Steve Palmer reminds us of this quote:
“This is legislation that puts our own Justice Department above the law. When National Security Letters are issued, they allow federal agents to conduct any search on any American, no matter how extensive or wide-ranging, without ever going before a judge to prove that the search is necessary.”
What we should learn from this story is that there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans: their major goal is and has always been obtaining power and control over others.
#19 Not quiet. Just time consuming to keep up with Republican rhetoric! The Democrats are busy solving problems and not enough time to defuse the BS fed to the sheep.
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Rhetoric: “Sen. Obama Promised to Support Repealing PATRIOT Act, Then Voted to Extend It”
Reality: Obama Has Consistently Said He Would Support A Patriot Act That Would Strengthen Civil Liberties Without Sacrificing The Tools That Law Enforcement Needs To Keep Us Safe
Obama Said That the Senate Compromise on the PATRIOT Act Was “Far From Perfect” But Modestly Improved the Original Law By Strengthening Civil Liberties Without Sacrificing the Tools That Law Enforcement Needs to Keep Us Safe.
Tools That Law Enforcement Needs to Keep Us
SafeUnder Control.There, I fixed it for you Dallas.
#21 – Dallas
What part of the extension contains the “strengthening of civil liberties” in your Reality?
You need to think more about the following quote as it pertains not just to the Patriot Act but in all aspects of politics…
“What we should learn from this story is that there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans: their major goal is and has always been obtaining power and control over others.”
What what your favorite politicians does – not just says.
EvilPoliticians, forget Dallas.
He’s nuts. He thinks Obama craps chocolate mousse. You would think so the way he eats it up.
You made me go WoW with #19. You’re right. So where is the outrage? I’m still waiting to “take it to the bank”.
What’s even worse about Obama is that he has had plenty of time to think and review what he does. He has had YEARS to review what Bush did. He told us what he would do – and then flip flopped. It’s like he never REALLY intended to keep any of his promises at all!
Bush on the other hand, made this stuff up as he went along.
So who is worse, the guy who made it up as he went along, or the guy who has history on his side and still went along with it?
My guess is, that when he got elected and went through the transition period, he either learned something he didn’t want to hear, or the previous administration threatened him in some way if he didn’t maintain some kind of status quo.
Go watch the flick “Three Days of the Condor” paying particular attention to the part where Redford finally figures things out when he confronts some bozo in his home towards the end. Might there have been something planned for years and Obama’s interference would’ve undone years of work?
Jus’ sayin’ …
John:
Now you are sounding like Glenn Beck. He maintains that the real issue is totalitarian-republic-anarchy and that fascism and communism are merely different sides of the coin of totalitarian. You ought to watch his shows before you so frequently criticize him. You would be surprised.
Bob in Wintr Haven, FL
# 17 KarmaBaby said, “Unless, of course, I get to be the dictator.”
So, you think like George Bush! Interesting…
http://tiny.cc/lLhMg
#27, Beck is certifiably insane.
Imagine, if you will, a time when Obama might have repealed significant portions of the Patriot Act. How would the Republicans and their noisemakers have responded?
Far easier to take the heat he’s getting here than put up with that ‘soft on terror’ crap for three more years.
Just sayin.
#25
All i provided was what you were looking for – the official response. Were you satisfied with the headline? Sometimes you have to read past the big letters!
#26. I have to agree with you. And that makes the prez a puppet. Which means.. he is controlled (or even chosen) by higher forces. Is that really so hard to believe? Think people!!
This is not new, politicians have been controlled forever. If you think Obama is “the most powerful man in the world” you are truly a fucking moron.
I feel sorry for people like Dallas. But my sympathy has limits.
SURPRISE!
-people have become so gullible.
-s
>> Hmeyers said, on March 2nd, 2010 at 1:49 pm
>> I’ve noticed very little “change” that matters, but the rhetoric is better.
I’m happy we have a president who understands that tax cuts for the rich aren’t the only solution for a crashed economy.
If we had elected McCain, that’s was the only solution we ever would have gotten, just like with Bush.
And even TRYING to fix healthcare for average Americans? It never would have even occurred to him, just like with Bush.
Stopping torture? McCain grooved in it, just like Bush. More torture! Not and end to it.
Getting Muslim countries to help us fight Al Qaeda? With McCain, forget about it… just like Bush, he would have alienated all our allies and our potential allies.
Equal pay for women? Absolutely not friggin way with McCain, just like with Bush.
A raise in the minimum wage for workers who desperately need it? McCain as well as Bush would NEVER have allowed this.. it might mean a 0.0001% ding in the income of their rich benefactors!
Credit for small businesses? Unless they are gigantic corporations, neither Mccain nor Bush would give two craps about those guys.
A jobs bill for average Americans? The idea never would have even OCCURRED to McCain or Bush. Jobs are for socialists!
McCain or Bush doing a credit card bill to protect average Americans? Both of them would have laughed at even the idea.
How about the tax cuts for middle class people we got under Obama?
McCain, Bush and their uber-rich buddies would have gotten a good laugh about that over their cuban cigars and $500 a bottle brandy.
Pay as you go? Absolutely no friggin’ way Bush or McCain would EVER have rejected borrow-and-spend conservatism. Neither of those guys ever paid for a single thing in their lives.
And the list goes on and on.
If you never noticed any of these differences, you had your head in the mud.
#26 which higher forces? Aliens? Zeus?
[Ha ha, you're so cute you get a pat on the head... - ed.]
Here’s the difference.
When Bush and the GOP do MAJOR flip flops — and they’ve done some doozies — the Republicans don’t even notice. Hell, they defend the hell out of it, every time.
The whole conservative movement are a bunch of shameless cynical flip floppers.
It’s hilarious hearing them carp and whine about the health care bill being “rammed through” when none of them made a peep when the Patriot Act was rushed through without a debate or even a cursory reading.
As for me, I criticize Obama for signing this piece of crap the GOP foisted on America when they collectively crapped on the constitution after 911.
I love the liberal defense…
“Well Bush did it too!”
So what you are saying is that the Democrats are just as fucked up as the Republicans. Honestly, do read the tripe you type? How much of a two party whore can you possibly be when you fight one side ruthlessly, and defend it when your party does the exact same thing? If it’s wrong when your enemy does it, it’s just as wrong when you do it! Grow a pair and defend your COUNTRY, not your damn party for once!
@33 Greg Allen
I would never in a million years want McCain as President. The guy is absolutely incompetent.
“I’m happy we have a president who understands that tax cuts for the rich aren’t the only solution for a crashed economy.”
+1 Obama. I do like that. At the same time, that massive stimulus package was like firing a blank and spending $1.5 trillion to do it.
#14 Pathetic sheeple attempting to hide the sun with a finger. Don’t you have a floor to wash?
#21 Keep your pathetic apologetic cavalcade. It show how much self respect you lack.
#28 And like Obama.
#30 Sorry, but all you did was to show what a sad sheeple you are.
#33 Nice post showing that everything is the same had McCain. I agree with you, no change whatsoever.
What are you wingnuts bitching about? You voted for McCain, who would have done what Obama did, and probable worse.
It’s us liberals who have the right to bitch. We thought he’d be different from the fascist statists you wingnuts love. Our bad.
#33 is smoking some good stuff
he’s in his own alternate reality, a bizarro world that is the exact opposite of this real world