Comments on: Soldier Accused of Waterboard… er… Disciplining his 4 Year Old Daughter http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:43:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Milton http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-2/#comment-1631991 Milton Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:10:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1631991 I guess we can ask, did the military let this “mental deficient” into their ranks or did they make this normal guy in this “mental deficient”. Even Ronald Reagan said that water boarding was torture, but I guess Cheney and his gay daughter are the brain trust on this lie that has been perpetuated onto the American people and signed off by the GOP. I guess we can ask, did the military let this “mental deficient” into their ranks or did they make this normal guy in this “mental deficient”. Even Ronald Reagan said that water boarding was torture, but I guess Cheney and his gay daughter are the brain trust on this lie that has been perpetuated onto the American people and signed off by the GOP.

]]> By: noname http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-2/#comment-1630358 noname Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:09:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630358 # 26 Santa Maria, you got it right! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fuDDqU6n4o" rel="nofollow">What we got here is... failure to communicate</a>! What we need in our panzie wanzie country is more <a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?How-Discipline-Makes-Parenting-Easier-and-More-Successful!&id=3514993" rel="nofollow">DISCIPLINE!</a> # 26 Santa Maria, you got it right! What we got here is… failure to communicate!

What we need in our panzie wanzie country is more DISCIPLINE!

]]> By: Santa Maria http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-2/#comment-1630193 Santa Maria Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:28:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630193 Whats the problem? This is good way to instil discipline in today's doritos dust farting, video game playing, Michelin man like kids. Whats the problem? This is good way to instil discipline in today’s doritos dust farting, video game playing, Michelin man like kids.

]]> By: Greg Allen http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-2/#comment-1630128 Greg Allen Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:21:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630128 During the lead-up to the Iraq invasion, I WARNED and WARNED AGAIN my conservative friends about the inevitable "blow back" from war. War ALWAYS hurts even the winning country. Just think about the thousands of Vietnam vets who never fully recovered from that war. Think about all the refugees from that region that we had to take into America. The conservative respnse? They called me a Saddam loving terrorist lover who hated troops and loved those gay Dixie Chicks but also loved WMDs and would love America to be nuked by bin Laden. (or some other equally dumpth variation on this.) But, mark my words, the price we will pay for this insane Iraq war is not just he crippling debt. During the lead-up to the Iraq invasion, I WARNED and WARNED AGAIN my conservative friends about the inevitable “blow back” from war.

War ALWAYS hurts even the winning country. Just think about the thousands of Vietnam vets who never fully recovered from that war. Think about all the refugees from that region that we had to take into America.

The conservative respnse? They called me a Saddam loving terrorist lover who hated troops and loved those gay Dixie Chicks but also loved WMDs and would love America to be nuked by bin Laden. (or some other equally dumpth variation on this.)

But, mark my words, the price we will pay for this insane Iraq war is not just he crippling debt.

]]> By: amodedoma http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-2/#comment-1630123 amodedoma Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:11:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630123 If a license is required to drive, it should also be required to parent. Unfortunately it's not, and so a great number of children suffer abuses from the people they depend upon. If a license is required to drive, it should also be required to parent. Unfortunately it’s not, and so a great number of children suffer abuses from the people they depend upon.

]]> By: jescott418 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-2/#comment-1630078 jescott418 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:40:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630078 Uncle Sam needs a few good men and this guy is not one of them. Uncle Sam needs a few good men and this guy is not one of them.

]]> By: Anon http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-2/#comment-1630054 Anon Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:07:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630054 He should have done it 82 more times, everybody knows that nobody talks on the first water board. He should have done it 82 more times, everybody knows that nobody talks on the first water board.

]]> By: noname http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-2/#comment-1630051 noname Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:02:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630051 Torture has always been about abuse of power and not about getting at truth. This just highlights it in a way more people can somehow understand it's abuse. Albeit, I have my doubts this generation of so called "Americans" really do understand their own history. How things change from one generation to the next:: For instance lets compare Prez Dwight D. Eisenhower to draft dodging Bush's Attorney General Alberto Gonzales "From the beginning of this Nation, a man can walk upright, no matter who he is, or who she is. He can walk upright and meet his friend -- or his enemy; and he does not fear that because that enemy may be in a position of great power that he can be suddenly thrown in jail to rot there with-out charges and with no recourse to justice. We have the habeas corpus act, and we respect it." Dwight D. Eisenhower "The Constitution doesn't say every individual in the United States or citizen is hereby granted or assured the right of habeas corpus." Alberto Gonzales Attorney General Torture has always been about abuse of power and not about getting at truth. This just highlights it in a way more people can somehow understand it’s abuse. Albeit, I have my doubts this generation of so called “Americans” really do understand their own history.

How things change from one generation to the next:: For instance lets compare Prez Dwight D. Eisenhower to draft dodging Bush’s Attorney General Alberto Gonzales

“From the beginning of this Nation, a man can walk upright, no matter who he is, or who she is. He can walk upright and meet his friend — or his enemy; and he does not fear that because that enemy may be in a position of great power that he can be suddenly thrown in jail to rot there with-out charges and with no recourse to justice. We have the habeas corpus act, and we respect it.”

Dwight D. Eisenhower

“The Constitution doesn’t say every individual in the United States or citizen is hereby granted or assured the right of habeas corpus.”

Alberto Gonzales
Attorney General

]]> By: Lone Wolf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-1/#comment-1630023 Lone Wolf Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:59:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630023 If he likes torture so much maybe he should be waterboarded until he begs for death then send him home and let him relive the experience every night in his nightmares. Maybe he will do the world a favor and kill himself then. If he likes torture so much maybe he should be waterboarded until he begs for death then send him home and let him relive the experience every night in his nightmares. Maybe he will do the world a favor and kill himself then.

]]> By: Cap'nKangaroo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-1/#comment-1630017 Cap'nKangaroo Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:25:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630017 Here is a link to a Bellingham, WA paper that has a little more info. http://bellinghamherald.com/latestheadlines/story/1274807.html Here is a link to a Bellingham, WA paper that has a little more info.

http://bellinghamherald.com/latestheadlines/story/1274807.html

]]> By: sargasso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-1/#comment-1630016 sargasso Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:24:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630016 Those wacky, Tacomarians. Those wacky, Tacomarians.

]]> By: Cap'nKangaroo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-1/#comment-1630015 Cap'nKangaroo Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:19:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630015 "Her natural mother lives in Kansas but Tabor had been granted custody by a court." Whoa This is the custodial parent? Hate to see what he'll do if she wets her bed. It is people like this that scare me when I hear someone defend corporeal punishment. #15 Don't know why no local news media has picked it up but I did google Sgt Rob Carlson and Yelm, WA and he appears on this page http://.ci.yelm.wa.us/default.asp?dept=police and appears to be either the press contact for the Yelm PD or the biggest PR hound on the force, since he is quoted in at least two other recent stories. http://thenewstribune.com/news/local/yelm/story/965534.html http://thenewstribune.com/news/local/yelm/story/850823.html “Her natural mother lives in Kansas but Tabor had been granted custody by a court.”

Whoa This is the custodial parent? Hate to see what he’ll do if she wets her bed. It is people like this that scare me when I hear someone defend corporeal punishment.

#15 Don’t know why no local news media has picked it up but I did google Sgt Rob Carlson and Yelm, WA and he appears on this page

http://.ci.yelm.wa.us/default.asp?dept=police

and appears to be either the press contact for the Yelm PD or the biggest PR hound on the force, since he is quoted in at least two other recent stories.

http://thenewstribune.com/news/local/yelm/story/965534.html

http://thenewstribune.com/news/local/yelm/story/850823.html

]]> By: noname http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-1/#comment-1630007 noname Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:21:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1630007 This is soo soo American, "Torture does the body good". If it's good enough to terrorist, it's good enough for children. Now let's start doing this on all delinquent youth everywhere. And don't forget those dumb miscreant Adults also deserve a water boarding or two. I am sure, if at least did it just too illegal immigrants, our illustrious Supreme Court would rule it legal!!!! I can see the bumper stickers now, "My son or daughter is a honor student because I water-board them. Go America!!!!" This is soo soo American, “Torture does the body good”. If it’s good enough to terrorist, it’s good enough for children.

Now let’s start doing this on all delinquent youth everywhere. And don’t forget those dumb miscreant Adults also deserve a water boarding or two.

I am sure, if at least did it just too illegal immigrants, our illustrious Supreme Court would rule it legal!!!!

I can see the bumper stickers now, “My son or daughter is a honor student because I water-board them. Go America!!!!”

]]> By: Tsalagi http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-1/#comment-1629997 Tsalagi Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:11:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1629997 In both the local News Tribune, nor either Tacoma, WA tv stations of King 5 television nor KIRO channel 7 have this. Before some of you go off a tangent and call for someone's head, perhaps it'll behoove y'all to confirm the story? In both the local News Tribune, nor either Tacoma, WA tv stations of King 5 television nor KIRO channel 7 have this. Before some of you go off a tangent and call for someone’s head, perhaps it’ll behoove y’all to confirm the story?

]]> By: TooManyPuppies http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/02/07/soldier-accused-of-waterboard-er-disciplining-his-4-year-old-daughter/comment-page-1/#comment-1629993 TooManyPuppies Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:50:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=68745#comment-1629993 @#10 Yep! @#10 Yep!

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