There have been child suicide bombers in the Mideast, so if you exempt those under 18 from going through…
The rapid introduction of full body scanners at British airports threatens to breach child protection laws which ban the creation of indecent images of children, the Guardian has learned.
Privacy campaigners claim the images created by the machines are so graphic they amount to “virtual strip-searching” and have called for safeguards to protect the privacy of passengers involved.
Ministers now face having to exempt under 18s from the scans or face the delays of introducing new legislation to ensure airport security staff do not commit offences under child pornography laws.
They also face demands from civil liberties groups for safeguards to ensure that images from the £80,000 scanners, including those of celebrities, do not end up on the internet.
#19,
Yet more evidence that these are perfectly acceptable datapoints for a NN built from off the shelf software, and no human has any reason to look at these.
The image on the front of this post is of two different people. Look at the hands.
Nice catch Chuck. “Single security officer in a remote location” = no supervision.
#23, just make the screener a woman then… and/or put a video camera on the screener. No big deal.
There, phone cameras and perverts are taken care of. Next?
#4 And you believe those people are impartialThey have their president in power. He does no wrong.
#5 Ah, the apologist sheeple, never fails.
Should I tell Obama to use new shoes? I think, you deserve it for being such nice puppy, It’ll make your floor licking nicer. Then again, a sheeple like you must like to lick the dirtiest floor possible, One that Obama walks with farm boots.
#14 Lefty loon now demands everyone else but him to be middle of the road, Specially those who are middle of the road and call on the left shingles like ACORN and ACLU. Sheeple!
Why don’t they test these scanners in prisons to detect and prevent smuggling of contraband by inmates, guards, and visitors?
Instead of wasting all this money on scanners we should use the best explosive detectors we have, K-9′s trained to find explosives. ” No artificial sensor has ever been able to match the sensitivity of a sniffer dog” Wired 9-10-09. The average cost of 1 dog + training is $10K. Have 1 dog at each line that checks each person+ bags for explosives. The also dogs have the added bonus of being smarter than most of the TSA.
Obama got it right in his speech today… hold the people in the government accountable for their failures. We knew that the underwear bomber had close tires to Al-Qaida, that he had spent weeks at a training camp, his own father went to the US embassy and told them that his son was dangerous, and the DHS desk-jockeys ignored it all, issued a visa, kept him off the no fly list. Obama made it very clear that accountability for effectively using the extensive tools that are in place will take a high priority.
Anyway, we now have one guy with a few grams of explosive in his underwear succeeding in marginalizing the liberties of law respecting Americans. Lots of whiny mama’s boys are calling for further measures “to keep America safe.” At best he could take down one airplane out of 13 million flights every year. Your fear level should be ZERO. Your odds of getting struck by lightning are 26 times higher than that of being on the plane that gets blown up. You want to worry about something real???? Worry about terrorists getting their hands on a few drums of that stuff that was ‘accidentally’ released by Union Carbide in Bhopal, India…. now that is a real terrorist threat, not this “I will blow up an airplane” fear.
#28 Yeah, it feels like Dumbya all over, when he said the same thing about the “miscommunications” on 9/11.
BTW, time to wake up already
As Awake hints in the above post, the next major terrorist action in the USA is unlikely to be airborne. Watch for a dirty bomb or a poisoned reservoir. Yet, the theater continues…
Full-Body Scanners are so “old technology.”
See:
http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/full-body-scanners-old-technology/
OK kids, *on this topic*…here is where i see the real problem with these scans..
When i was kid on up into my late 20′s I did my own B&W developing. I’ll be dammed if these do not look an awful lot like B&W NEGATIVES.
I’m sure with a little photoshoping they can be adjusted to yield near perfect photo images.
NO DOUBT, -the military already has a program that probably does exactly this: -to produce photrealistic images from microwave/EM scans taken of people through walls etc..
Given all the tools we have available to us today, this should be very easy to do with “off the shelf” software..
No doubt, very soon, there will be new laws put in place that make it a felony to possess any such images outside of “official use”
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-slightly off topic “yada yada” section
In the end this is all *completely useless* because if anyone wanted to take a out a plane using conventional means..they would infiltrate the baggage/mechanic support systems of the commercial aircraft industry and simple install their explosives.
Unconventionally, there are plenty of electromagnetic pulse weapons that can FUBAR fly-by-wire aircraft and leave no trace.
This is whole x-mas bomber episode is a complete farce perpetrated by corrupt intelligence agencies to further the global fascist police state agenda of the few cabals vying for control of the planet.
They were very smart in doing it on x-mas day so that here on out, *naturally* every x-mas, the media will bombard us with reminders of that “almost fateful day on December 25, 2009″ when a “Freedom and American hating MUSLIM” tried to kill a plane full of ["innocent" -of course] passengers.
(speaking of, anyone check the manifest to see who was on board? -also, given that this was the son of a banker..this may also have been a “public” message either BY or FOR the banking industry from one faction to another stating “don’t f’k with our “system” -we own you, or some other such nonsense.)
The only thing i’m sure of is that this whole event has nothing to do terrorism in the “traditional sense”
Until someone breaks the stranglehold the TPTB have on the media and our educational system (History, in particular) the majority of the public will continue to trade over every last bit of personal freedom and identity until at last, they re just put in a jail upon birth so that they have guaranteed safety from the horrors of life, from the cradle to the grave.
-Perhaps, a nation of sleepwalking ignorant idiots deserves no less..(?)
WAKE UP.
-s
I heard an El Al guy Alan Colmes’ radio show and he thinks America is nuts in how it handles airport security… especially our obsession with technology and bans on items.
Basically, he thinks the best strategy is to hire people who are highly trained at detecting deception during interviews of passengers — and then to interview everybody. (he was specifically against profiling.)
Of course, we’d have to pay those screeners well and that’s a deal-breaker with conservatives.
As is well-known now, we STILL don’t have a head of the TSA because Jim DeMint (R Asshat) is more against decently paid workers than he is against terrorists.
soundwash, No need for shop. As I said, the publicly released images are set to a lower setting than what’s used so the sheep don’t freak out on the news.
Here’s one that was released that was on a slightly higher setting:
Now, that’s not even the normal setting that’s employed, as that would be too shocking for the masses. The true setting that’s used is of an even higher resolution of the sample I posted. As I said, stand in front of a mirror and snap a B&W photo of yourself, that’s almost the true quality of what some fat ass alone in a broom closet is looking at. And as I said, you do that to my daughter, you will not be going home for dinner.
And here’s the negative of that:
TooManyPuppies: I’m hard to shock but that scan did it. The face almost looks x-rayed. You can see teeth, etc. And what is that – lint – in her navel? Is this millimeter wave or backscatter? And do you have a more trustworthy reference than Alex Jones?
For republicans, these airport scans are a major step up from that Sears catalog. Hopefully sex lives will improve. There’s a silver lining here.
Sorry to post again in rapid fire but, my god, Hopper, you could run facial recognition on that image!
It occurs to me also they claim the ability to save images will be turned off upon delivery of the machines. I’ve worked on gov contracts. Why don’t the specs just demand it not be included? Because they need to be able to turn it back on for evidentiary purposes, I bet. How long before nude photos of Nancy Pelosi start circulating on the net?
Oh, wait! We, the taxpayers are giving her a private jet to use. No security.
Last year, I was scanned leaving Moscow on business. The monitor was in plain view of me and the very few people there at the time. I could see as much detail as in these samples.
Animby, nobody else will post them.
The ones I’ve actually seen in person by my former co-worker now at the DHS, are of even BETTER quality than what’s posted on AJ’s site.