State Rep. Sue Tibbs was one of the sponsors of a bill that makes it unlawful for “any person to willfully fortify an access point into any dwelling, structure, building or other place where a felony offense prohibited by the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Act is being committed, or attempted, and the fortification is for the purpose of preventing or delaying entry or access by a law enforcement officer, or to harm or injure a law enforcement officer in the performance of official duties.”
The law states that to “fortify an access point” means to willfully construct, install, position, use or hold any material or device designed to injure a person upon entry or to strengthen, defend, restrict or obstruct any door, window or other opening into a dwelling, structure, building or other place to any extent beyond the security provided by a commercial alarm system, lock or deadbolt, or a combination of alarm, lock or deadbolt.
The law carries punishment of imprisonment of not more than five years or by a fine up to $10,000 or by both.
This law is too ambiguous. If the dwelling is already being used for illegal activites, then what exactly is the point? This smells fishy.
It certainly appears right now to be a tack-on law. But laws on the books never seem to go away. And laws on the books get reinterpreted as the years go by. And laws on the books also get expanded.
At this time it is for “place where a felony offense prohibited by the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Act is being committed, or attempted..”.
It can easily be expanded in the future to include all sorts of crime behind closed doors. Why not gambling, prostitution, etc where a little extra time will prevent someone being caught “in the act.”
If the punishment for the actual crime being committed needs to be increased, then increase it. Adding additional things to be throw in, which by themselves are not crimes, because the police don’t like the fact that people who commit crimes don’t want to make it easy to be caught is B.S.
#16 I like the way you think
#5 coyote fair enough, similar question:
You fortify your house and the police get a tap on your internet connection after seeing your email address used in a craislist ad looking for a date that is “420 friendly”.
My point is that its really hard to draw a line. If they want to get you, they will find a way.
For everyone saying this is just a tack on law needs to reread it.
“any person to willfully fortify an access point into any dwelling, structure, building or other place where a felony offense prohibited by the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Act is being committed”
Doesn’t say you have to be doing or know about the felony offense just that it is taking place there. The way I read it, if you a contractor and fortify as part of your job , you’re in trouble. It Doesn’t say someone have to be convict of the drug offense just that it took place there. Hell it doesn’t even say when the fortification have to take place.
What if I fortify my house and sell it. Then someone after I sell it does a felony offense prohibited by the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Act there. Am I in trouble?
Hell this is worst then Hate Crime laws.
I’m with #22 Bad laws
Just increase the original offense.
Folks in ‘homa still worried that the Red Coats are coming?
What if your house is a converted missile silo? With bomb blast doors and the rest, does the house itself constitute a violation by just being?
WOW,
no one read my post about Insurance..COOL.. #11.
GET THE IDEA.
Its to drop insurance charges for COPS. If they are hurt during a drug bust, they NOW have to deal with the STATE paying it, INSTED of insurance.
reading the OTHER parts, makes it illegal for almost ANY REASON, if illegal activity is happening. WHICH means that if a cop busts into a HOME to arrest someone, and gets HURT, the STATE pays, not INSURANCE.
So much for having my civil war era cannon set up in front of the door, rigged to go off if a sensor detects the door is forcibly opened.
Although, I have the right to use a gun to defend my home and I have noting to do with drugs, so I should be fine.
Bigotry at its best.
Heh,
Just like seat belt laws, oh no we’ll never use it to pull someone over…. How’d honest was that?
So now if you have your house secured they legally have an excuse to break in and look around.
#31–Breetai==in good form today. At least on this post you are being rational enough to be able to spot just how wrong you are.
1. Just like seat belt laws, oh no we’ll never use it to pull someone over…. How’d honest was that? /// Honest enough. Some state laws expressly state “not wearing seatbelt” can only be ticketed in conjunction with some other offense. In any case, driving without a seat belt is an economic and even (more rarely a safety hazard) for all tax payers. Quite appropriate to be ticketed for such stupidity. If you ((yes YOU)) are not intelligent enough to take care of yourself, the police are left to do it.
2. “So now if you have your house secured they legally have an excuse to break in and look around.” /// Made up, fantasy, fear based, BS concern. As stated, the offense is an “add on” and comes AFTER a search warrant is served, drugs on premises, and THEN oh yeah, the house was fortified.
I’ll look forward to your continuing excellence on this blog.
Mine is fortified with vitamins and minerals.
#32 Bobbo
I take it you’ve never been pulled over and ticketed for not wearing your seat belt. Happened to me once in college and once since. So take your lying government worship and shove it up your ass.
Breetai, would you put seat belts on your children? (guessing you don’t have any)
I don’t think the people who passed this law had any hidden agenda. I think they are the kind of people that would pass a law to move January to the middle of the summer in order to reduce the cost of air conditioning.
She’s a republican of course, and Oklahoma for the first time has a GOP dominated Legislature, so look forward to years worth of bad legislation to come. I can’t wait for the constitutional amendments concerning prayer.
Oklahomam is a tiny little Iran.
#37
Little Iran? Whatever man. Play the all-Republicans-are-evil game while the politicans take your freedoms away.
Anyway, Sue Tibbs can go Fck herself. I have all of the sudafed I need for my colds until I have to go to the drugstore and submit my license for state approval. Thanks dopers and demagogues!
The wolf banged on the door pretty hard on 911. Naturally you want to harden the door. Personally, I’d shut the doors at AIG. They had mediocre security and now mediocrity is being rewarded and excellence is punished. Lower your home security. Install cardboard doors and wait for a bonus package in a wood box. Dead logic.
I live in Okla and I’ve never even heard this till just now, seeing it on Dvorak.
My guess though is that it’s in response to the meth dealers who booby trap entrances of their labs