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@NobodySpecial I’ve heard it’s even harder to become a Canadian citizen.
#17. Land of the free? That’s an empty phrase these days. Let’s get some of that back, then maybe we can talk about the rest.
I like the fact that the clock and this blog are still free. So i can count down the days until i’m dead. If amexican would wake up and, something something bobbo
hmm.. that should get me outta commenting for a month or 2
Sorry about the long wait guys. Really. But, so many of you have immigrated to our country illegally that we cannot afford to let more legal immigrants in at the current rate of 1,000,000 a year. Please encourage your fellow Mexican citizens to follow the laws and rules. It is not fair to those from other countries who also wish to come here. We cannot “Profile” Mexicans with preference over peoples from other countries. Please STAY AWAY!
I think most level headed people are willing to make the legal immigration chain more efficient and more open. However many people like myself, have gotten fed up with the government not enforcing its laws in order to buy votes, or use slave labor. So after being screwed many times, we have dug our heels in.
I will not support any loosening of our immigration laws, or standards until something is done about the Mexican invasion. Once the government seals the border or at the very least stops 95% of the illegals crossing, then, and only then will I talk about changing the rules to make it easier for people to come to the country.
I really do believe that LEGAL immigrants are good for our country, but the key here is LEGAL.
I refuse to address the immigration issue until they finally begin enforcing conventions against piracy.
THE LAW IS THE LAW.
Also: people who abuse caps.
“You KNow”–the only time immigration of any kind is “valuable” is when you need more people. Two main situations for that: war, and a labor shortage. We have two wars, so we should allow anyone who wants to join our military to be citizens if they survive. Right now, I believe we allow illegal immigrants to enlist, let them serve, then kick them out of the country. True or not, its true enough given military service doesn’t give any extra points towards becoming legal.
Across the board, lib or con, can we agree that HONESTY is a valuable governing limitation? Which is exactly why both parities are so corrupt right now. Failing to enforce the laws, the primary function of government, is waived in our face every day. Unseen corruption more deeply rooted is more disguised, but suredly, on the continuation of the first, the second is present as well?
So, if you don’t have the stomach to VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE, maybe you can VOTE ANY POL WHO DOES NOT VOTE ENFORCEMENT OF LEGAL EMPLOYMENT OUT OF OFFICE.
The will of the people must be recognized. What this normally shows is that the people have no will. Ha, Ha.
Silly Hoomans.
OK,
you two,
You want law? then ask those MAKING them to live by them. QUIT changing what they dont like.
The laws are for the protection of the individual. Not Corps.
Only reason Emigration is a problem is that To many jobs have left the USA.
The only jobs left, IF you want them are at Burger kings and McD’s..
Unless you wish to PLAY in the corp (hide the peanut game) you have LITTLE OR NO choice.
The only way you are going to get business with the corps, is to CUT every corner you can, and give them a write off. its SOP.
NO LONGER is the company that can charge $100 per hour, and the persons on the bottom get $20, those in the middle get $20, Taxes get $30 and the TOP gets $30(and does nothing).
WE let this happen. Someone wanted an international Market place. but WE ARNT getting international Prices. only the Cheap wages.
# 3 – my grand parents did about the same thing. But did you look at the chart? Under current law neither of our grand parents would have been allowed into the country and never would have been allowed to become citizens and given how Italians were treated back then I am sure there were more than a few people who would have been ok with that.
All I’m saying is that Pedro deserves another chance to plea his case.
so in essence, this is saying “because it’s hard to become a citizen, we should just let them over run our borders”?
Tough shit, you want something good you have to work for it.
What this amusing chart doesn’t acknowledge is that those “fond of telling illegals to get in line” are also comprised of people who have been or still are in that line.
Like myself.
If illegals really want to immigrate to the US then get behind the rest of us, fill out the paperwork, live with the restrictions and wait your turn.
#21 Wrong! It’s way easier to become a Canadian citizen than it is to become an American.
#25 Logical position. Too bad the sheeples here will slam you for using logic. See? #30 just came here to show his “intelligence”
#31 Basically. Which is what sheeple #30 is endorsing.
“Right now, I believe we allow illegal immigrants to enlist, let them serve, then kick them out of the country. True or not, its true enough given military service doesn’t give any extra points towards becoming legal.”
By law, you must have begun the immigration process and possess a valid green card to enlist (doesn’t mean that illegals don’t slip through, but that is not the intent of the law).
Immigrants who serve since 9/11 are also afforded a fast-track towards citizenship. So yep, serving in our nations foreign military adventures is worth something I suppose.
#12
You legalize those immigrant (whether *gasp* amnesty or a guest worker), then those folks and companies start paying taxes.
Forgetting the fact that you are taking a steaming dump on the people that immigrated legally, in your plan what happens next? What do we do about the next batch of illegal immigrants? Do we also give them amnesty? Why even have a border if we are not going to enforce the immigration laws?
#17
I’m all for increasing immigration limits. I’m all for streamlining the immigration process. However, that is entirely orthogonal to the question of what to do about people that circumvent those limits or restrictions. If we are not going to enforce the current law and limits, then there is no point in having them at all.
#27
We have two wars, so we should allow anyone who wants to join our military to be citizens if they survive.
Completely agree. In fact, I bet a large number of the illegal immigrants would want that opportunity for training, meals, housing etc.
Right now, I believe we allow illegal immigrants to enlist, let them serve, then kick them out of the country.
I would not kick them out of the country. If you serve five to ten years in the military, I think you should be afforded the privilege of citizenship. In fact, I think you should be required to renounce your original country’s citizenship and become a US citizen in order to take this offer. One of the things the military could do is to train them to speak English which by itself would go a long way towards them getting a job once they got out.
#34
Interesting. Funny that the OP cartoon mentioned nothing about that particular avenue. I’m sure that was merely an oversight ;->.
#27 bobbo said, “Right now, I believe we allow illegal immigrants to enlist, let them serve, then kick them out of the country.”
Not true. Illegal immigrants are not allowed to enlist. My friend from boot camp, when I was in the Navy, earned citizenship for six years of military service. He was from Mexico and was not illegal. He was a skilled musician in the Navy band and knew magic.
“and knew magic.”
By magic, I mean like David Copperfield, not like Harry Potter.
Sea Lawyer, Benjamin, Thomas==I apologize. I was sleepy when writing about the status of immigrants serving in our military. I almost deleted it as too tired to look it up.
A mercenary army can be recruited by cash, or the lure of citizenship. In today’s market, seems to me that citizenship would be the easier route and from what Sea Lawyer posted, still not a lock on that.
I don’t understand what with the lawsuit against Arizona why Obama’s/Feds continuing, on-going/and promise to do nothing about it has not created more of a firestorm. In Obama’s case, not even words are expended to defend his inaction.
It really doesn’t make any sense. If WE THE PEOPLE, cannot even get our servants to perform this most basic of functions, then WE THE PEOPLE, must surely come to see our own irrelevancy, – - – - – - -unless – - – - – - –
WE VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE!!!!!!
Speaking of what “public servants” should be doing: this whole shitstorm over the Washington Post’s big investigation about the use of contractors for high level intel work is something I’m surprised hasn’t been discussed here yet.