I dont know for sure but is it a coincedence that all these gentlemen ar jewish?
Is this a worldwide conspirency taking Europe and the US downwords and leve them in a financial crisis, so legislation can be changed
and the western world becomes more a digital controled police state? Who is in control you think?

Well good luck finding it out!

Of course big organizations breed corruption, because humans run them and humans by nature have their own interests as priority #1. The difference between corruption in business and corruption in government is business gets your participation on a voluntary basis, but government gets your participation by force. Extortion is irresponsible, and is the basis for all that is government. A $9 million dollar bonus to a man who doesn’t deserve it is irresponsible, but it is the owner of that company’s right to pay him that. If it’s the wrong decision, market forces will cause that company to fail, and in a truly free market economy, it would fail, without government bail outs coming from taxing citizen slaves.

Rules are necessary, but they should come organically, from individuals interacting with each other on a consensual basis, not from some guy dressed in a robe sitting on high. Human nature is predictable, we’re all selfish to one degree or another. That’s all you can count on. If you expect a representative that you “elect” to put your interests ahead of his own you must be on something really, really strong. The kind of “fairy tale” capitalism I speak of banks on the fact that all humans are selfish, and takes advantage of that fact so we all become more productive while living as freely as humanly possible. I dare say you are the one living in a fairy tale if you think giving people power, then turning around and expecting them to use it for your benefit ahead of theirs, is a realistic goal. Government is not necessary. It is a bane on the human spirit. For the government is just another version of a slave master, one that we have been cajoled into believing is necessary and good but in fact is a blood sucking tyrant.

So exactly why does a Goldman CEO get a $9,000,000 bonus?

Large organizations of any kind breed corruption… from religions to government. Everything has gotten out of hand. A 9 million dollar bonus to one man in an irresponsible, economically threatening company, illustrates that perfectly. The fairy tale kind of capitalism you envision can’t possibly exist on this earth unless you can change the nature of mankind first. Rules are necessary. Government is necessary. Human nature is predictable. There is a balance between all those things that has allowed us to prosper. What we have to do now is get things back in balance, toned down and cleaned up.

I think you meant to say their net worth was negatively impacted. To have a negative income the CEO would have had to pay money to his employer to retain his job. The closest to that situation I know of is several CEOs working for a salary of a $1 for the year.

“the natural process of capitalism is the process in which one person wants something and another person has it, they perform a trade, without interference from an unwanted 3rd party, in this case, government. ”

Not true. The “natural” process of capitalism moves toward power and corruption… without fail. The government was not an unwanted 3rd party. They were a necessary and wanted 3rd party in an unfortunate situation where capitalism went awry. That now has to be fixed by regulations, so that it never happens again. Where we disagree is that free enterprise has to be regulated in ways that prevent an entity from having more power and corruption than the government. You are being way too unrealistic in suggesting that we simply stop buying a product when that happens. Have you stopped buying gas yet?

This will just make things worse.

The dumbest voters in the worst states with the most corrupt senators will just keep their guys in office in response to some emotional appeal — “save the unborn” or “the Mexicans are invading” or “the gays are threatening your marriage” or “the terrorists will kill you”

So who gets voted out? The better of the bunch leaving the worst.

Oh, wait… I’m dreaming. That would require an _informed_ populace. So, when the second crash occurs, we’ll just get screwed again…

What I mean by the natural process of capitalism is the process in which one person wants something and another person has it, they perform a trade, without interference from an unwanted 3rd party, in this case, government. Corporations are privately owned, but are regulated by the government. On first glance, you might think that’s a great idea. This protects the consumer. In an ideal world, this would be true. Unfortunately, those regulations are created by human beings that can be bought by the very same corporations they are regulating! So, for example, if you’re a senator running for re-election and you’re running out of tv ad money, and Corporation X throws millions of dollars your way, don’t you think you’d be willing to vote aye for a piece of legislation buried in a bill 1000 pages long to scratch their back?

The free market protects the consumer better than legislation. If you don’t like what a company is doing, stop patronizing it. The company loses business and if it doesn’t correct the problem soon it will go out of business. If you don’t like (or don’t even know) all the regulations being voted for by your senator, you can wait 6 years to try to vote him out, but as long as he gets more advertising money from that corporation, most people will forget his voting record by then and will be persuaded by his pretty little TV ads.