My brother stumbled on this disturbing item which caused a number of others to chime in that this apparently is not an unusual problem.

I did a clean install of Win7 about 3 1/2 weeks ago and have had no problems. 2 days ago I discovered that no system restore points were available. After spending many hours researching the issue, I’ve taken the following steps but none have helped:

1. Completely uninstalled AVG and installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
2. Tried turning off System Restore, rebooting, turning it back on.
3. Checked the SR schedule in Task Scheduler, all seems fine. It creates restore points just fine, it just won’t keep them on reboot.
4. Scanned computer thoroughly with three different anti-malware programs, no problems found.
5. Did a sfc /scannnow, no problems reported.

One guy contacted Microsoft with this rather bizarre answer and (not unexpected) request for money to research their problem:

Microsoft thought this might have something to do with my domain it but would not troubleshoot it for me without paying the fee, which I cannot afford.

Posted using a Mac




  1. bobbo, free speech is precious says:

    Sombebody–I’ve got 6.8 Terabytes. Mostly recorded TV thru the Firewire (CapVHS). another thing Win7/64 won’t do so I have an XP in my lan to do that then I transfer files around for editing and storage. Using Visual CD lets me examime my data base on Win XP as well. I like to stay away from MS as much as easily possible.

    I always make a manual restore point before installing any software. It has certainly helped me save a few system rebuilds==not in the past 3 years though as I also have multiple anti-virus softwares in place. Don’t know if I need all those layers and it may be a coincidence no more major corruptions have taken place. OS? AVG? Router AV? Scottie? Anti-Auto Scripting? Crap Cleaner? 4-5 more. Gives me something to do every Sunday.

  2. gquaglia says:

    Post 33-41, crap like this is why Windows in its present iteration is on the way out for consumers. More complex then it needs to be. The apps model will rule the home market, trust me.

  3. Somebody_Else says:

    #41
    I seriously doubt there is no solution for capturing video via firewire on Vista/7 considering how large the HTPC community is.

    I’m using a cablecard setup so I can’t really point you in the right direction there.

    As for data, with that much stuff and multiple computers/OS’s accessing data you really need a file server. There’s no good reason to use old wonky software to organize your stuff. I’m using a cheap Intel Atom-based system with a few 2TB hard drives and FreeNAS for the OS. It shows up as a shared folder on the network, works great.

    #42
    I don’t see how ancient 16-bit applications being incompatible with the modern x86-64 instruction set is a serious issue… All things considered its amazing how backwards compatible 64-bit Vista/7 are. Yes, you run into compatibility issues now and then, but that can happen with any major OS update.

    I don’t think the apps model is what people want, especially on the desktop. Look at how many people jailbreak their iPhones just so they can run unapproved software. An apps repository like what you get with package managers in Linux or Phone app stores is a nice feature for ease of use and updating, but Windows dominates the desktop because it’s so easy to create/install applications.

  4. srg86 says:

    #36

    Agreed, I’ve always turned off system restore immediately as I’ve found it noticeably slows windows down (and eats hard disk space at the same time).

    It’s actually untrue that 16-bit support was dropped in the compatibility mode of x86_64. 16-bit Protected Mode programs (Something written for Win3.1 for example) are supported in hardware, but not the OS. In contrast, 16-bit real mode programs aren’t supported.

  5. Glenn E. says:

    Oh yer all just a bunch of M$ haters. Now where did I hear that before?

    Problems with Win7 ? HA! Where is your MS god now? Just kidding. I’ve noticed that XP (which I use) creates a restore point every time a Windows security or application patch is installed. And likely every time anything else is installed, like Adobe Flash 10. But just in case it’s not. I always do a manual RP. Just to be sure I’ve got one or two recovery points to go back to, before whatever it is screwed things up.

    This works 99.9% of the time. But I still think there are some installs of MS wares, that override restore points. So one can’t undo them, so easily. Like Service Pack 3.

    As for Win7 erasing past RPs. This sounds like it might be DRM protection. Just a guess. But M$ might be trying to prevent “removal” of dated keys (or cookies), in the registry (or wherever they’re hidden). By using System Restore to delete them from the PC, and get more trail time of the ware or service. This might apply to some sort of media downloading service, that stores a key to limit the service time. Which is where DRM protection comes into play. M$ could be preventing multiple use of System Restore, to gain more service time. So you get to use SR once, and that’s all you get after it’s successful.

    If this is true, I’d say that sucks! Because the first RP tried, might not fix the problem. I’ve had occasions, when I had to go back more than one RP. I’d say one should be able to have at least six past usable RPs, before any of them get erased.

    But it’s also just possible that your System Restore is trying to restore too much. If everything is on the C drive, and the file indexing service is on. Then one RP could be massive. And it’s trying to restore every file held on that drive. Even large media files. If that’s the case, one RP could be using all your allocated drive space. I’d turn off the indexing service. And use a 2nd drive or partition, to hold long term media.

  6. don quixote says:

    If you set a restore point before installing software, it is easy to get rid of it if it doesn’t work out. Restore is good for that use.

    As there is nothing like it in the Machines where you can only use the software if the maker first sucked Jobs dick to get permission to use his machine (you didn’t think it was yours did you?)

    Reading this blog it is interesting how many big mouths have no idea what a computer is used for other than playing online. Terribyte drives to store porn video is where most seem to be here. While those who actually use a computer as a computer are shouted down by the bunch that would buy horse shit in a bag if Jobs put an Apple on the bag and called iShit.

  7. The0ne says:

    #46
    As I said earlier,

    “Always easy to blame the OS base solely on ignorance alone.”

    The good and bad thing about blogs is that anyone can voice their opinion(s), no matter how little they know about the subject of field of study. I try my very best to avoid becoming one of these types of aholes (bobbo for example). If I don’t know enough, I stfu…simple. If I do and I read more idiotic opinions rather than a fruitful discussion then do as Einstein would and ignore them.

  8. v-2ask says:

    Windows is cheap and affordable for everyone,
    Mac support and hardware both are expensive
    and linux Os is cheap but the support is far expensive then both Mac and Windows. So choose whatever you want. or wait for 128 Bit Windows OS

  9. Rich says:

    When I do really deep maintenance on my three systems, I also delete old restore points and their data. I don’t see the big deal.

  10. Have you tried doing it in the safe mode? Check which services are set to manual or disabled.

  11. cew says:

    haha…i typed M$ for Microsoft…haha…I posted from a mac



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