jccalhoun says:

Recently, there have been some suggestions that “global warming” has been observed on Mars. These are based on observations of regional change around the South Polar Cap, but seem to have been extended into a “global” change, and used by some to infer an external common mechanism for global warming on Earth and Mars. But this is incorrect reasoning and based on faulty understanding of the data. http://realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/10/global-warming-on-mars/

Dallas says:

#32 Not read anything about Mars and I really don;t care.

Shouldn’t you be more concerned about our little air bubble on earth than what’s happening on Mars? Sheesh, where are your priorities, Goldie Locks?

LibertyLover says:

#42,

http://tinyurl.com/2thcza

“Global warming on Neptune’s moon Triton as well as Jupiter and Pluto, and now Mars has some [scientists] scratching their heads over what could possibly be in common with the warming of all these planets … Could there be something in common with all the planets in our solar system that might cause them all to warm at the same time?”

Olo Baggins of Bywater says:

We come from the land of the ice and snow… I never believed him, but Robert Plant was apparently right.

Pedro: Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get.

MikeN says:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/8443687.stm

Near the end he says that the Met Office models predicted a flattening of temperatures for the last decade.
Somehow this never got into their press releases.

Skeptic says:

Both climate AND weather are constantly changing, but on different time scales.

Skeptic says:

Re:#51, Dallas… typical alarmist nonsense. First, I didn’t cause any of that, so don’t try and make me feel guilty for it. Second, China will probably solve it’s energy issues before North America does. Third, fourth and fifth, there is no proof that we are the main cause of global warming, there is no proof that there is a sustained warming trend, and any discrepancies to AGW in the ‘official’ reports from the IPCC that have been issued, have been refused or edited out. All these are documented and have been discussed ad nauseum on Dvorak.

Add to that the conflict of interest of key players in AGW making tons of money off it as though it were a scheme… AGW pundits no longer have any credibility whatsoever. You seem to think that climatologists are gods just because they can be labeled scientists. They are as fallible as any other human and are subject to the same weaknesses. By all appearances, both you and many of them have been hoodwinked.

Skeptic says:

#53, the skeptic argument is scientific. The AGW argument that is mired in dishonesty and secrecy is not. Make the original data freely available for scientific scrutiny. Don’t tell me it’s being scientific to hide that data… or “lose ” it. That is really disappointing, embarrassing to scientists with actual moral fibre, and rather pathetic to the average joe who can see right through the debacle.

The only actual fact that we can TRUST so far from the AGW pundits is that we’ve been burning fossil fuels, and that it produces CO2. The pros and cons of that byproduct have not been established as fact… by a long shot.

Science? You fall for terms like “the warmest year on record” like it meant something. We’ve been recording temperatures for as long as we’ve been burning oil… and that’s not very long. The REAL science is being done now by scientists who are trying to reproduce results, and trying to verify data, not by those who manipulate and contrive to stay popular.

LibertyLover says:

#55, I’m not entirely sure you even agree with that as you’re battling a philosophical argument.

You finally have it figured out.

It is NOT scientific issue.

It is a philosophical issue.

Now — do you really want our government to start making scientific policy based on a philosophical argument?

#56, I assume you were directly that at #55. That being said, Good Post.

Skeptic says:

Re #58, LibertyLover… “I assume you were directly that at #55. That being said, Good Post.”

Yes I was… and thanks.