Benjamin says:

Mormons are pretty good people. They are just confused by so many lies and really weird stuff that Joseph Smith added to regular Christianity, that the actually truth of Christianity is obscured by the volumes of non-sense called the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Book of Abraham, and their Doctrine and Covenants.

The book of Abraham is where some of the really weird beliefs are. That is where they get into the stuff about ruling your own planet. There is weird stuff that happens in those Mormon temples too.

I like Mormons because they are really nice. I just feel bad that Mormons are confused by the lies that Joseph Smith told.

Dallas says:

#42 Organized religion is the greatest scam and money pyramid in all of human history.

Having said that, religion does serve to keep some people from flying off the handle. I have nothing against ‘spiritual’ people.

The organized, money making and brain washing scam of organized religion is what’s a travesty.

Benjamin says:

By the nature of religion, there can only be one true religion. Various religions disagree with one another on different things, so only one can be true. Since that is the case I feel sorry for everyone not of my religion because they are wrong.

Buzz says:

And the Bullshit Meter says…

Obviously this is a passionate attempt to stir up negative feelings. A cry for recognition from a bully.

How many of the factoids presented hold water? How much of any religion holds water?

Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection says:

This is some shit I could believe in.

//after several drinks.

meetsy says:

All the reasons I do not like, do not want to be associated with, and cannot stand “discussing’ religion. It’s all batshit, crap, and lies.

Surfer Dude says:

Yes its a CULT!!!!!!!!!!! Now its mean to say that..

Special Ed says:

You know what they say – when God takes a dump he opens a window.

//or something like that.

deowll says:

Exactly who made this video and why? I looked but I didn’t see any evidence that the Mormon Church authorized this film or any evidence that anyone was willing to claim it.

Gilgamesh says:

#56 –
You know, fair enough, I guess it cuts both ways. The broad appeal of Mormonism really is two things at once: a) the appeal to something new and b) the ‘recovery’ of something ancient — something at once ‘gnostic’ and immediate and yet something also closer to the ‘source.’ In Mormonism, there is an openness to “new” and “personal” revelation, largely in opposition to Catholic orthodoxy, which understandably cuts the sanction of that kind of thing off for institutional reasons — and which the ‘modern’ Mormon church has increasingly necessarily done also for institutional reasons, which is beginning to expose for a lot of “cultural Mormons” many of the exact kinds of things that Catholics have been able to iron out many years — and perhaps more easily because Catholicism is virtually by definition anti-gnostic.

Being a certain type of ex-Mormon, I tend to see Mormonism as ‘out there’ and Scientology as more so ‘out there,’ but also the cartoon that started this conversation is actually in tone closer to scientology than Mormonism.

Within Mormonism there is a definite “fuzziness” that is ascribed to all the things that the cartoon (in my estimation) severely reifies. In other words, there is a Catholic type of “mystery” that maintains in the temperament of the teaching of the “Book of Abraham” which is that book that discusses in specificity things like “Kolob.” This fuzziness maintains even at the “highest levels” of the LDS hierarchy. The idea that this stuff is talked about in reified terms, even in “the temples” as the cartoon portrays is simply not true.

In contrast, however, Scientology is clearly less abashed about reifying such narratives. Which is fine… I guess… That’s not something I care about, and readily ascend to the opinion that fiction is fiction. …and so on and so forth… this is a big, big topic, the only thing I can ask is for you to “get my drift.” And in that, the best I can hope is to but confirm by experience what someone else as a critical reader/viewer probably already intuits for themselves. The rest is just baiting, berating, and otherwise mere talk.