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Putting American? Better double check your heading.
Roads seem better than wars and banker bonuses to me.
Hey that’s Joe the Plumber in the background!!
I go by the official sign on the top.
The bottom shoe strung sign placed illegally by the GOP mafia is to undermine the economic recovery.
It is also there to ridicule workers benefiting from reinvesting in American infrastructure.
bottom sign, yellow logo silhouette : is that a ball and chain on the silhouette’s leg?
LMAO
I bet workers tore that down within the hour.
Yes clearly our $12+ trillion debt is completely caused by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have nothing to do with our debt.
Translation of #4: Baaaaaaaaaah aaah aah.
Gotta smile.
Well, our infastructure is falling apart almost as much as our economy. IIRC, every $1 put into highways nets $4 in overall economic gain. So, yes, this is not a war, gulag, banker/big business bailout but rather something actually useful.
Hmmm. Time to think logically now..
That sign is not handwritten, but is professionally printed on what appears to be quality media.
Not inexpensive.
My guess is that it was taken down by whomever put it up immediately after the picture was taken.
Perhaps you lefties can retaliate by spray painting the word ‘War’ on some Stop signs or something…
@#7 That is not the point… Point is that people have elected new administration believing its claims to change direction. Instead, administration have pressed pedal to the metal and sped up getting into the further debt by order of magnitude faster (literally: Bush insanity deficit numbers were almost exactly 10 times less than Obama). If you are in debt due to the previous administration and you do everything to cut it and spending – that is reasonable. If you are on debt from previous administration and think people chose you to dramatically increase it – you are either insane or driven by other concerns than well being of the country.
And yet…people keep dying in our ‘Non-Newsworthy Wars’, our ‘Non-Newsworthy Homelessness’, and we keep paying the banks and the Corporations now have more rights than the Citizens. 5314 Dead in Iraq, can’t find an official number of dead in Afghanistan, 30 Million + out of work, and Bankers complaining their Yachts ain’t big enough.
May you live in interesting times indeed.
Where is this mysterious workforce? I certainly don’t see any in San Diego here.
0 people working = 0 productivity = 0 anything
Maybe I need to go check the closed parks and stuff for working people there. Maybe the streets and highways are intentionally left shtty so when they do work they have more work to do.
If anyone see any of the city workers working please take a snapshot and post it here so some of us can “feel” better about this whole reinvestment thing.
If people are going to work on this construction project instead of having to get unemployment, that’s probably a good result. If you’re working, you’re contributing.
There is a lot of infrastructure in the US that needs repair or rebuilding. See the I-35 bridge collapse in Minneapolis a couple years ago as one example of many.
On the other hand, the bottom sign isn’t helpful, since all it benefited was the sign maker.
#12, Bush deficit numbers never included the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, whereas Obama deficit numbers do, so please, don’t compare apples to oranges.
Is the work they are talking about the work of making the signs?
#4. What workers? Has anyone seen any work being done where these signs are posted? I have not.
How is this helping?!
Build nuclear power plants, oil refineries.
Build something. I don’t mean more infrastructure either. We need to manufacture stuff in this country again.
#16 So that makes it better. Sheeple!
It would be better if these jobs produced products which could be sold as profit which would create more private jobs. Instead these are government jobs which are from tax dollars.
Which we have none so we borrow from China.
Oh and China GDP is said to be close to double digit recovery? Imagine that? You know what they did? They gave coupons for large appliances? Yes, they were made in China. We need road and bridges repaired. But do not call it stimulus. Call it basic rebuilding of our infrastructure we should have been doing anyway!
It is a joke people. We appear to be way past due for space aliens to stop by and save us all from sarcastic sign makers.
Gee, I guess Obama is making the country broke by investing in roads. Maybe he should wage a war on a country that never attacked us, or give bailouts to big banks instead. Oh wait, Bush already did that… Not to mention the costs of the Iraq war were NOT put in the budget, but raised as “emergency” spending bills.
Perhaps if they would take money away from the defense department, and give it to the DOT, we might have better roads, and fewer wars.
Maybe if we stopped researching better ways to kill people, and spent it on how to heal people, and give EVERYONE medical care, we might have healthier people, and fewer wars.
Why all the talk about construction work? Why are we bailing out the construction industry (and by extension, the material suppliers to the construction industry, concrete, steel, etc.) Because the construction industry has “overbuilt” itself and does not want to cut back either.
There is a point in every geographic area where there are enough buildings for the population, and the only need for construction is repair and replacement, not for new big projects for the “edifice complex” crowd. America, as a whole, simply has enough buildings. It is the movement of people into other geographic areas that is causing the illusion of “growth” for those specific geographic areas, and building new buildings makes the construction industry very happy.
Anyway, not everyone can work in a construction job. Most baby boomers can’t take the heat – the summer heat, the hot sun. They also cannot do heavy physical labor all day either, no matter how well they did it in their 20s. Age takes its toll on the human body.
And that is just one of many reasons this country is headed into the Great Depression of the early 21st century. The fake-optimists say it isn’t a Great Depression, but they aren’t putting their own money into removing the Great Depression, they always want someone else’s money to do it, or, when those “someone else’s” don’t appear, then they say the government’s money is required, even if it has to be borrowed.
I gotta stop this grumble, grumble.
#24 Tony, good points, but I think we assumed this is road/bridge construction, which is sorely needed.
#20 Psst… little pedro. If you’re going to pretend to be a bipartisan basher rather than just another right-wing hack, you need to try a little harder. The point being made here, my little bonehead, is that Dubya deceitfully kept the Iraq and Afghanistan wars off the books, thus hiding the true cost from the American public. This is something a bipartisan basher (hint hint) would criticize. If Obama is putting the war back on the books, he should be complimented for being honest with the American people.
So try harder next time OK little pedro? Your right-wing bias is showing.
SOP answer..
AS more people become Unemployed..
Business tax should rise, as the GOV puts those extra persons to work..
The MORE work there is the LOWER the taxes should become.
THATS how it should work.
But LOGIC hasnt ruled in this country for decades..
actually, I don’t mind fixing the highways, as long as they use American workers. However, have you ever seen the prices paid to these projects? The contractors make out …the workers get paid slightly better, the citizens who pay are paying 5x the going rate for the same work in the private sector. Ever wonder why construction company heads drive such nice trucks?
Ah, yeah…
After the “real” crash (initial signs possibly showing up tomorrow) -We’ll all be building the new NASCO Super Corridor at a slave wages (if at all) for our new/old Banker slave owners.
Need a clue as to where to move to find work after congress flat-lines the country? Try this map of the initial NASCO “trade route”. **Notice the FAT extra-wide corridor between Chicago and Detroit**
-perhaps a convenient coincidence that many of the White House cabinet seems to have roots in Chicago, including the messiah, eh?
oh, don’t forget this related Aug, 10, 2009 press release from the White House to help you connect the dots.. JOINT STATEMENT BY NORTH AMERICAN LEADERS
I’d like to see a map overlaid with a map of all those nifty FEMA camps they have been building up since mid the 2000’s. It would not surprise me if there is a decent concentration of those nifty (600+ -rail accessible)) FEMA Camps they’ve been building for us “illegals” along the corridor..
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-anyway.. the “Ball & Chain” @ work sign is a nice touch..get used to seeing it.
-s
#26 The only ones trying hard to avoid reality (because it hurts to much) it’s you and you fellowship of the sheeple.
How’s that change working for ya?
This is a little sideways – but if we want to start reigning in our debt we need to do something about health care. Yeah I know everybody is bored and frustrated about that, but it really is a huge part of the debt problem. Here is a graph from Jan national geographic.
http://exiledonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/6a00e0098226918833012876a6070f970c-800wi1.jpeg
More on the topic – at least building the roads is actually doing something useful for the country. As opposed to bailing out failed banks, and insurance institutions so they can carry on paying huge bonuses.
A federal spending surge of more than $20 billion for roads and bridges in President Barack Obama’s first stimulus has had no effect on local unemployment rates, raising questions about his argument for billions more to address an “urgent need to accelerate job growth.”
#16 just me “Bush deficit numbers never included the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, whereas Obama deficit numbers do, so please, don’t compare apples to oranges.”
How about comparing your post to reality? Some of the war funding was submitted to Congress as “emergency” supplemental funding plans but not all. I think around 2007 or 2008 it was included in the regular budget.
# 23 Rabble Rouser “Gee, I guess Obama is making the country broke by investing in roads. Maybe he should wage a war on a country that never attacked us, or give bailouts to big banks…..”
He did and continues to do so.
“Not to mention the costs of the Iraq war were NOT put in the budget, but raised as “emergency” spending bills.”
Not all of it, get your facts stright.
“Maybe if we stopped researching better ways to kill people, and spent it on how to heal people, and give EVERYONE medical care, we might have healthier people, and fewer wars.”
Oh! Come on you people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
Come on you people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
Forget your left/right paradigm it’s a stratagem used to divide and conquer America. Wake up people.
The problem with infrastructure and jobs is the lag. Anyone who has built a house should understand this. Surveys, permits, engineering, environmental impact studies, more permits, obtaining rights, buying properties, the bidding process, and it goes on and on. Some of these projects can take years before equipment rolls. You also have interagency conflicts and pissing contests. Did I mention members of Congress getting involved in their districts projects and local politics?
NewsBusters — Open Thread: A different type of stop sign
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2010/01/27/open-thread
Hey nitwits. A contract from the government to create work, yup, when the work is done so is that job.
lol, look at unemployment numbers: We went from 10.3% to 10% but that same week we lost 17,000 more jobs. Heck, by the governments numbers if we lose 17,000 jobs a week for the next 30 weeks, we will be at zero for those unemployed.
No No, I got it, lets say I am going to do a spending freeze, but raise all the budgets of those departments affected by 35%. yeah a spending freeze.
All I have to say is YES Obama, pleae go a help Harry R. in his re-election. Yeah yeah yeah
With Obama in office I guess I’m just being overly cautious to anything associated with new government programs but it just seems a lot of the symbols used to promote these programs use the same big “O” design.
Read all of the Lefty posts here…talk about LEMMINGS!
Actually WALL STREET put is in debt, followed by the military industrial complex, and corrupt spendthrift leaders.
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