Forget High Speed Rail. More Autobahns!
By John C Dvorak Saturday November 13, 2010
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Trains good, planes bad, cars best woo woo!
#19 – I noticed that as well.
I remember watching a Modern Marvels on the History channel that discussed the Autobahn. If I recall correctly the two most expensive tickets that you can receive while on the Autobahn are:
1. Tailgating.
2. Passing on the right.
They determine your fine for tickets in Germany based on your wealth. So a poor driver only pays a fraction of what a rich driver would pay for the same offense.
Hmmm, that sounds like how we get to pay taxes, but I don’t get to drive fast
#5 Bobo –
Are you trying to argue that rail is cheaper to build from the ground up than air?
Wow, I don’t trust American drivers above 40 MPH are you completely insane?
Oh and by the way, have you been in Germany lately. The roads are packed like ours so the only time you can drive like that is in the middle of the day or Sunday morning. You can forget driving like that to get to work. That’s why they have 160mph trains and most people are on them.
The future is electrified rail, because we have no other choice.
Fuel is going to get either very expensive or very scarce in the next decade, to the point that we will no longer care about time of travel, but energy cost of travel.
Trains are about 400 times more efficient than airplanes, and even more efficient than trains are boats, but boats can’t go everywhere trains can.
Rails can be electrified, making fossil fuel free travel possible. Airplanes cannot run on electricity, not for long distances anyways.
There is however a known technology to make airplanes more fuel efficient, in fact it can double efficiency, traveling the same distance with half the fuel.
It is called “prop planes”.
#19 – when you flash your lights they have to move over. I’ve driven over 140mph in a floaty volvo on the Autobahn.
That is why Germany is fun. And October fest…!
Though not much traffic in the clip, notice the diciplined driving culture compared to the US; slower traffic stays to the right, faster to the left. In the US people are all over.
Johnny C posts prevail on the board. Per wow!©
“#1 planes are always cheaper. On almost every level” I’m with you – I wouldn’t be surprised if flying was cheapest/safest, but airline travel would be a surprise when infrastructure was factored in.
Flying is cheap. Airline flying is encumbered by slabs of pork from fees to security to any other made up tax. Hire some longhaired flying Dutchman and you’ll get in air entertainment gratis.
Nope want the rails.
Only one section to have to worry about. One driver to have to stay focused. More control on the ground and atmospheric conditions (fog, cars at 200mph can we say 20 car pile up?).
I sit back and enjoy the ride and not have to be stressed due to either idiots that drive too slow or people with road rage because their wife didn’t give them a blowjob the night before cos she had a headache and farmville was calling.
High speed rail baby, eliminate the variables by reducing the amount of humans in the cockpit.
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THE OLD MENTALITY, was fun/cool/logical.
Those that wish to speed…LET THEM.
1 single person OUT in front, getting in a wreck, is LESS of a problem then 1 IDIOT in a pod of cars, GOING NUTS..
a few speeders OPENS up the group. LESS problems and accidents. REALLY.
WE CAN make cars designed for SLOW and FAST..the makers DONT WANT TO.
A car can be made with computer control of the engine, that would diagnose and SET the timing and Fuel/air ratio, as well as a few other things. but they dont want to ADD a DECENT transmission.
The real problem is the transmissions. China(?) made a new one, belt driven and MEGA Variable. It SHOULD/WOULD be a stick. as it would be a 5 speed with a 2-3 gear over drive on the side.
USA car makers DO NOT WANT to pay royalties..or BUY out a patent..that is the MAIN problem with MOST of the car makers. MOST everything has been DONE, but all the patents are SPREAD OUT and no one WANTS to copy anyone.
I love this country, but there’s no reason to suspect that we will ever get it right. We HAVE autobahns, and we have totally fucked them up with speed limits (even in the most open areas of the country), tolls (mostly in the NE quarter of the country), and most significantly, by not teaching our drivers to stay the hell out of the hammer lane unless they’re passing (worst case – Florida).
The crashes on the Autobahn are spectacular.
#32 and the rest of you..
WE DO need to thin the herd abit…
Wow, that was a rush! Great if it was done with better audio/stereo.
Kudos to the organ donors for amazing driving.
Yeah, i especially recommend air-fright… like the Luftbrücke during the west Berlin blockade.
What is missed here is the realization that we can not live exactly the way we like -with the maximum convenience that is- on the limited resources we have left. Sure personal transportation with cars is much more flexible, fun and sexy, air travel is much faster than train and etc. but if you count in the environmental impact, the energy consumption and such, trains are by far the most efficient way of transport.
And i think part of the problem is that most of you guys have not ever ridden a modern high speed train, its nice, quite and comfortable, and you can get a lot of work done with your laptop and a WiFi internet access.
My grandfather was a very religious man, but he also made lots of jokes about it (he loved to “jolly” people with them). He also owned a black ’56 T-bird, and one time as a kid I was riding with him and someone passed us going 85mph or so. He said to me, “Look, there goes another soul, hurrying hell-ward!”. The he advised me: “Let those who must hurry hell-ward hurry at their own pace.”
Don’t know about you, but to me the image of a person “hurrying to hell” is actually rather amusing.
Footnote:
He kept that T-bird in mint condition until the mid 1970′s. Then one day he went out to go for a drive, and it had vanished!
I said to him, “Maybe God took it.” He laughed.
“chris”,
Flashing lights on the Autobahn is illegal. And after all, only a douch would flash lights at a douch who needed lights flashed at him.
If you don’t move right on the Autobahn, you increase your risk of being hit from behind, and killed, at high speed.
Driving fast is actually no fun. The driver has to consentrate 100% of the time, and knows he is more likely to die if he hits a deer, has a flat tire, drives over a wet patch (at over 100, you move across large distances quickly, and can go from dry to snow before you are ready), encounters a sudden traffic jam, any number of things. It also burns gas like crazy; wind resistance increases by the square (or greater) with increasing speed.
You also have less control at high speed; the pilot takes on the role of guiding the car, rather than hamfistedly “driving” it. Although most modern cars seem to hunker down at speed.
Only a douch would suggest unlimited speeds have a place in America. These bastards want to see what their car will “do”, but not invest the money in having a safe 130+ MPH car.
Want to go fast, go to a race track, and the damage you do is to yourself.
Cool video, but video/audio quality was marginal, and it could have used some serious cutting. It was funny to see so many brake lights in the other lanes. What’s German for “WHAT THE HELL?!?”
BTW- This was GPS verified? I thought that was a US military system? Europe must also have navigation satellites I guess? That makes sense, but I was unaware of that.
Bobbo,
Read “The Simple Science of Flight” before you bastardly post another gem about airplanes. It is a short book, and if you can’t understand its elegant explanations, you’re a lot dumber than you think.