS COUNTRY AND, I AM HERE TO TELL YOU! NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OF JESSE VENTURA AS A PERSON, WRESTLER OR GOVERNOR! GET OVER IT AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE MAN HAS TO SAY! HE IS WALKING ON DANGEROUS GROUND EXPOSING OUR GOVERNMENT FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS AND IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT….WHY IS HIS SHOW UNAVAILABLE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT!!?? IT USUALLY AIRS AT 9 OR 10 PM EST AND WE CHECKED THIS EVENING AND IT IS NOT THERE!!??
REMEBER! HISTORY ALWAYS REPEATS ITSELF! IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME, THEN….JUST OPEN UP YOUR BIBLES AND DELVE INTO THE PROPHESIES OF THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT DEFINITELY CAME TRUE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT!
IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOURSELVES, YOUR FAMILIES, YOUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD IN GENERAL….YOU WILL BE SMART ENOUGH TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! IT IS OUT THERE!
I AM A 67 YEAR OLD WIDOW AND I FOUND SO MUCH STUFF THAT IT MAKES MY HAIR STAND ON END!!
BEFORE CRITICIZING JV, USE YOUR OWN BRAIN AND MIND AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!
THIS IS SOME SERIOUS STUFF! THIS IS NOT A JOKE!
MY PRAYERS ARE FOR ALL OF US BUT ESPECIALLY FOR THE PESSIMISTS OF THIS COUNTRY!
THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BY THE BLOOD, SWEAT, TEARS AND HARD WORK OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SETTLED INTO THE NEW WORLD! IF YOU WOULD LIKE A REMINDER OF WHAT OUR COUNTRY IS SUPPOSED TO STAND FOR, WATCH THE OLD MOVIE “DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK.”
RE-EVALUATE YOUR POSITION, ARM YOURSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE AND THEN MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION ABOUT THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT ABOUND IN THIS COUNTRY!
MAY GOD BE WITH US ALL!!!!!!!!

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