Animby says:

#40 – Thank you, Bobbo, for referring to my very well informed opinions as ignorant. As far as I know, I am the only person posting regularly here who has practiced medicine and under a variety of social and payment systems around the world.

You state my emergency room care comment shows the weakness of the system (and my argument). Well, nonsense. While all are “created equal” that doesn’t mean that all are entitled to equal medical care. Even in socialized countries, people with the ability to pay can (and do) receive better medical care. As I tried to state, it distresses me to see people going into deep debt due to healthcare costs. And this is what I think the govt should be working on. A safety net for the under/non-insured. And if that means going to a public hospital (instead of the public option) for your heart attack and then paying it off in installments, then so be it. So you go to a public hospital and you don’t get a private room or flowers on the bedstand. You still get quality care and you don’t go bankrupt.

#29 – jmrouse: I don’t believe I said anything at all about all medical care should be delivered at tertiary medical facilities. Please don’t put words in my mouth and then tell me I’m ignorant for saying them.

Animby says:

#42 – You’re right. I said it. It’s true. I did not say the situation was ideal. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the concept of an example. 2+2=4 is simple arithmetic. It is also an example of mathematics. If I’m trying to show a simple arithmetic solution, it is not necessary for me to explain geometry. If you’d like to buy me a few beers, I’ll enlighten you on my theory of health care reform all the way up to calculus. Please feel free to reply to this in any way you care. Personally, I think the thread is getting old. I’m sure I’ll see you in another thread trying to overthrow a system that is working and replacing it with one that will cost two or three times as much to do less. Wait. You’re not a banker, are you?

Jmrouse says:

#43 You are avoiding my point. Will a hospital visit by an uninsured person provide long term treatment and consultations for that person if they have diabetes? How about rehabilitation treatment for someone who becomes partially paralyzed from waist down? Loose a hand and need a prosthetic? Not gonna get much help there from your uninsured visit are you?

You said, “One thing you need to remember is that NO ONE in the US is without health care. Show up at the emergency room and you WILL be cared for.”

You apparently define “health care” in a far more limited fashion then anyone with a medical background should.