Ben Stein: If You’re Against Occupying the Middle East, You’re Anti-Semitic

Published on December 28th, 2009

Posted by Jacob Galt in Politics, Scams, Video, humor, international

I wish the congressman would have said f you, Stein.

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# 1 Billy Bob said, on December 28th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

Isn’t this the same Ben Stein who made that wacky creationism movie and pounded the table for everyone to buy Merill Lynch stock before it imploded? Why does anyone interview him?

Bueller? Bueller?

# 2 Crazy Smart said, on December 28th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

Ben Stein is crazy. He always has been. Kind funny in Ferris Beuller, but just nutty. He’s one of those magical creationist crusaders.

I don’t consider ANY of the gods of the middle east religions to be real, so I have no sides in this crazy fight over who owns that land. To me it’s just land and a political fight. Each side tries to claim some moral superiority because their “god” is on their side. But to me it’s just angry people with guns and bombs, all of whom want to control a tiny chunk of land. Hey Israel, give back the West Bank, that isn’t your land, you “took it” like China took Tibet and Iraq tried to take Kuwait, both claiming it was their historical land. Whatever. You’re still stealing it. And hey Palestinians, killing civilians to show your anger over this fight ain’t helping your cause either. Both sides seem like petulant children and none of them deserve the land. I wish an asteroid would just hit and take out that whole region.

# 3 raster said, on December 28th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

Why does anybody care about Ben Stein?

Failed actor, dumb game show host, sellout pitchman, unabashed tool and fool.

Did I leave anything out?

# 4 Reverse Engineer said, on December 28th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

That pretty much sums it up – I would only add that Ben Stein is a Grade-A douchebag.

# 5 Father said, on December 28th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

Stein is right that the government doesn’t take security seriously. One only has to travel to Israel to see how a professional security staff works (but the Israelies are still not perfect).

War is a struggle started by those that feel weak against their insecurities. War is a process that empowers the weak (and apparently the USA feels very weak at the moment).

# 6 rectagon said, on December 28th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

Creationist crusader? Did any of you actually watch the movie? While it’s an ID crusade, sure (by a Jew) it definitely not creationist fodder.

# 7 Thomas said, on December 28th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

#6
> While it’s an
> ID crusade, sure
> (by a Jew) it
> definitely not
> creationist fodder.

You are absolutely right. Creationism is the very essence of fodder so calling something creationist fodder would be redundant.

# 8 David said, on December 28th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

Rep. Paul is right that we should offer private contractors a chance to compete with government agencies. Security contractors could be audited to ensure standards are met and dismissed otherwise. Current security provided by the expensive, ineffective US government bureaucracy is simply incapable of keeping us safe.

# 9 sargasso said, on December 28th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

#8. Whatever planet you’re on, sounds nice.

# 10 Glenn E. said, on December 28th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

Frankly Ben Stein impresses me as a very intelligent person. Maybe not as much as Einstein. And very likely maligned by the political elite. So don’t judge him by a few Tv and movie appearances. And that movie that you’re all crowing about, is not about Creationism. It’s an argument for giving equal time to the Intelligent Design model of origins. As the Evolutionary model gets in education systems. And he’s not alone in this, as the movie “Expelled” demonstrates. But it seems that mostly everyone who dares to support any alternatives to Darwin, faces immediate loss of their position. Even tenure does save them. When it saves all other lone academics, whose theories or politics, casts doubt on their sanity. Which seems to suggest that the Darwinist crowd functions as a kind of academic cabal. Concerned more with weeding out the “unbelievers”, than patching some rather huge cracks in their revered origins model. Security by obscurity.

BTW, Darwin’s “Origin of the Species” is not a “theory”. Elevating a model or hypothesis to the level of a theory, without providing any experimental method to prove it. Is simple PR propaganda. It’s like saying “My hypothesis is that the moon is made of cheese. And I’ve gotten a number of folks to agree, to the point where it’s commonly accepted. And since nobody can get there to test this. I declare it a theory, in the absence of any practical provability.”

Especially if there are a number of anti-cheese moon fanatics, coming up with their own plausible explanation. It’s always a power struggle. Whether it’s the Church vs Galileo. Or Evolutionists vs Creationists. Who ever managed to get the high ground first, backing whatever world view horse they chose. They don’t want to lose the slightest bit of power to any comers. Even if they could be right. Or at least, equally valid.

The current battle of the “we got here first” crowd. Are the Global Warming environmentalist fanatics. Who see this as more of a Prohibition movement, to clean up everything bad. Even if it’s based on shabby science and falsified data. It’s a cause, that they’re championing, and possibly making a profitable career from. And once they got the numbers in their favor. It became a propaganda war, with them against all doubters or “deniers”. As if skepticism was a crime now. Every time a GW advocate speaks, they invariably use the phrase “we believe” or “it’s believed”, to replace the solid climate data they don’t have, to support their cause. And it’s not the only time I’ve heard “believe” used by scientists, to fill in for solid evidence.

# 11 Father said, on December 28th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

David (#8), you have never worked with government contractors have you?

Contracted services that the military purchased has been a complete disaster IMHO. Contractors have relatively no disipline, are motivated by greed, and have substandard skills (generally are poorly trained (training costs money; so contractors claim their people are already trained), and languish in poorly defined careers).

# 12 jccalhoun said, on December 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

intelligent design is creationism. End of story.
What is the hypothesis of intelligent design? That “god” did it. What is the evidence for intelligent design? That evolution is wrong.

Guess what, first, nearly all their “evidence” that evolution is wrong is wrong and secondly, evidence against evolution is not automatically evidence for intelligent design.

# 13 Peter L. Winkler said, on December 28th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

George Gilder, senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, the organisation that has attempted to insert intelligent design into public schools and textbooks, said, “Intelligent design has no content” and also admitted that he never so much as read a biology textbook.

Science is about discovering the best explanation that fits the facts of natural phenomena. Evolutionary theory is the best explanation for the origin of species that fits the empirical evidence from biology, geology and paleantology.

Intelligent design is creationism redressed and is the equivalent of invoking magic.

# 14 TThor said, on December 28th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

Rep. Paul is only one to address the root cause of the problem here; US has pissed off so many people so long due to occupation and historical political trickery that they hate you. Being one at the receiving end I highly appreciate what you did at my part of the world, but I don’t understand how you can afford nations building and policing all over the globe. And when you see that gratitude is not evident and the politicians in place is only puppets and even corrupt ones… why on earth do you maintain the same costly – resources and people – policy?

Ben Stein’s ranting is not worth commenting… even his abhorrent antisemitic statement.

# 15 Macbandit said, on December 28th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

#3 Yeah you left out the only real credential he has, he was the Presidential speech writer for Nixon and Ford.

# 16 Wretched Gnu said, on December 28th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

What’s astonishing is how Stein’s remark so clearly proves the fact that a certain segment of the right wing’s foreign policy really is oriented around the presumption that any non-Jewish people in the middle east are, for that reason alone, the enemy.

# 17 Father said, on December 28th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

I was my observation that many (most?) Israelis are brainwashed, either through their service with the Israeli Defense Forces or through propaganda (probably a combination) to want to kill all the Muslims in their country, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip, and any Muslims that threaten Israel.

The Jewish Americans I know have never spoken in this way to me.

# 18 deowll said, on December 29th, 2009 at 12:13 am

We are running out of money and bodies. The dollar has fallen 19% recently. The national debt is growing like a California wild-fire during a drought and a wind storm. I don’t see things going more than 5 to 10 years before the system crashes.

I’m starting to think we just need to pull our people home. So for as I can see we have lost the war with Islamic extremists. Park the careers, disband most of the military and tell the Chinese and Indians they can run things.

We were a super power but we blew our budget and now we aren’t.

After that the only thing left is learning how to live in a Muslim/Chinese/Indian world. Most of us aren’t going to want to convert to Islam but if you don’t you can expect to die and bad things happen to your families so I think most of you will.

All the atheists and gays will be killed but there’s nothing I can do for them. They don’t have all that much use for Christians either. Of course I’m 59 and overweight so I may not live long enough to have to deal with that.

If you are in your 40s and younger I think you are in for some very rough sledding.

Happy new year.

# 19 CZfront said, on December 29th, 2009 at 12:24 am

If theses radical Muslems hate the West so much, why they keep on attacking the US and don’t do their horrors in Europe? Europe has open borders compared to the US.
I guess #14 is onto something. They hate you because you are to much involved… everywhere. Occupation in any way or form is bound to foster resistance, like it or not. And the not too bright ones can be shaped into human bombs… like the Crotchbomber.

# 20 Lou said, on December 29th, 2009 at 12:25 am

Ben Stein is an annoying person. I’m not sure why he is on TV. He goes on Fox News and tells everyone that he thinks the banking sector is a good area to invest in. That was in the spring of 2008.

# 21 Alfred1 said, on December 29th, 2009 at 12:37 am

Its all a diversion from the failure of the Obama administration to keep the security process working…

Political correctness allowed Ft Hood and this bomber to operate…

They could have signs on them saying “I will bomb” and Obama and his Attorney General will prosecute, rather persecute any law enforcement that takes action…

They cannot distinguish from the terrorists from the US Army…

# 22 Matt said, on December 29th, 2009 at 2:33 am

I like Congressman Ron Paul’s statement about putting the cost of security and management on the airlines. No one will want to fly on the ‘worst’ airline, when it comes to security. Big government is terrible at stopping this stuff, and a prime example is this terrorist attack and 9/11. Big government is better at just trying to focus on regulating the whole thing. But allow free market forces to self regulate in this case, because fear will force passengers to pick only the best secured airlines.

I also like Ron Paul’s introduction the Letter of Marque and Reprisal bill, both in 2001 and 2007. We need to turn killing Al Qaeda, Somali Pirates, and Drug Cartels into a full blown industry, and back that industry up with a Letter of Marque issued directly by Congress.

# 23 Uncle Patso said, on December 29th, 2009 at 3:28 am

# 10 Glenn E.:
“And that movie that you’re all crowing about, is not about Creationism. It’s an argument for giving equal time to the Intelligent Design model of origins.”

Dude. ID=Creationism. I think so. The courts think so. # 12 jccalhoun thinks so. Most people think so. Give it up already.

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# 18 deowll:
“Park the careers, disband most of the military and tell the Chinese and Indians they can run things.”

Dude! Why are so many people lately content to live in a weak country? Even if the BRIC countries overtake the U.S. economically (possible but not inescapable), that doesn’t make us weak! We don’t have to lie down and die just because we’re not Top Dog of the World any more. Maybe, like Avis, we’ll work harder if we become second…

(*BRIC=Brazil, Russia, India, China.)

= = = = =

Ben Stein is an amusing actor and game show host, but politically I think he hangs around ‘way too many Birchers.

# 24 Eric Morris said, on December 29th, 2009 at 3:51 am

Thank God for #10 Glenn E. The rest of you are crazy.

@All You people should watch something before commenting on it (i.e. “Expelled”). Evolution isn’t fact. Creationism doesn’t make you crazy. And there are good reasons for being in the middle east.

We didn’t make king george the 3rd, hitler, stalin, mao, or mussolini crazy and we sure didn’t make these terrorist crazy.

# 25 amodedoma said, on December 29th, 2009 at 4:41 am

Ah yes, that old myth that Isreal can’t defend itself, without help from the US. I’m sure most Isrealis would tell you, Ben Stein doesn’t speak for them, and they’re well prepared to defend themselves. This a-hole is famous and he’s jewish so his masters use him to help misinform.
Just in case some of you haven’t learned this already – You can’t pacify a region by filling it with troops anymore than you can teach a culture to live like you do just by imposing your values and political system.

# 26 Cursor_ said, on December 29th, 2009 at 5:07 am

OK Might I remind all the people here.

Arabs ARE Semites TOO.

This is why the whole world is so screwed up. We have become embroiled in a fight between two groups of Semites.

Cursor_

# 27 Rich said, on December 29th, 2009 at 5:29 am

This fellow puts forth the idea that most modern Jews and even Israelis are not true Jews in the ethnic and historic sense. Further he says that the Palestinians are closer than the wannabees from Eastern Europe and other places. Not that I’m enamored of “God’s chosen people” as he is but we should at least know what we’re talking about. Honesty is good.

# 28 Leo said, on December 29th, 2009 at 7:11 am

…would “have” said…- not would “of”. If you are going to comment on the intelligence of others, show some yourself.

# 29 Kahless said, on December 29th, 2009 at 7:34 am

It wasn’t the focus of this post, but did anyone else notice how the government official in the middle made sure to make the point that all of this is Bush’s fault and not Obama’s? Is there ever going to be a day when Obama and his administration start taking some responsibility, rather than blaming Bush? Frankly, I’m getting sick of it. It’s been a year Obama. Step up, be a man, and take some responsibility.

# 30 amodedoma said, on December 29th, 2009 at 8:01 am

#28 kless

Why should he take responsibility, he hasn’t done anything but dance around and give speeches so far.

# 31 ± said, on December 29th, 2009 at 8:36 am

adding to what #27 said, odds are high that the person responsible for posting that “would of” is under 35; a product of our increasingly enlightened education system

# 32 Schuyler Colfax said, on December 29th, 2009 at 8:47 am

What if I could prove to you that evolution is as much a fact as gravity? If you are curious, you’ll take the time to read “The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution”. It’s a truly fascinating book.

# 33 Phydeau said, on December 29th, 2009 at 8:49 am

#28 Say you buy a house, a fixer-upper. The previous owner didn’t do any maintenance on it. The plumbing is falling apart, the electric is falling apart, the roof is leaking, everything needs painting.

You start working on all the repairs, which will take years. After a short while, your friends start coming around, and say “Why don’t you have all this fixed? When are you going to take responsibility for all this mess? Why do you keep blaming the guy who used to own this house? He’s long gone! Take responsibility for this mess!”

For those analogy-challenged among you, Obama’s the president, so he’s responsible for cleaning up Bush’s mess. That’s his job. But he’s not responsible for causing the mess. That’s Bush’s fault. And until Obama finishes cleaning up Bush’s mess, we’re still going to be talking about the mess and who caused it. Capice?

Now, whether Obama can do it or not is another question. Maybe, maybe not. We’ll have to see. Perhaps the Republicans were smart to lose this election — Dubya f*cked things up so bad that it may not be possible for anyone to fix any time soon, and the D’s will just end up looking bad when they fail.

# 34 Guy said, on December 29th, 2009 at 8:54 am

#17 AKA Father,

It is very evident you have no idea what you are talking about. If you would have had any idea you would know that many Muslims live in Israel and nobody is trying to kill them or otherwise harm them, and you would be surprised to know that Israelis don’t want to kill the people in Gaza, or anywhere else for that matter, either. The vast majority of Israelis simply want our neighbors to let us be, which, unfortunately, is not the case.

In fact, I would bet you that there are more Americans than Israelis who would like for such a thing to happen… (and no – I am not a US hater, on the contrary)

I do not know you so I will say the with regards to what you wrote, and not on a personal level: as an Israeli who knows his own people very well, you are the brainwashed one if that is what you think and the so called statements that you’ve made are nothing more than ignorant, sorry ass, BS.

Have a nice day.

# 35 qb said, on December 29th, 2009 at 9:12 am

According to Ben Stein’s movie, God created this mess. Let him clean it up.

# 36 Thomas said, on December 29th, 2009 at 9:17 am

#10
> And that movie that
> you’re all crowing about,
> is not about Creationism.
> It’s an argument for giving
> equal time to the Intelligent
> Design model of origins.

ID is a form of creationism. So, giving equal time to ID is in fact giving equal time to creationism.

#17
Rubbish. Most Muslims in that area are taught from childhood to hate Jews. Jews are not taught to hate Muslims. They have merely observed local Muslim behavior and speech over an extended period of time and have come to the conclusion that most Muslims wish to kill them.

#23
> Evolution isn’t fact.

Wrong. That species evolve is an observable fact. It is akin to observing that the Sun rises.

# 37 Olo Baggins of Bywater said, on December 29th, 2009 at 9:18 am

#23 Eric Morris…your complete ignorance of science is noted. Let me try to help you….The theory of evolution is the result of science. Creationism is a belief based on legend. They’re not necessarily mutually exclusive, but trying to replace a well-studied science topic–one that has hard and replicable evidence– with an unprovable legend is stupid.

# 38 Thomas said, on December 29th, 2009 at 9:29 am

#28
Your friends might ask you why, worse that nothing being done, that the mess is actually significantly worse. They might ask why you are pissing on your own lawn. They might ask why you are letting your neighbors pick through you mess and take whatever they want.

Blaming your predecessor about a messy project lasts about six months. Six months is enough time for improvement efforts to have taken effect and to show some sort of change. Obama has had about a year.

# 39 Phydeau said, on December 29th, 2009 at 10:18 am

#37 Dubya spent 8 years wrecking the economy and Obama’s supposed to fix it all up in six months???? Dubya got us into these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Obama’s supposed to tidy it up in six months???

Dream on.

We know you wingnuts hate Obama for reasons mostly emotional. You hated him while he was running, you hated him after he got elected, and you hated him after he took office. Just like Clinton. Just go ahead and bash him — you know you want to. Don’t worry about reason or rationality.

And the irony of it all, is that he’s more like the Republicans who you worship than you give him credit for. He’s giving away the store to the big bankers, just like the Republicans would have done. He’s turning over the health care bill to the big lobbyists, just like the Republicans would have done. He’s keeping the unconstitutional spying just like the Republicans would have done.

I don’t like him much more than you do, but you are laboring under the delusion that if McCain had been elected, things would have been any better.

As I said — dream on.

# 40 jccalhoun said, on December 29th, 2009 at 10:31 am

It is akin to observing that the Sun rises.

That’s not really the best example since the sun doesn’t really rise…

# 41 Thomas said, on December 29th, 2009 at 11:17 am

#39
It works as an analogy to illustrate that it is observable. Clearly we know much more about the Sun and what it is actually doing, but it starts there. A human cannot easily observe that the Earth rotates around the Sun, however, they can observe shadows, eclipses and such to deduce that it does.

# 42 Thomas said, on December 29th, 2009 at 11:22 am

#38
Perhaps you might try actually reading a post before responding? I never said that anything had to be fixed in six months. I said that we should see some sort of progress in six months.

Obama campaigned on going into Afghanistan. All your Democrat buddies wanted to go into Afghanistan. How is that Bush’s war? Further, it is the one thing Obama has done somewhat correct. I say “somewhat” because in addition to giving the commanders (most of) the troops they needed, he also set a timetable which was dumb. Still, we’ll see how it goes.

Seriously, put the bong down, take off the tie-dye shirt, get out of your mom’s basement and start living in the real world.

# 43 bac said, on December 29th, 2009 at 11:30 am

I consider ID(Creationism) to be the alternative to faith concerning religion. Faith is spiritual which provides religion with hope and goodness.

ID(Creationism) tries to be logical and of sound reason. It wants to quantify and qualify religion.

Both faith and ID(Creationism) have only one reference point which is a book written by humans.

Those two things are nothing like science and are not even close to being an alternitive.

# 44 Phydeau said, on December 29th, 2009 at 11:33 am

#41 You’ve decided that six months is the magic number for “showing progress” for fixing an 8 year mess. Who says six months is reasonable? Who says things aren’t getting better? The stock market is improving. Unemployment isn’t going up as much. I think you’re just looking for a reason to bash Obama.

Afghanistan is Bush’s war because he started it. Does anyone think Obama would have started a war in Afghanistan in 2009 if one hadn’t been going on? He has to play the hand he was given and make the best of a bad situation.

# 45 bac said, on December 29th, 2009 at 11:34 am

#41 — Agreed that Obama can take credit for the finnishing of the Afghanistan war. Bush Jr. started it right after 9/11 but quickly left it for dead when he wanted to take out Iraq. Obama is just finnishing what Bush Jr. started. Bush Jr. should have been a responsible adult by finnishing the Afghanistan war before dictating to other lands.

# 46 Thomas said, on December 29th, 2009 at 11:39 am

#43
Unemployment is anywhere from 10% to 17% depending on who you ask. The deficit is twice that of Bush’s. Yes, worse.

> Does anyone think
> Obama would have
> started a war in
> Afghanistan in 2009

An irrelevant question. Bush would not have started a war in Afghanistan in 2009 either (A: because he isn’t President and B: because we were not attacked).

I believe the question you should be asking is whether Obama would have started a war in Afghanistan after 9/11. Given what he said during his campaign and while he was a Senator (as brief as that was), the answer is probably yes.

# 47 Phydeau said, on December 29th, 2009 at 11:47 am

#45 You’ve already decided Obama sucks, with your arbitrary six month period. Everything bad that happens from now on you will blame 100% on Obama, even though he was left with a huge mess to clean up. Fine. Knock yourself out. Sheesh.

# 48 amodedoma said, on December 29th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

# 32 piedough

Why stop there? The middle eastern conflict is really the responsibility of a forward thinking pentagon, preparing the next enemy while they finish off the previous one. It’s ludicrous to say that this situation is the result of poor planning, when it seems that everything that the US has done in the area has had a destabilizing effect, and no, I’m not just referring to the help to Israel.

# 49 Animal Mother said, on December 29th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

ID = creationism.

Anyone who believes ID and/or creationism is a crazy idiot and can kiss my ass.

# 50 Phydeau said, on December 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

#47 I agree, there’s evidence that our military-industrial complex has gained the power to ensure we are always “at war”.

# 51 Thomas said, on December 29th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

#46
> Everything bad that
> happens from now on
> you will blame 100%
> on Obama

That sounds so familiar: blaming the current President for all the country’s and world’s woes. Where have I heard that before…? Oh, that’s right, that is exactly what the Democrats have done for the past eight years.

On the contrary, I do not blame Obama for the financial crisis he inherited nor for situation the Middle-East. I do state that he now owns the problem and I do blame him for lack of progress (or worse) in effecting change. If you don’t like the six month period, then let’s extend it to a year and what we find is that our plight is no better and in some cases worse than when he took office.

# 52 canucklehead said, on December 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

re Ron Paul’s idea that the US meddles too much:

criminals from Town A invade a bank in Town B, killing dozens of evil bankers, themselves, and hundreds of innocent bystanders. The mayor of Town B decides to do something about it. But he has friends who live in Town A, so he has his police force go after the criminals in Town C. But the police are sloppy and not only take out the criminals in Town C (who had nothing to do with the original attack on Town B), but thousands of innocents people who happen to live in Town C.

Substitute:
- Saudi Arabia for Town A.
- USA for Town B.
- George Bush for the Mayor
- Iraq for Town C.

Do you think the citizens of Town C might be a little pissed at Town B and it’s police?

Some would argue that the same scenario is played out by powerful people from Town B all over the world. Ron Paul is one of them.

# 53 Father said, on December 29th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

Thomas and the Israeli Pretender #33,

If you think that approximately 1/2 of Israelis don’t want to kill all the muslims, then I suggest you live there during a hot war. Your eyes will open.

The Israeli Pretender: you my friend have never been to Israel in your life, or, at best, are a sheltered Kibbutzie. More propaganda.

The funny thing is that Israel is actually the land of Canaan, and the Jews should give it back to Egypt – the rightful owners.

# 54 Two to the Head said, on December 29th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

#10 and #23

You can’t wait for “the rapture” can you?

http://beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/End-Times/On-The-Road-To-Armageddon.aspx

It fits so well with “intelligent design”.

sheesh.

# 55 Thomas said, on December 29th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

#51
Frankly, I place the blame on the mayor of Town C. Had Hussein and his people not acted like they were withholding information, had they been open about inspections, had they not fired on US aircraft, had they not invaded Kuwait, had they abided by the UN resolutions, had they actively worked with the international community in stopping terrorists especially those in their own country, they would not have been invaded. Btw, you are also forgetting the thousands of Town C residents killed by the (former) mayor of Town C.

#52
On the contrary, quite a few of my friends are Israeli, one of whom recently returned to Israel. Frankly, Israelis are fed up with the hate of Muslims. If you had a collective group that hated you for generations, that bombed school buses, trained people to commit suicide and indiscriminately fired rockets at you, you would also develop some reciprocal hate.

> The funny thing is that Israel
> is actually the land of Canaan,
> and the Jews should give it back
> to Egypt – the rightful owners

Why stop there? The Egyptians should give their land back to the Hittites, right? What about Chaldeans? What about the empires after that such as Greece and Rome? Are you saying that the Egyptian’s should give their land back to the Italians? Sheesh.

# 56 darrin said, on December 29th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

Ben Stein is representative of what most mainstream Jews in the US think. He’s just the physically freakish messenger.

# 57 Father said, on December 29th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

Thomas,

I’m not saying recipricol hate isn’t justified (well I don’t think that’s what I said), I just am pointing out that in my experience in living there (not as a tourist) that the Israelis are not innocent at all.

That guy “Guy” is so full of it I can’t even begin to explain.

When I lived there, the newspaper I was reading descriped the destruction of “illegal” Muslim homes out in the desert, and the random beating of desert Muslims. From my daily trips through the desert, these desert Musilims were hurting no one, were “living” off land that had zero value to all but the most hearty goat herder, and were simply an easy target on which Israelis work out their frustration. Many of the Israelis I spoke to were openly hostile to these people, the people on the Gaza Strip, and to the West Bank and Syria.

Only one woman, who taught both Israeli and Muslim children, seemed honestly concerned about the Muslim people.

Netanyahu, from what I read a while ago, is a large problem rather than a solution.

Again, my experience is that of someone who experienced a hot war in Israel. And while I may technically be partially Jewish (aren’t we all), I have no allegiance to anything Israeli or Jewish.

# 58 Somebody said, on December 29th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

Screw you, Ben Stein!

# 59 pedro's (beyond being embarrassed) daddy said, on December 30th, 2009 at 3:49 am

wow. that ben stein is almost as stupid as my son.

# 60 Guy said, on December 30th, 2009 at 6:23 am

Father…. I pitty your children….

The emotional amplitude of your response proves that you are uncomfortable with the truth…
I was born, raised and still living in Israel, and I, as opposed to you, know what I am talking about.

But I guess that’s how it is with people like you… you never ever let facts confuse you.

As far as Cannan go all I have to say is LOL YOU ARE SUCH A PATHETIC FOOL!

And in the spirit and language of our neighbors I will say this last thing: Maktua rekbetak ya kalb! DD

# 61 Bob said, on December 30th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

Wow! Talk about a public soapbox. Regardless of your level of intelligence and understanding, step right up and make your ignorance known to the world. Incredible!

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