Comments on: Man Given 8 Years for Vehicular Homicide in 2007 May be Freed Using Toyota Defense

By: ScottLC

ScottLC — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:24:08 +0000

No car’s acceleration can override it’s braking? You really believe that or you just pulled it out of thin air? I have at least two cars in the driveway right now whose brakes can’t hold them, one being a 70′s Eldo (front drive) and the other being a Jag(both 4 whl disc). From a standing start acceleration is minimal but at speed if the throttle were open I have no doubt stopping would be almost impossible.

But most of the point here, at least with the new Toyo-crap: The brakes are electronically controlled as well as the throttle. The only brakes the driver even has in this situation is the cable controlled rear parking brake. This is insufficient stopping power for any car because the rear brakes do only a fraction of the energy reduction under any circumstances and even if they can stop the rear wheels there is little weight there. You’ll simply drag the tires.

Whether this guy is guilty or not I have no idea, but it’s immaterial to the Toyota issue. They have a real problem and it’s going to cost them more than they may be able to pay.

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By: noname

noname — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:49:23 +0000

# 23 admash,

Right on, if Lee is guilty they can’t sue Toyota. It’s all about the money and power.

Before the relatives felt empowered to watch an innocent man imprisoned. Now they fell impoverished because they can’t sue Toyota.

By: admash

admash — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:51:28 +0000

I thought this was the interesting part:

“Relatives of the victims — who condemned Lee at his sentencing three years ago — now believe he is innocent and are planning to sue Toyota.”

Wow, I guess the discovery of a more lucrative law suit changes one’s perspective?

By: noname

noname — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:07:17 +0000

# 15 bdgbill,

Your the only smart one in this group of idiots.

By: Greg Allen

Greg Allen — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:44:57 +0000

>> chuck said, on February 25th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
>> I guess “doing everything he could” didn’t include putting the car into neutral or park.

According to testimony of surviving victims, that doesn’t work. I have to admit this seems improbable from the cars I’ve owned but I also really don’t know how these high tech computer controlled cars work anymore.

One of the dead victims was a California Highway Patrol officer who, I have no doubt, would keep his head in a situation like that.

By: Greg Allen

Greg Allen — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:37:22 +0000

Isn’t it suicidal to ram your Toyota into an Oldsmobile at high speed?

Anyway, the Toyota acceleration problems give this conviction reasonable doubt.

By: Hmeyers

Hmeyers — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:14:41 +0000

Even if Toyota’s brand diminishes, I won’t buy a General Motors or Ford piece of shit.

I’d buy a Honda!

I would have said I wouldn’t buy an “American brand”, but all the “Japanese” cars are made in a factory in the USA these days.

By: chuck

chuck — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:43:41 +0000

I guess “doing everything he could” didn’t include putting the car into neutral or park.

By: Bah Humbug

Bah Humbug — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:40:35 +0000

“I know 100 percent in my heart that I took my foot off the gas and that I was stepping on the brakes as hard as possible,”> To me just that proves he is lying or he dreamed he did just before he woke up and plowed into that car.

By: The0ne

The0ne — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:32:56 +0000

#4
My fear is on the other end. You have green loving fanatics in their hybrids zooming at over 100mph while looking at their navs. Imagine less weight, weaker materials, much much weaker performance in almost every category and couple that with a green loving amateur driver.

Thank aliens that I have a sense of humor to stop and laugh at these green loving idiots before driving off and leaving them in their green “peace.”

Here in San Diego, I drive from Mission Valley to Carlsband. There’s not a single day that I don’t see more than 5 Prius drivers at that speed.

By: bdgbill

bdgbill — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:52:57 +0000

There is no production car in the world who’s engine can overpower it’s brakes, period.

If you jump in a Ferrari and mash the accelerator while pressing the brakes, the car will go nowhere. If you are driving any car at 100 mph and mash both pedals to the floor, the car will stop. It may take a few extra meters to stop but it will stop.

This whole thing happened years ago with Audi and nearly destroyed the company. It turned out that almost every driver that experienced the problem was short, female and/or elderly.

Sudden acceleration is half the problem at best. the other half is people freaking out and panicking because their car did something unexpected.

By: spsffan

spsffan — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:36:52 +0000

“driving his child and pregnant wife home from church when the accident happened”

Well, there’s 2 strikes against him right there. First, he’s overpopulating the planet*, second, he believes in imaginary divine beings up in the sky controlling everything!

*Yeah, I know. He killed 3 so he’s technically nets a -1.

By: Killer Duck

Killer Duck — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:29:09 +0000

#4 is dead on. Basically we will eventually not be able to produce anything new. Liability will outweigh profitability. We’ll regulate ourselves out of being competitive in the world market.

By: Jägermeister

Jägermeister — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:02:51 +0000

We had this happen with a Toyota Tercel. We crossed an intersection before managed to stop the car. I doubt it had electronics to control the breaks, but it sure as hell didn’t work that time. We never experienced this problem again, but it was in our minds every time we drove that car.