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	<title>Comments on: Ben Stein: If You&#8217;re Against Occupying the Middle East, You&#8217;re Anti-Semitic</title>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Talk about a public soapbox. Regardless of your level of intelligence and understanding, step right up and make your ignorance known to the world. Incredible!</description>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father.... I pitty your children....

The emotional amplitude of your response proves that you are uncomfortable with the truth...
I was born, raised and still living in Israel, and I, as opposed to you, know what I am talking about.

But I guess that&#039;s how it is with people like you... you never ever let facts confuse you.

As far as Cannan go all I have to say is LOL YOU ARE SUCH A PATHETIC FOOL! :D

And in the spirit and language of our neighbors I will say this last thing: Maktua rekbetak ya kalb! :DDD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father&#8230;. I pitty your children&#8230;.</p>
<p>The emotional amplitude of your response proves that you are uncomfortable with the truth&#8230;<br />
I was born, raised and still living in Israel, and I, as opposed to you, know what I am talking about.</p>
<p>But I guess that&#8217;s how it is with people like you&#8230; you never ever let facts confuse you.</p>
<p>As far as Cannan go all I have to say is LOL YOU ARE SUCH A PATHETIC FOOL! <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And in the spirit and language of our neighbors I will say this last thing: Maktua rekbetak ya kalb! <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> DD</p>
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		<title>By: pedro's (beyond being embarrassed) daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro's (beyond being embarrassed) daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. that ben stein is almost as stupid as my son.</description>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw you, Ben Stein!</description>
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		<title>By: Father</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas,

I&#039;m not saying recipricol hate isn&#039;t justified (well I don&#039;t think that&#039;s what I said), I just am pointing out that in my experience in living there (not as a tourist) that the Israelis are not innocent at all. 

That guy &quot;Guy&quot; is so full of it I can&#039;t even begin to explain. 

When I lived there, the newspaper I was reading descriped the destruction of &quot;illegal&quot; Muslim homes out in the desert, and the random beating of desert Muslims.  From my daily trips through the desert, these desert Musilims were hurting no one, were &quot;living&quot; off land that had zero value to all but the most hearty goat herder, and were simply an easy target on which Israelis work out their frustration.  Many of the Israelis I spoke to were openly hostile to these people, the people on the Gaza Strip, and to the West Bank and Syria.

Only one woman, who taught both Israeli and Muslim children, seemed honestly concerned about the Muslim people.

Netanyahu, from what I read a while ago, is a large problem rather than a solution. 

Again, my experience is that of someone who experienced a hot war in Israel.  And while I may technically be partially Jewish (aren&#039;t we all), I have no allegiance to anything Israeli or Jewish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying recipricol hate isn&#8217;t justified (well I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s what I said), I just am pointing out that in my experience in living there (not as a tourist) that the Israelis are not innocent at all. </p>
<p>That guy &#8220;Guy&#8221; is so full of it I can&#8217;t even begin to explain. </p>
<p>When I lived there, the newspaper I was reading descriped the destruction of &#8220;illegal&#8221; Muslim homes out in the desert, and the random beating of desert Muslims.  From my daily trips through the desert, these desert Musilims were hurting no one, were &#8220;living&#8221; off land that had zero value to all but the most hearty goat herder, and were simply an easy target on which Israelis work out their frustration.  Many of the Israelis I spoke to were openly hostile to these people, the people on the Gaza Strip, and to the West Bank and Syria.</p>
<p>Only one woman, who taught both Israeli and Muslim children, seemed honestly concerned about the Muslim people.</p>
<p>Netanyahu, from what I read a while ago, is a large problem rather than a solution. </p>
<p>Again, my experience is that of someone who experienced a hot war in Israel.  And while I may technically be partially Jewish (aren&#8217;t we all), I have no allegiance to anything Israeli or Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: darrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>darrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben Stein is representative of what most mainstream Jews in the US think.  He&#039;s just the physically freakish messenger.</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51
Frankly, I place the blame on the mayor of Town C. Had Hussein and his people not acted like they were withholding information, had they been open about inspections, had they not fired on US aircraft, had they not invaded Kuwait, had they abided by the UN resolutions, had they actively worked with the international community in stopping terrorists especially those in their own country, they would not have been invaded. Btw, you are also forgetting the thousands of Town C residents killed by the (former) mayor of Town C. 

#52
On the contrary, quite a few of my friends are Israeli, one of whom recently returned to Israel. Frankly, Israelis are fed up with the hate of Muslims. If you had a collective group that hated you for generations, that bombed school buses, trained people to commit suicide and indiscriminately fired rockets at you, you would also develop some reciprocal hate. 

&gt; The funny thing is that Israel 
&gt; is actually the land of Canaan, 
&gt; and the Jews should give it back 
&gt; to Egypt – the rightful owners

Why stop there? The Egyptians should give their land back to the Hittites, right? What about Chaldeans? What about the empires after that such as Greece and Rome? Are you saying that the Egyptian&#039;s should give their land back to the Italians? Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51<br />
Frankly, I place the blame on the mayor of Town C. Had Hussein and his people not acted like they were withholding information, had they been open about inspections, had they not fired on US aircraft, had they not invaded Kuwait, had they abided by the UN resolutions, had they actively worked with the international community in stopping terrorists especially those in their own country, they would not have been invaded. Btw, you are also forgetting the thousands of Town C residents killed by the (former) mayor of Town C. </p>
<p>#52<br />
On the contrary, quite a few of my friends are Israeli, one of whom recently returned to Israel. Frankly, Israelis are fed up with the hate of Muslims. If you had a collective group that hated you for generations, that bombed school buses, trained people to commit suicide and indiscriminately fired rockets at you, you would also develop some reciprocal hate. </p>
<p>&gt; The funny thing is that Israel<br />
&gt; is actually the land of Canaan,<br />
&gt; and the Jews should give it back<br />
&gt; to Egypt – the rightful owners</p>
<p>Why stop there? The Egyptians should give their land back to the Hittites, right? What about Chaldeans? What about the empires after that such as Greece and Rome? Are you saying that the Egyptian&#8217;s should give their land back to the Italians? Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Two to the Head</title>
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		<dc:creator>Two to the Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 and #23 

You can&#039;t wait for &quot;the rapture&quot; can you?

http://beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/End-Times/On-The-Road-To-Armageddon.aspx

It fits so well with &quot;intelligent design&quot;.

sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 and #23 </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t wait for &#8220;the rapture&#8221; can you?</p>
<p><a href="http://beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/End-Times/On-The-Road-To-Armageddon.aspx" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/End-Times/On-The-Road-To-Armageddon.aspx' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/End-Times/On-The-Road-To-Armageddon.aspx</a></p>
<p>It fits so well with &#8220;intelligent design&#8221;.</p>
<p>sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Father</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas and the Israeli Pretender #33,

If you think that approximately 1/2 of Israelis don&#039;t want to kill all the muslims, then I suggest you live there during a hot war.  Your eyes will open.  

The Israeli Pretender: you my friend have never been to Israel in your life, or, at best, are a sheltered Kibbutzie.  More propaganda.   

The funny thing is that Israel is actually the land of &lt;b&gt;Canaan&lt;/b&gt;, and the Jews should give it back to Egypt - the rightful owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas and the Israeli Pretender #33,</p>
<p>If you think that approximately 1/2 of Israelis don&#8217;t want to kill all the muslims, then I suggest you live there during a hot war.  Your eyes will open.  </p>
<p>The Israeli Pretender: you my friend have never been to Israel in your life, or, at best, are a sheltered Kibbutzie.  More propaganda.   </p>
<p>The funny thing is that Israel is actually the land of <b>Canaan</b>, and the Jews should give it back to Egypt &#8211; the rightful owners.</p>
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		<title>By: canucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>canucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re Ron Paul&#039;s idea that the US meddles too much:

criminals from Town A invade a bank in Town B, killing dozens of evil bankers, themselves, and hundreds of innocent bystanders.  The mayor of Town B decides to do something about it.  But he has friends who live in Town A, so he has his police force go after the criminals in Town C.  But the police are sloppy and not only take out the criminals in Town C (who had nothing to do with the original attack on Town B), but thousands of innocents people who happen to live in Town C.

Substitute:
- Saudi Arabia for Town A.
- USA for Town B.
- George Bush for the Mayor
- Iraq for Town C.

Do you think the citizens of Town C might be a little pissed at Town B and it&#039;s police?

Some would argue that the same scenario is played out by powerful people from Town B all over the world.  Ron Paul is one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Ron Paul&#8217;s idea that the US meddles too much:</p>
<p>criminals from Town A invade a bank in Town B, killing dozens of evil bankers, themselves, and hundreds of innocent bystanders.  The mayor of Town B decides to do something about it.  But he has friends who live in Town A, so he has his police force go after the criminals in Town C.  But the police are sloppy and not only take out the criminals in Town C (who had nothing to do with the original attack on Town B), but thousands of innocents people who happen to live in Town C.</p>
<p>Substitute:<br />
- Saudi Arabia for Town A.<br />
- USA for Town B.<br />
- George Bush for the Mayor<br />
- Iraq for Town C.</p>
<p>Do you think the citizens of Town C might be a little pissed at Town B and it&#8217;s police?</p>
<p>Some would argue that the same scenario is played out by powerful people from Town B all over the world.  Ron Paul is one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#46
&gt; Everything bad that 
&gt; happens from now on 
&gt; you will blame 100% 
&gt; on Obama

That sounds so familiar: blaming the current President for all the country&#039;s and world&#039;s woes. Where have I heard that before...? Oh, that&#039;s right, that is exactly what the Democrats have done for the past eight years.

On the contrary, I do not blame Obama for the financial crisis he inherited nor for situation the Middle-East. I do state that he now owns the problem and I do blame him for lack of progress (or worse) in effecting change. If you don&#039;t like the six month period, then let&#039;s extend it to a year and what we find is that our plight is no better and in some cases worse than when he took office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#46<br />
&gt; Everything bad that<br />
&gt; happens from now on<br />
&gt; you will blame 100%<br />
&gt; on Obama</p>
<p>That sounds so familiar: blaming the current President for all the country&#8217;s and world&#8217;s woes. Where have I heard that before&#8230;? Oh, that&#8217;s right, that is exactly what the Democrats have done for the past eight years.</p>
<p>On the contrary, I do not blame Obama for the financial crisis he inherited nor for situation the Middle-East. I do state that he now owns the problem and I do blame him for lack of progress (or worse) in effecting change. If you don&#8217;t like the six month period, then let&#8217;s extend it to a year and what we find is that our plight is no better and in some cases worse than when he took office.</p>
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		<title>By: Phydeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phydeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#47  I agree, there&#039;s evidence that our military-industrial complex has gained the power to ensure we are always &quot;at war&quot;.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47  I agree, there&#8217;s evidence that our military-industrial complex has gained the power to ensure we are always &#8220;at war&#8221;.  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Animal Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Animal Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ID = creationism.

Anyone who believes ID and/or creationism is a crazy idiot and can kiss my ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ID = creationism.</p>
<p>Anyone who believes ID and/or creationism is a crazy idiot and can kiss my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: amodedoma</title>
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		<dc:creator>amodedoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 32 piedough

Why stop there?  The middle eastern conflict is really the responsibility of a forward thinking pentagon, preparing the next enemy while they finish off the previous one.  It&#039;s ludicrous to say that this situation is the result of poor planning, when it seems that everything that the US has done in the area has had a destabilizing effect, and no, I&#039;m not just referring to the help to Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 32 piedough</p>
<p>Why stop there?  The middle eastern conflict is really the responsibility of a forward thinking pentagon, preparing the next enemy while they finish off the previous one.  It&#8217;s ludicrous to say that this situation is the result of poor planning, when it seems that everything that the US has done in the area has had a destabilizing effect, and no, I&#8217;m not just referring to the help to Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Phydeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phydeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#45 You&#039;ve already decided Obama sucks, with your arbitrary six month period.  Everything bad that happens from now on you will blame 100% on Obama, even though he was left with a huge mess to clean up.  Fine.  Knock yourself out.  Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45 You&#8217;ve already decided Obama sucks, with your arbitrary six month period.  Everything bad that happens from now on you will blame 100% on Obama, even though he was left with a huge mess to clean up.  Fine.  Knock yourself out.  Sheesh.</p>
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