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	<title>Comments on: Shhhh&#8230; Don&#8217;t tell anyone, but there will be no snow at the Winter Olympics</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not have it in Alberta?  Its always snowing there.</description>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34 Good to see you hard at work avoiding reality. I hope that&#039;s what your therapist told you to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34 Good to see you hard at work avoiding reality. I hope that&#8217;s what your therapist told you to do.</p>
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		<title>By: deowll</title>
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		<dc:creator>deowll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I will leave this one alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I will leave this one alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33, Denier,

&lt;i&gt;When a season gets warmer than usual in any given location
… it’s global warming.

When a season gets colder than usual in any given location
… it’s climate change

When seasonal storm activity is more than usual in any given location
… it’s global warming.

When seasonal storm activity is less than usual in any given location
… it’s climate change.

When a season is warmer and drier than usual in any given location
… it’s global warming.

When a season is colder and wetter than usual in any given location
… it’s global warming.&lt;/i&gt;

I know you&#039;re trying to funny, but come on, really now. All you are doing is feeding the idiots that don&#039;t understand the difference between weather and climate. Posting such funny stuff to people that think you&#039;re serious is just wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33, Denier,</p>
<p><i>When a season gets warmer than usual in any given location<br />
… it’s global warming.</p>
<p>When a season gets colder than usual in any given location<br />
… it’s climate change</p>
<p>When seasonal storm activity is more than usual in any given location<br />
… it’s global warming.</p>
<p>When seasonal storm activity is less than usual in any given location<br />
… it’s climate change.</p>
<p>When a season is warmer and drier than usual in any given location<br />
… it’s global warming.</p>
<p>When a season is colder and wetter than usual in any given location<br />
… it’s global warming.</i></p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re trying to funny, but come on, really now. All you are doing is feeding the idiots that don&#8217;t understand the difference between weather and climate. Posting such funny stuff to people that think you&#8217;re serious is just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/01/20/shhhh-dont-tell-anyone-but-there-will-be-no-snow-at-the-winter-olympics/comment-page-2/#comment-1624604</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a season gets warmer than usual in any given location
... it&#039;s global warming.

When a season gets colder than usual in any given location
... it&#039;s climate change

When seasonal storm activity is more than usual in any given location
... it&#039;s global warming.

When seasonal storm activity is less than usual in any given location
... it&#039;s climate change.

When a season is warmer and drier than usual in any given location
... it&#039;s global warming.

When a season is colder and wetter than usual in any given location
... it&#039;s global warming.

Many of you are not old enough to remember this, but before 300 years ago the seasonal weather in any given location never changed. Every year was so exactly the same, that you could depend 100% that your crops wouldn&#039;t suddenly be in a warm dry growing season when the year before it was wet and cold. If you got an average high of 81 degrees and 47 inches of rain... it would be the same every year for eternity. ...Or so we thought. 

Frozen oranges in Florida. Climate change or global warming?

Hint, cold winds from Canada have never blown south since the beginning of time... until now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a season gets warmer than usual in any given location<br />
&#8230; it&#8217;s global warming.</p>
<p>When a season gets colder than usual in any given location<br />
&#8230; it&#8217;s climate change</p>
<p>When seasonal storm activity is more than usual in any given location<br />
&#8230; it&#8217;s global warming.</p>
<p>When seasonal storm activity is less than usual in any given location<br />
&#8230; it&#8217;s climate change.</p>
<p>When a season is warmer and drier than usual in any given location<br />
&#8230; it&#8217;s global warming.</p>
<p>When a season is colder and wetter than usual in any given location<br />
&#8230; it&#8217;s global warming.</p>
<p>Many of you are not old enough to remember this, but before 300 years ago the seasonal weather in any given location never changed. Every year was so exactly the same, that you could depend 100% that your crops wouldn&#8217;t suddenly be in a warm dry growing season when the year before it was wet and cold. If you got an average high of 81 degrees and 47 inches of rain&#8230; it would be the same every year for eternity. &#8230;Or so we thought. </p>
<p>Frozen oranges in Florida. Climate change or global warming?</p>
<p>Hint, cold winds from Canada have never blown south since the beginning of time&#8230; until now.</p>
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		<title>By: meetsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>meetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RGB...
I don&#039;t know where you are, but I&#039;m IN THE Pacific Northwest...and we&#039;ve had several days of unseasonably warm weather, following several weeks of unseasonably warm rains.  The rivers are overflowing with snow pack run-off.    
   Don&#039;t speak unless you are HERE.   
   As for Whistler opening early...duh, everything around here opened early because we had snow in early November...and really, really cold temps for a few weeks. But, weather changes, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RGB&#8230;<br />
I don&#8217;t know where you are, but I&#8217;m IN THE Pacific Northwest&#8230;and we&#8217;ve had several days of unseasonably warm weather, following several weeks of unseasonably warm rains.  The rivers are overflowing with snow pack run-off.<br />
   Don&#8217;t speak unless you are HERE.<br />
   As for Whistler opening early&#8230;duh, everything around here opened early because we had snow in early November&#8230;and really, really cold temps for a few weeks. But, weather changes, man.</p>
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		<title>By: meetsy</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/01/20/shhhh-dont-tell-anyone-but-there-will-be-no-snow-at-the-winter-olympics/comment-page-2/#comment-1624591</link>
		<dc:creator>meetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY!  It&#039;s a CANADIAN ARTICLE!  It&#039;s all they&#039;re talking about on the CBC in British Columbia.  And, yes, usually there is more snow..but we&#039;ve had an unseasonably warm period...
   Cypress Mountain is the issue -- that&#039;s the venue for most part of the Olympics -- snowboarding and freestyle-skiing courses.
    Whistler, meanwhile, is on the verge of a bankruptcy auction....during the Olympics

Vancouver, the city, doesn&#039;t get much snow, no. But the whole damn place is surrounded by MOUNTAINS.  Check the map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY!  It&#8217;s a CANADIAN ARTICLE!  It&#8217;s all they&#8217;re talking about on the CBC in British Columbia.  And, yes, usually there is more snow..but we&#8217;ve had an unseasonably warm period&#8230;<br />
   Cypress Mountain is the issue &#8212; that&#8217;s the venue for most part of the Olympics &#8212; snowboarding and freestyle-skiing courses.<br />
    Whistler, meanwhile, is on the verge of a bankruptcy auction&#8230;.during the Olympics</p>
<p>Vancouver, the city, doesn&#8217;t get much snow, no. But the whole damn place is surrounded by MOUNTAINS.  Check the map.</p>
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		<title>By: vancouver 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>vancouver 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16  Another dumb American. Go back to your couch and watch TV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16  Another dumb American. Go back to your couch and watch TV</p>
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		<title>By: rectagon</title>
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		<dc:creator>rectagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are another 15 world class ski hills within a 5 hour drive from Vancouver.  One of them will have what they need to do this if hauling snow from up higher doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are another 15 world class ski hills within a 5 hour drive from Vancouver.  One of them will have what they need to do this if hauling snow from up higher doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how long before the media and various environmental groups claim this is proof of global warming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how long before the media and various environmental groups claim this is proof of global warming?</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/01/20/shhhh-dont-tell-anyone-but-there-will-be-no-snow-at-the-winter-olympics/comment-page-2/#comment-1624513</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 said: &quot;Until recent years, the City of Vancouver was lucky to see one day of snow.&quot;

Why did you have to say that. Now, the lefty loons &amp; warmers in here won&#039;t be able to sleep at night. Reality doesn&#039;t work for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 said: &#8220;Until recent years, the City of Vancouver was lucky to see one day of snow.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why did you have to say that. Now, the lefty loons &amp; warmers in here won&#8217;t be able to sleep at night. Reality doesn&#8217;t work for them.</p>
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		<title>By: The0ne</title>
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		<dc:creator>The0ne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other news, my hometown of San Diego has been hit with gusty winds and rainfall for about a week now.

By DU&#039;s standard, hell is above to surface on the entire world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other news, my hometown of San Diego has been hit with gusty winds and rainfall for about a week now.</p>
<p>By DU&#8217;s standard, hell is above to surface on the entire world!</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Echoing chuck, the snow base at Whistler, the main Olympic site, the snow base is currently 9 1/2 feet after opening the ski season 2 weeks early due to record snow falls.
http://tinyurl.com/83l83

Besides that, new natural snow is the worse thing that could happen for the Olympics there. The down hill must artificially groom the snow to hard, compact icy snow for the skiers.  They would have to remove any unexpected natural stuff.

At the lesser Cypress Mountain location overlooking the city, all the required snow has already been warehoused at higher elevations. Sports like moguls and aerials don&#039;t require much snow.

Until recent years, the City of Vancouver was lucky to see one day of snow.

I&#039;m not sure how much snow is needed for the hockey, speed skating, curling figure skating and other &lt;i&gt;indoor&lt;/i&gt; events.

RBG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Echoing chuck, the snow base at Whistler, the main Olympic site, the snow base is currently 9 1/2 feet after opening the ski season 2 weeks early due to record snow falls.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/83l83" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/83l83' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/83l83</a></p>
<p>Besides that, new natural snow is the worse thing that could happen for the Olympics there. The down hill must artificially groom the snow to hard, compact icy snow for the skiers.  They would have to remove any unexpected natural stuff.</p>
<p>At the lesser Cypress Mountain location overlooking the city, all the required snow has already been warehoused at higher elevations. Sports like moguls and aerials don&#8217;t require much snow.</p>
<p>Until recent years, the City of Vancouver was lucky to see one day of snow.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how much snow is needed for the hockey, speed skating, curling figure skating and other <i>indoor</i> events.</p>
<p>RBG</p>
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		<title>By: Faxon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faxon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Olympics? Geez. Now we have the stupid crap every two years??? Make it go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Olympics? Geez. Now we have the stupid crap every two years??? Make it go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Most ski resorts make their own snow
Tricky when its +7C

&gt;What will be the carbon footprint of trucking in all the snow?
They are only snowcatting it from the other side of the mountain - although they may have to use helicopters !

It&#039;s ok though - Vanoc have some hydrogen powered cars for officials. Unfortunately they are trucking in the hydrogen from Quebec (3000km away)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Most ski resorts make their own snow<br />
Tricky when its +7C</p>
<p>&gt;What will be the carbon footprint of trucking in all the snow?<br />
They are only snowcatting it from the other side of the mountain &#8211; although they may have to use helicopters !</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok though &#8211; Vanoc have some hydrogen powered cars for officials. Unfortunately they are trucking in the hydrogen from Quebec (3000km away)</p>
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