A judge has denied a request for President Barack Obama to testify at a court martial for a U.S. Army flight surgeon who refused to deploy to Afghanistan until he saw proof that Obama was born in the United States.
The judge, Army Col. Denise Lind, said any evidence or witnesses related to Obama’s citizenship is irrelevant to the charges against Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who has 17 years of service in the U.S. military…
In addition to putting Obama on their witness list, Lakin’s lawyers had asked Lind to order Obama’s official birth records from Hawaii be brought to court for trial…
The judge ruled that the matter of Obama’s eligibility is not relevant because he did not give any orders in the case. She pointed out that while the president is commander-in-chief of the military, it is Congress that is constitutionally empowered to raise armies, pay them and equip them…
Lind also said that military law says that a soldier’s personal beliefs or convictions are not sufficient to allow that soldier to determine that an order is illegal. The soldier has to have “no rational doubt” that the order is illegal before he or she can ignore it.
Finally she ruled that a military court martial is not the forum in which to determine a president’s eligibility, because the Constitution says only Congress has the power to impeach and remove the president.
Another sect where ideology overwhelms material reality.
Birthers are retards. So are 9/11 truthers. Hi, Adam!
Birthers appear to be the only rational folks in this divide…they seem to be the only ones wondering why President O works so hard to keep information proving his nationality, secret.
As I said, I think the evidence leans towards his being a citizen.
I just wonder if he is human, the mannerisms, the way teleprompter and subject work so seamlessly together…just seem alien.
We really do need body language expert Tonya Reiman to analyze this
If this is racist…its for the human race…ArianeB wrong.
IN other words, what is described as Obama cool, might be alien inability to mimic correctly human response.
So maybe his birth certificate doesn’t list his religion, maybe it lists someone else as his father?
Of perhaps Obama was just trying to distract people with a fake story, like Bush with the cocaine or National Guard?
Re: “So maybe his birth certificate doesn’t list his religion, maybe it lists someone else as his father?”
Obama has already shown his birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth, which is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, used every year by thousands of people.
Maybe you are referring to the original birth certificate, which has not been sent out by Hawaii since 2001, even to people born before 2001. That document does not have a place to list religion. And, since the Certification was created when a clerk looked into the file, read the original document and entered the facts onto a form, the Certification must say the same thing as the original about the father. It was Obama senior.
Re: “they seem to be the only ones wondering why President O works so hard to keep information proving his nationality, secret.”
Answer. He hasn’t. He was the first and only US president to post his birth certificate. The facts on the birth certificate were confirmed repeatedly by the officials in Hawaii, most recently by the republican governor of Hawaii. There was never a lawsuit against Obama for his birth certificate or for documents. Virtually all the lawsuits were to stop the election, stop the Electoral College, stop the Inauguration. In our country you have to defend against every lawsuit, no matter how stupid.
On a sidenote to show what kind of people are leading these idiots:
http://amplifyyourvoice.org/u/AFY_EmilyB/2010/9/4/Tea-Party-president-jokes-about-murdering-GLBTQ-people
Anyone who talks about a person’s identity instead of their actiohns is an idiot, anyway. The birthers push this crap against the President (which would have NEVER flown during Bush the lesser’s administration) and the GOP not-so-subtly supports it because any real debate would have to include a discussion of the President’s policies. That would have to involve those fact thingies that the Right can’t handle very well. Hence, this disingenuous bullsh*t attacking the person instead of their actions.
This is ridiculous. US military officers can resign, any time they choose. And probably still manage to get some portion of a pension. Just as Oliver North was allowed to, in spite of his conviction. I knew a 2nd Lt. in the Air Force, a “90 day wonder” as they called them. Who resigned a few years after being assigned as our squadron Safety Office. Because he told us how “tied” his hands were at accomplishing anything meaningful. Just a dead end position and career. So he quit. I had to stick it out for two more years, no choice! I always thought it was weird how they services spend more money training officers, who are allowed to resign at any time. But the enlisted grunts are stuck with serving their four or six year contracts. That’s because the enlisted do all the actual work. And most of the dying too. So the services can’t afford to allow them to quit. Every new war, they’d flee in droves. I doubt that they’ve made service mandatory for junior officers since the Korean War.