Melbourne, August 3 : If you love dairy products, it’s time for you to rejoice – a new study claims that not only they are harmless, they may even cut down risk of cardiovascular-related death. The Australian study by Dr Jolieke van der Pols from the Queensland Institute of Medical Research (QIMR) said that certain fats in dairy might be protective for cardiovascular disease.
“We found that people with the highest intake of full-fat dairy had 70% less chance of death by heart disease or stroke than those who had the lowest intake of full-fat dairy,” van der Pols said.“It is possible that milk fat may contain nutrients that counteract the expected negative effects of the saturated fat in dairy products,” van der Pols added.
Will this sort of thing ever end?
no, because there is an infinite amount of possibilities.
when the right study comes along with the right group of individuals you will get a certain data set.
science is only the average mean of a wide variety of numbers, NOTHING is certain (100%).
im just waiting for the “smoking is good” study
I dont think that actually dairy product is good for out health.
#2 – How could you know?
Humans were supposedly a lactose intolerant group. Only semi-recently becoming a minority to those who can drink it.
Listening to CORP Jibber-jabber has gotten us??
SICK.
This is Aussie story, and I can SAY for them.
But if they LEARNED anything from the USA…you are in TROUBLE>>
Why can’t these arrogant and blinkered PhDs get their papers NON-peer reviewed by academics outside of their own clique?
Surely it would prevent most of the continual back-tracking and wasted effort on faulty hypotheses that we see so much of. For starters, how about giving the data to a real statistician rather than someone who’s just taken a stats module on their science course. They might be able to tell us whether there was actually a causal link.
It’s not just medicine that has this problem – I’m sure the current climate-science fiasco could have been avoided if they had some statisticians on board. Not only does statistical work appear to refute the catastrophic CO2 warming hypothesis, it suggests solar variation as being the real driver behind our changing climate.
Nothing will come of this. There is too much invested in low and non-fat milk. Too much money. Too much time.
I think the key phrase is: than those who had the lowest intake of full-fat dairy
Reminds me of the study that showed drinking alcohol reduces heart disease. The problem is if you look at the outlying group of the population who don’t consume any alcohol at all it includes most people who control their diet because of existing heart conditions or have other risk factors. It’s probably the same with saturated fats.
Will this sort of thing ever end? Probably not so long as human beings engage in the practice of conducting science. That’s a good thing.
I haven’t seen the study this article is based on, and there is no way to know how well it holds up (or doesn’t hold up) to the scrutiny of peer review…at least until it’s peer reviewed. Regardless, I think we should all be glad that people conducting actual science continue to question things that are “known” and sometimes get a result that shows us that what is “known” isn’t known at all. That’s progress.
A study is a study is a study.
Maybe this was made to justify a Grant or to publish some scientific papers. Either way, the marketing (yes even in science there’s marketing) cogs say that is better to release a polemic conclusion than to publish corroborating conclusions. That’s why they seek these “angles”. To take their work out of oblivion.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here. Saturated fats have always been good and just because some bad SCIENCE got it wrong 40 years ago (e.g. Ancel Keyes) makes this looks like news.
A book for the NoAgenda book club: Trick and Treat: how ‘healthy eating’ is making us ill by Barry Groves.
“Will this sort of thing ever end?”
Scientific enquiry – or whining about being prodded into thinking, evaluating the world around you and the way you live?
Maybe even taking responsibility for what you do as part of the body politic?
I’ll take the first choice, any day.
What about Mother Milk? The delivery system is much more attractive.
No it won’t end until YOU stop doing this. This “fake stories” like you just presented here are the problem. Scientists come out with complicated research covering one very specific point, and lazy journalists cover it for their ‘science section’ and skim a headline, exaggerate a claim and make silly conclusions. It’s rarely the science or scientists that are making these claims, its you lazy journalists.
Example. Some paper is presented that says there is a chemical, also found in red wine, that is beneficial for heart health. Now the ACTUAL paper probably discusses dosages, blood levels, etc. But the lazy journalist just reads that and reports “SCIENTISTS SAY RED WINE GOOD FOR YOUR HEART!” Now this is repeated like a game of Telephone and gets silly as it goes. No, the scientists NEVER said, EVER, that drinking red wine was good for your heart. They said there was a CHEMICAL that was found IN red wine that at certain levels and concentrations was helpful to the heart. But actually drinking enough wine to get this concentration would destroy your liver. Never the less, when the scientists finally get through to the lazy media and get this point made, the lazy media turns around (like this) and reports “SCIENCE CHANGES ITS MIND ON RED WINE AND HEART HEALTH”. No it didn’t, you were just too stupid to read the details and understand the original paper. You’re listening to headline crazy lazy journalists, not reading the actual scientific papers.
I’m actually a big fan of milk meant for baby calves.
@ # 13 Glass Half Full,
Right on, Brother !!
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It sounds like the toy we enjoy playing with is at fault. The very “intellect” we love to parse with is at fault. Science rarely comes out with something that can’t be refuted using that same “intellect”. Perhaps discoveries in theoretical physics can’t be contradicted but just added to.
My personal experience is that I like milk and ice cream but know they are not good for prostate health.
#13 Glass Half Full,
It sounds like you are trying to shoot the messenger. In this case the news story is just reporting what was ‘found’ in the study – here.
If you read the abstract you will see they found no association between dairy fat intake and heart disease apart from when they compared the very upper and lower outlying groups within a small sample size. To put it simply – both groups are going to contain alot of freaks who are going to have other factors determining their health.
They could have discounted the freaks, but oh no, they need more funding so in conclusion they say: “A possible beneficial association between intake of full-fat dairy and cardiovascular mortality needs further assessment and confirmation.
Sorry, this is bad science and we are all paying dearly for it.
This morning for breakfast I had a stick of butter with whipped cream, a cup of salt and non-maple syrup made with HFCS.
Plus bacon.
And egg yellows.
Mmmmm…egg yellows!
No, “science” today is just based on surveys. Some cherrypicking statistical analysis and plain crystal ball gazing. Not real science. Funds meant for scientific research is better spent this way rather than on real cause-and-effect scientific research. Any real useful scientific research in the public domain is usually hijacked by Big Pharma. AIDS research was for several years funded by taxpayers and public donation. Big Pharma hijacked the research findings, put a label, and prevented patients from benefiting from public-funded research.