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	<title>Comments on: Putting America to Work or in Debt?</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/01/25/putting-american-to-work-or-in-debt/comment-page-3/#comment-1627484</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually WALL STREET put is in debt, followed by the military industrial complex, and corrupt spendthrift leaders.</description>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/01/25/putting-american-to-work-or-in-debt/comment-page-2/#comment-1626612</link>
		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read all of the Lefty posts here...talk about LEMMINGS!</description>
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		<title>By: kle57</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/01/25/putting-american-to-work-or-in-debt/comment-page-2/#comment-1626388</link>
		<dc:creator>kle57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Obama in office I guess I&#039;m just being overly cautious to anything associated with new government programs but it just seems a lot of the symbols used to promote these programs use the same big &quot;O&quot; design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Obama in office I guess I&#8217;m just being overly cautious to anything associated with new government programs but it just seems a lot of the symbols used to promote these programs use the same big &#8220;O&#8221; design.</p>
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		<title>By: Fran L</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/01/25/putting-american-to-work-or-in-debt/comment-page-2/#comment-1626364</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey nitwits.  A contract from the government to create work, yup, when the work is done so is that job.

lol, look at unemployment numbers: We went from 10.3% to 10% but that same week we lost 17,000 more jobs.  Heck, by the governments numbers if we lose 17,000 jobs a week for the next 30 weeks, we will be at zero for those unemployed.


No No, I got it, lets say I am going to do a spending freeze, but raise all the budgets of those departments affected by 35%.  yeah a spending freeze.

All I have to say is YES Obama, pleae go a help Harry R. in his re-election.  Yeah yeah yeah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey nitwits.  A contract from the government to create work, yup, when the work is done so is that job.</p>
<p>lol, look at unemployment numbers: We went from 10.3% to 10% but that same week we lost 17,000 more jobs.  Heck, by the governments numbers if we lose 17,000 jobs a week for the next 30 weeks, we will be at zero for those unemployed.</p>
<p>No No, I got it, lets say I am going to do a spending freeze, but raise all the budgets of those departments affected by 35%.  yeah a spending freeze.</p>
<p>All I have to say is YES Obama, pleae go a help Harry R. in his re-election.  Yeah yeah yeah</p>
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		<title>By: StewartIII</title>
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		<dc:creator>StewartIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NewsBusters -- Open Thread: A different type of stop sign
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2010/01/27/open-thread</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NewsBusters &#8212; Open Thread: A different type of stop sign<br />
<a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2010/01/27/open-thread" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2010/01/27/open-thread' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2010/01/27/open-thread</a></p>
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		<title>By: RTaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>RTaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with infrastructure and jobs is the lag.  Anyone who has built a house should understand this. Surveys, permits, engineering, environmental impact studies, more permits, obtaining rights, buying properties, the bidding process, and it goes on and on.  Some of these projects can take years before equipment rolls.  You also have interagency conflicts and pissing contests.  Did I mention members of Congress getting involved in their districts projects and local politics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with infrastructure and jobs is the lag.  Anyone who has built a house should understand this. Surveys, permits, engineering, environmental impact studies, more permits, obtaining rights, buying properties, the bidding process, and it goes on and on.  Some of these projects can take years before equipment rolls.  You also have interagency conflicts and pissing contests.  Did I mention members of Congress getting involved in their districts projects and local politics?</p>
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		<title>By: sobriquetOH</title>
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		<dc:creator>sobriquetOH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget your left/right paradigm it&#039;s a stratagem used to divide and conquer America. Wake up people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget your left/right paradigm it&#8217;s a stratagem used to divide and conquer America. Wake up people.</p>
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		<title>By: Loupe Garou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loupe Garou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 23 Rabble Rouser &quot;Gee, I guess Obama is making the country broke by investing in roads. Maybe he should wage a war on a country that never attacked us, or give bailouts to big banks.....&quot;

He did and continues to do so.


&quot;Not to mention the costs of the Iraq war were NOT put in the budget, but raised as “emergency” spending bills.&quot;

Not all of it, get your facts stright.

&quot;Maybe if we stopped researching better ways to kill people, and spent it on how to heal people, and give EVERYONE medical care, we might have healthier people, and fewer wars.&quot;

Oh! Come on you people now 
Smile on your brother 
Everybody get together 
Try to love one another right now 
Come on you people now 
Smile on your brother 
Everybody get together 
Try to love one another right now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 23 Rabble Rouser &#8220;Gee, I guess Obama is making the country broke by investing in roads. Maybe he should wage a war on a country that never attacked us, or give bailouts to big banks&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>He did and continues to do so.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not to mention the costs of the Iraq war were NOT put in the budget, but raised as “emergency” spending bills.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not all of it, get your facts stright.</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe if we stopped researching better ways to kill people, and spent it on how to heal people, and give EVERYONE medical care, we might have healthier people, and fewer wars.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh! Come on you people now<br />
Smile on your brother<br />
Everybody get together<br />
Try to love one another right now<br />
Come on you people now<br />
Smile on your brother<br />
Everybody get together<br />
Try to love one another right now</p>
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		<title>By: Loupe Garou</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/01/25/putting-american-to-work-or-in-debt/comment-page-2/#comment-1625831</link>
		<dc:creator>Loupe Garou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 just me &quot;Bush deficit numbers never included the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, whereas Obama deficit numbers do, so please, don’t compare apples to oranges.&quot;

How about comparing your post to reality? Some of the war funding was submitted to Congress as “emergency” supplemental funding plans but not all. I think around 2007 or 2008 it was included in the regular budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 just me &#8220;Bush deficit numbers never included the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, whereas Obama deficit numbers do, so please, don’t compare apples to oranges.&#8221;</p>
<p>How about comparing your post to reality? Some of the war funding was submitted to Congress as “emergency” supplemental funding plans but not all. I think around 2007 or 2008 it was included in the regular budget.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/01/25/putting-american-to-work-or-in-debt/comment-page-2/#comment-1625829</link>
		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;A federal spending surge of more than $20 billion for roads and bridges in President Barack Obama&#039;s first stimulus has had no effect on local unemployment rates, raising questions about his argument for billions more to address an &quot;urgent need to accelerate job growth.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

http://tinyurl.com/yje9nlf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>A federal spending surge of more than $20 billion for roads and bridges in President Barack Obama&#8217;s first stimulus has had no effect on local unemployment rates, raising questions about his argument for billions more to address an &#8220;urgent need to accelerate job growth.&#8221;</b></p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yje9nlf" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/yje9nlf' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yje9nlf</a></p>
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		<title>By: freddybobs68k</title>
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		<dc:creator>freddybobs68k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a little sideways - but if we want to start reigning in our debt we need to do something about health care. Yeah I know everybody is bored and frustrated about that, but it really is a huge part of the debt problem. Here is a graph from Jan national geographic. 

http://exiledonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/6a00e0098226918833012876a6070f970c-800wi1.jpeg

More on the topic - at least building the roads is actually doing something useful for the country. As opposed to bailing out failed banks, and insurance institutions so they can carry on paying huge bonuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a little sideways &#8211; but if we want to start reigning in our debt we need to do something about health care. Yeah I know everybody is bored and frustrated about that, but it really is a huge part of the debt problem. Here is a graph from Jan national geographic. </p>
<p><a href="http://exiledonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/6a00e0098226918833012876a6070f970c-800wi1.jpeg" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://exiledonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/6a00e0098226918833012876a6070f970c-800wi1.jpeg' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://exiledonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/6a00e0098226918833012876a6070f970c-800wi1.jpeg</a></p>
<p>More on the topic &#8211; at least building the roads is actually doing something useful for the country. As opposed to bailing out failed banks, and insurance institutions so they can carry on paying huge bonuses.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 The only ones trying hard to avoid reality (because it hurts to much) it&#039;s you and you fellowship of the sheeple.

How&#039;s that change working for ya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 The only ones trying hard to avoid reality (because it hurts to much) it&#8217;s you and you fellowship of the sheeple.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that change working for ya?</p>
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		<title>By: soundwash</title>
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		<dc:creator>soundwash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yeah...

After the &quot;real&quot; crash (initial signs possibly showing up tomorrow) -We&#039;ll all be building the new &lt;a href=&quot;http://nascocorridor.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;NASCO Super Corridor&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt; at a slave wages (if at all) for our new/old Banker slave owners.

Need a clue as to where to move to find work after congress flat-lines the country?  Try this map of the initial &lt;a href=&quot;http://soundwash.net/public/pics/nafta_map.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;NASCO &quot;trade route&quot;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. **Notice the FAT extra-wide corridor between Chicago and Detroit** 

-perhaps a convenient coincidence that many of the White House cabinet seems to have roots in Chicago, including the messiah, eh?

oh, don&#039;t forget this related Aug, 10, 2009 press release from the White House to help you connect the dots.. &lt;a href=&quot;http://whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Joint-statement-by-North-American-leaders/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;JOINT STATEMENT BY NORTH AMERICAN LEADERS&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I&#039;d like to see a map overlaid with a map of all those nifty FEMA camps they have been building up since mid the 2000&#039;s. It would not surprise me if there is a decent concentration of those nifty (600+ -rail accessible)) FEMA Camps they&#039;ve been building for us &quot;illegals&quot; along the corridor..

--

-anyway.. the &quot;Ball &amp; Chain&quot; @ work sign is a nice touch..get used to seeing it.

-s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yeah&#8230;</p>
<p>After the &#8220;real&#8221; crash (initial signs possibly showing up tomorrow) -We&#8217;ll all be building the new <a href="http://nascocorridor.com/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>NASCO Super Corridor</u></a> at a slave wages (if at all) for our new/old Banker slave owners.</p>
<p>Need a clue as to where to move to find work after congress flat-lines the country?  Try this map of the initial <a href="http://soundwash.net/public/pics/nafta_map.jpg" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>NASCO &#8220;trade route&#8221;</u></a>. **Notice the FAT extra-wide corridor between Chicago and Detroit** </p>
<p>-perhaps a convenient coincidence that many of the White House cabinet seems to have roots in Chicago, including the messiah, eh?</p>
<p>oh, don&#8217;t forget this related Aug, 10, 2009 press release from the White House to help you connect the dots.. <a href="http://whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Joint-statement-by-North-American-leaders/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u>JOINT STATEMENT BY NORTH AMERICAN LEADERS</u></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see a map overlaid with a map of all those nifty FEMA camps they have been building up since mid the 2000&#8242;s. It would not surprise me if there is a decent concentration of those nifty (600+ -rail accessible)) FEMA Camps they&#8217;ve been building for us &#8220;illegals&#8221; along the corridor..</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>-anyway.. the &#8220;Ball &amp; Chain&#8221; @ work sign is a nice touch..get used to seeing it.</p>
<p>-s</p>
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		<title>By: meetsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>meetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, I don&#039;t mind fixing the highways, as long as they use American workers. However, have you ever seen the prices paid to these projects?  The contractors make out ...the workers get paid slightly better, the citizens who pay are paying 5x the going rate for the same work in the private sector.   Ever wonder why construction company heads drive such nice trucks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, I don&#8217;t mind fixing the highways, as long as they use American workers. However, have you ever seen the prices paid to these projects?  The contractors make out &#8230;the workers get paid slightly better, the citizens who pay are paying 5x the going rate for the same work in the private sector.   Ever wonder why construction company heads drive such nice trucks?</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOP answer..

AS more people become Unemployed..
Business tax should rise, as the GOV puts those extra persons to work..
The MORE work there is the LOWER the taxes should become.
THATS how it should work.

But LOGIC hasnt ruled in this country for decades..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOP answer..</p>
<p>AS more people become Unemployed..<br />
Business tax should rise, as the GOV puts those extra persons to work..<br />
The MORE work there is the LOWER the taxes should become.<br />
THATS how it should work.</p>
<p>But LOGIC hasnt ruled in this country for decades..</p>
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