You need to read the entire article to find out how things we are being told by the government are not what they seem. Confusion at the beginning is one thing, but this has been going on for days. Who are they trying to protect? This is just a small quote from passenger Kurt Haskell about what happened right after they landed:

We were then marched out of the baggage claim area and into a long hallway.

Lori and Kurt Haskell

This entire time period and until we left customs, no person that wasn’t a law enforcement personnel or a passenger on our flight was allowed anywhere on our floor of the terminal (or possibly the entire terminal) The FBI was so concerned during this time, that we were not allowed to use the bathroom unless we went alone with an FBI agent, we were not allowed to eat or drink, or text or call anyone. I have been repeating this same story over the last 5 days. The FBI has, since we landed, insisted that only one man was arrested for the airliner attack (contradicting my account). However, several of my fellow passengers have come over the past few days, backed up my claim, and put pressure on FBI/Customs to tell the truth. Early today, I heard from two different reporters that a federal agency (FBI or Customs) was now admitting that another man has been held (and will be held indefinitely) since our flight landed for “immigration reasons.” Notice that this man was “being held” and not “arrested”, which was a cute semantic ploy by the FBI to stretch the truth and not lie.




  1. ArianeB says:

    The Government lied to us?

    I am completely and utterly shocked and dismayed. The Goverment never lies!

  2. Reader1 says:

    Yea this story was very fishy from the first time I heard it.

    I was watching CNN yesterday, and some guy (was one of GW Bush guys) came on and said if people were not so concerned with their privacy the security agencies could have done their job more effectively and he made a case that those new scanners should be introduced in Airports and made compulsory, despite concerns over privacy.

    I was like ,you idiots (referring to CNN), he didn’t even board on a US airport , and now this, he didn’t even have a passport, that is just great, We don’t need more scanners and security screening, other countries do.

    Government is using this to mandate the new scanners, that is sick,

  3. Perplexus says:

    You mean hope and change hasn’t produced the most open and transparent government ever?

  4. Floyd says:

    I’m not saying that Haskell is lying, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. He needs more proof, such as additional credible witnesses that will back him up.

  5. Mr. Fusion says:

    Actually, I hope this is correct. For the police to just allow everyone to go their merry way after getting off the plane would be so typically Republican stupid.

    Holding everyone until it is sorted out is standard procedure, perfectly legal, and unremarkable. BTW, they were not under arrest, they are Material Witnesses.

  6. LDA says:

    #4

    What is extraordinary about his claim? Aliens, telepathy? Oh, that the FBI is not being completely transparent, yeah that is mind-blowingly extraordinary.

    I would like corroborating evidence too, but claiming it is an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary proof is, extraordinary.

  7. Floyd says:

    The guy is talking about seeing some other person that was apparently arrested. He is the only person saying this. He needs someone else that can back him up or he doesn’t look too credible.

  8. Coolio says:

    Floyd – the fact that a second person was arrested is common knowledge.

  9. Uncle Dave says:

    #8: Read the article. He talks about how unlikely the second person was from a different flight unless the FBI is totally incompetant.

  10. tbeale says:

    #5. I can’t even express how fucking wrong you are…but it’s your typical response. I use to have some respect for your opinions, now I just realize you are a such a numbnuts shill for your party that everything you say is to be immediately dismissed.

  11. AC_in_Mich says:

    Hmmm, read this story here

    The Same guy – Haskell – Making other assertions that are even more outrageous – either he’s a publicity hound or something isn’t right

    AC

  12. Father says:

    I want to know how the billions of dollars that have been spent on the wars in Iraq and Afganistan have helped stop this latest bomber?

  13. the Grim Peeper says:

    You are right #11, something isn’t right! All the FBI had to do was say that the 2nd guy had important information, and we don’t want them to know we have him, so pretend you didn’t see anything. If they wanted to squash this story, they could. So all this is just smoke and mirrors.

    So what’s really going on?

  14. TooManyPuppies says:

    This entire ordeal has bullshit written all over it. This kid was led onto the plane, bypassing normal security, with no passport, then they lay out his “explosive” underwear that he supposedly ignited on TV and…. not a single fucking scorch mark on it!

    Now all the sheeple are crying for more full body scans so some fatass in a room can jerk off to their little child’s naked pictures. Which has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

    Bravo America, Bra-fucking-O!

  15. Mr. Fusion says:

    #10, tbeale,

    #5. I can’t even express how fucking wrong you are…but it’s your typical response. I use to have some respect for your opinions, now I just realize you are a such a numbnuts shill for your party that everything you say is to be immediately dismissed.

    Well since I posted #5, lets look at why you think I’m wrong.

    Your first argument, …

    OK, so lets move on to the next point. …

    And, well, your next counter, …

    So yes, I have such a hard time refuting your ideas I’ll have to go back to what I said before: you’re a fucking idiot and my #5 comment is directed straight at people like you.

  16. tbeale says:

    Your response makes absolutely no sense..not surprising.

    Like I said, there was a time when I really loved and agreed with your position, and my respect for you was very high. Now, all I see is a shill. So, very disappointing. Someone who cannot see that their party is as screwed up as the other.

    Signed: the fucking idiot.

  17. agp says:

    #11 “either he’s a publicity hound or something isn’t right”

    Yah! I’ll say something isn’t right. It looks like their drinking green beer and that’s just f’in WRONG!

  18. noname says:

    Just because the supreme court says it’s ok for police to lie and frame people doesn’t mean that the FBI or our government is lying to us.

    The FBI is America’s most virtuous government agency. FBI would never lie.

  19. jccalhoun says:

    Oh goody. Another conspiracy. So someone comments on a website and claims to be someone who is on the plane tells a story about how he wasn’t told everything and that the fbi didn’t know everything that happened right away and that’s enough for people to believe a conspiracy.

    Amazing how little evidence it takes for people to believe a conspiracy…

  20. smaki says:

    I am sorry, I have to call BS on at least part of the story. This crap about not having a passport, no way. Not only would he have had to have a passport to board, he would have been required by KLM to have one when he bought the ticket. Airlines have to validate Visa status before they can allow someone to fly to a country (especially the US).

    While I will agree there is still some fishiness with the whole thing, I am not buying this Lawyers story. Sounds like he is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame.



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