Comments on: Excessive Corporate Pay — A Way to Stop It? http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:24:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: I'm Abe Lincoln And I Been A Thinkin' http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1640730 I'm Abe Lincoln And I Been A Thinkin' Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:40:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1640730 #23 - BULLSHIT!!!!! NOTHING is worth censorship. Go down that road and you're on the fabled slippery slope. Besides, racial slurs are the foundation of many hilarious jokes. #23 – BULLSHIT!!!!! NOTHING is worth censorship. Go down that road and you’re on the fabled slippery slope.

Besides, racial slurs are the foundation of many hilarious jokes.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1640110 ECA Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:28:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1640110 In the long run, BUSINESS has had the gov lower Taxes, and to GET THEM BACK they have had to transfer the NEED of Gov Money to the consumer. we are being PICKED CLEAN from both ends. Profit margins go UP PROFITS go up.. WAGES on the top WENT UP ALL went up 100 times What suffered was we LOST jobs.. WE lost HIGHER WAGES.. Lower wages havent Doubled in 20 years. MIN wage should be AT LEAST $12 per hour. Those lost Taxes from corps and rich, are in property taxes, taxes on our wages, tax on everything we buy. In WWII, taxes were raised for a reason..TO PAY FOR THE WAR..and it was on the RICH and corps, NOT on the poor. It could only last so long. In the long run,
BUSINESS has had the gov lower Taxes, and to GET THEM BACK they have had to transfer the NEED of Gov Money to the consumer.
we are being PICKED CLEAN from both ends.
Profit margins go UP
PROFITS go up..
WAGES on the top WENT UP
ALL went up 100 times

What suffered was we LOST jobs..
WE lost HIGHER WAGES..
Lower wages havent Doubled in 20 years. MIN wage should be AT LEAST $12 per hour.
Those lost Taxes from corps and rich, are in property taxes, taxes on our wages, tax on everything we buy.

In WWII, taxes were raised for a reason..TO PAY FOR THE WAR..and it was on the RICH and corps, NOT on the poor.

It could only last so long.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1640108 ECA Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:18:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1640108 fOR THOSE THAT THINK corps are the greatest.. You have to understand 1 main thing.. MOST of the corps are owned by a FEW persons. They are diversification. Dividing up for a few reasons.. 1, you have more then 1 company doing the same thing, so that you can show its NOT a monopoly. 2, you get more money from having more then 1 corp, as consumer looks and see's 2-3-4 and a few differences, AND still picks one. 3. OWNERS dont run the company. another trick comes with owning Multiple layers of companies.. 1. sells high priced goods at HIGH prices..Then sells to the NEXT 2. Buys those goods not sold in '1, and sells at a middle price, then sells to the next.. 3. Does the sames as 2, with goods FROM 2, at a lower price.. 4..DITTO. I will show you 1 thing. the POOR dont wear much Cotton and wools, any more. WE WEAR PLASTIC. Why? ITS CHEAP. The FUEL corps will also tell you, why they use petro products..ITS CHEAP. Standard Product market NOW?? "ITS PRETTY I WANT IT", it dont matter the product, as 90% of the market couldnt tell you What it is/was/or will do AFTEr you buy it. Educate the consumer?? DONT BET ON IT. most couldnt tell you a RIPE fruit. fOR THOSE THAT THINK corps are the greatest..

You have to understand 1 main thing..
MOST of the corps are owned by a FEW persons.
They are diversification. Dividing up for a few reasons..
1, you have more then 1 company doing the same thing, so that you can show its NOT a monopoly.
2, you get more money from having more then 1 corp, as consumer looks and see’s 2-3-4 and a few differences, AND still picks one.
3. OWNERS dont run the company.

another trick comes with owning Multiple layers of companies..
1. sells high priced goods at HIGH prices..Then sells to the NEXT
2. Buys those goods not sold in ’1, and sells at a middle price, then sells to the next..
3. Does the sames as 2, with goods FROM 2, at a lower price..
4..DITTO.

I will show you 1 thing.
the POOR dont wear much Cotton and wools, any more. WE WEAR PLASTIC. Why? ITS CHEAP.
The FUEL corps will also tell you, why they use petro products..ITS CHEAP.
Standard Product market NOW?? “ITS PRETTY I WANT IT”, it dont matter the product, as 90% of the market couldnt tell you What it is/was/or will do AFTEr you buy it.

Educate the consumer?? DONT BET ON IT. most couldnt tell you a RIPE fruit.

]]> By: JimD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1640071 JimD Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:54:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1640071 Got to RESTORE THE PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX !!! Elvin paid 91% in the "Glorius 50's", so should these CORPORATE SCUMBAGS !!! Got to RESTORE THE PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX !!! Elvin paid 91% in the “Glorius 50′s”, so should these CORPORATE SCUMBAGS !!!

]]> By: Uncle Patso http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1639852 Uncle Patso Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:18:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639852 So far I'd say the executives are winning against the shareholders and so-called "market forces." Big time. And they're not about to cut their own pay. So far I’d say the executives are winning against the shareholders and so-called “market forces.” Big time. And they’re not about to cut their own pay.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1639787 ECA Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:27:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639787 lets do some figuring.. How many years could you survive on 1 years pay from ANY of these folks? 10? 20? SCREW IT, and retire at 18?? Life off the interest for 40 years?? lets do some figuring..

How many years could you survive on 1 years pay from ANY of these folks?
10?
20?
SCREW IT, and retire at 18??
Life off the interest for 40 years??

]]> By: Canucklehead http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1639746 Canucklehead Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:39:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639746 two crazy things about these pay packets: (1) when one of them is fired or quits, they are so easily replaced. Anyone making their kind of dough should be easily replaced. (2) some of them are such geniouses they can take a 100 year old company and destroy in less than a year. two crazy things about these pay packets:

(1) when one of them is fired or quits, they are so easily replaced. Anyone making their kind of dough should be easily replaced.

(2) some of them are such geniouses they can take a 100 year old company and destroy in less than a year.

]]> By: bobbo, we are all marked by the beast http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1639728 bobbo, we are all marked by the beast Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:25:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639728 Hah, hah. I was going to complain that editorial decisions were being overly influenced by racists teenagers posing as contributors, but I see the guy in the new caption also has a big nose. You know why Bankers have big noses? Because the air is free! Skin head a few doors down told me that one. He should outgrow this phase in a few years. Hah, hah. I was going to complain that editorial decisions were being overly influenced by racists teenagers posing as contributors, but I see the guy in the new caption also has a big nose.

You know why Bankers have big noses? Because the air is free! Skin head a few doors down told me that one. He should outgrow this phase in a few years.

]]> By: bobbo, we are all marked by the beast http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1639727 bobbo, we are all marked by the beast Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:22:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639727 Not too late to post that exec pay should BY LAW be a multiple of the average labor force pay. That way, the exec is motivated to raise wages, its easy to control, it can be set by the stockholders, and its "fair" from a big system viewpoint as opposed to being a product of self dealing and conspiracy as it is now. Just for arguments sake, I heard last night that 40 years ago the average CEO made 30 times the average employee and now it is 300 with the Japanese paying something like 90 times. Looks like 91 times would be a reasonable staring point for the most successful corps in America? Not too late to post that exec pay should BY LAW be a multiple of the average labor force pay. That way, the exec is motivated to raise wages, its easy to control, it can be set by the stockholders, and its “fair” from a big system viewpoint as opposed to being a product of self dealing and conspiracy as it is now.

Just for arguments sake, I heard last night that 40 years ago the average CEO made 30 times the average employee and now it is 300 with the Japanese paying something like 90 times. Looks like 91 times would be a reasonable staring point for the most successful corps in America?

]]> By: kevinlieb http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1639712 kevinlieb Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:34:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639712 Good move changing the picture. It was probably taken from somewhere where it was meant to be racially offensive, although I'm sure Uncle Dave wasn't using it here in that way on purpose. Good move changing the picture. It was probably taken from somewhere where it was meant to be racially offensive, although I’m sure Uncle Dave wasn’t using it here in that way on purpose.

]]> By: amodedoma http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1639697 amodedoma Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:47:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639697 #19 bogeyman Racial slurs are worthy of censorship. #19 bogeyman

Racial slurs are worthy of censorship.

]]> By: amodedoma http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1639696 amodedoma Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:43:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639696 #16 UD I thought it was odd coming from you. Yeah, the Kippah wasn't very clear in the drawing. I'd seen drawings like that before or I might not have noticed either. #16 UD

I thought it was odd coming from you. Yeah, the Kippah wasn’t very clear in the drawing. I’d seen drawings like that before or I might not have noticed either.

]]> By: bogeyman http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1639695 bogeyman Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:43:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639695 #20: When you can't refute the facts, resort to name calling. Game over; you lose. #20: When you can’t refute the facts, resort to name calling. Game over; you lose.

]]> By: Uncle Dave http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1639666 Uncle Dave Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:14:53 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639666 #19, So, if I label you a piece of shit you won't be offended because it's factually correct, yet politically incorrect? Good to know. #19, So, if I label you a piece of shit you won’t be offended because it’s factually correct, yet politically incorrect? Good to know.

]]> By: bogeyman http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/03/09/excessive-corporate-pay-a-way-to-stop-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1639660 bogeyman Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:59:16 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=70316#comment-1639660 #16 Uncle Dave: I see political correctness outweighs factual correctness yet again - not so "Uncensored" after all, eh? #16 Uncle Dave: I see political correctness outweighs factual correctness yet again – not so “Uncensored” after all, eh?

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