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Ahson Saeed, of Corvallis reacts over burnt debris from the mosque |
Agents with the Federal Bureau of Investigation have been called in to aid the investigation into an arson fire at the Corvallis mosque where Portland bomb plot suspect Mohamed Osman Mohamud sometimes attended.
The fire at the Salman Al-Farisi Islamic Center was discovered by an on-duty police sergeant at about 2:15 a.m. today. It took firefighters 10 minutes to put it out and it damaged about 80 percent of the office it was contained to. No one was injured.
FBI spokeswoman Beth Anne Steele said it’s standard for the agency to become involved in attacks on religious groups, but that the possible connection between the fire and the arrest of Mohamud makes their involvement even more important…
The FBI is offering a reward of up to $10,000 for information that leads to the identification, arrest and conviction of the person or people responsible for the fire…
Arthur Balizan, the Special Agent in Charge of the FBI in Oregon stated: “We have made it quite clear that the FBI will not tolerate any kind of retribution or attack on the Muslim community…We are working very closely with the leadership at the mosque. We will find the person responsible for this attack and bring the full force of the federal justice system to bear…”
If you’ve followed the details of the teenage nutball who wanted to commit terrorist murders at a tree lighting ceremony, you would know that the initiatives that turned this creep up to the FBI and Homeland Security came from the Islamic community in Oregon.
OTOH, the bigot that committed the arson attack upon the Corvallis mosque will likely turn out to be someone who has trouble reading the Sunday comics.
>Anyone wonder if someone at the mosque did it for insurance reasons?
And the canadians bombed pearl harbor to promote cameron’s movie
Ha, ha. Glad to have had gquaglia post #1. Allows me to “refine” rather than pour the foundation.
Little circles of concentric self interest and conformity, spreading out, colliding. Are ALL christian faiths the same, or do they share some commonalities by convention if not it fact BUT in reality they also have DIFFERENCES that are telling? What’s more important: the similarities, the supposed similaritiesl, or the differences?
I think the differences are more important, even controlling.
Very few “white men” had any intention at all in wiping out the American Indian when they first came to these shores. A few more, but way short of any majority, or even large minority, ever wanted to subjugate the black man into slavery. Our Founding Fathers spoke out LOUDLY about the common humanity of man.
Culture has a power beyond the sum total of its constituents. Perhaps only “family” is stronger than RELIGION, which is why God is our FATHER.
See how it works? Abraham’s task was/is all about making RELIGION number one. And when that religion is all about establishing one world fundamentalism to the exclusion of all others, and acts that way often when it has the power to do so, I think enough pieces of the unknowable future are in view.
Not being religious, this is not about certainty. Its about risk tolerance.
Not being religious, I see no reason to be tolerant about any of them.
How do you know what you know, and how do you change your mind?
Wait how is the FBI involved? The Portland City Council more than 5 years ago passed an ordinance saying they would not cooperate with any anti-terrorism task force. In stopping the bomb, the FBI agents should have been arrested for violation of Portland law.
Portland??? This is ~85 miles south.
Just keep reminding yourselves that if it had not been for avarice we would not be having this problem.
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OK, I’ll bite:
Cursor–what do you mean “if it had not been for avarice we would not be having this problem.”
The best sense of your post that I make is nonsense, even if it were true?? But maybe I have missed your point: I only have the dictionary and history to go on.
A bunch of nonsenese above about how the Chirsitans were just as bad and Bobbo even brings up the slaughter of the American redskin – though I fail to see how that is pertinent. No religious zeal in that.
The real point here is there is a religion, Islam, that is stuck in the 13th century. (Actually just some sects of that religion.) Geez. Even the Pope says it might be okay to wear a condom now and then. I’ve lived and worked with lots of Muslims in my career and the vast majority are wonderful, giving people. There are still a few who believe they should cut off my head because I won’t convert. While they are not the majority, they are a substantial subset of the population.
Violent Christian zealots are much fewer and further between. And the nice thing about them is they tend to kill themselves off before they can reek havoc on society. (We need a good Islamic Jonestown.)
Just amazes me what such stupid cattle Americans are. The country is rapidly slipping into fascism and people just don’t get.
I see that the Federal Bureau of Instigation has been at work again. The kid was an idealistic moron and the FBI set him up. Mean while real terrorists chuckle.
#29 And what would you be, sir? A citizen of the United Islamic Kingdom?
Or maybe from one of their colonies, i.e. Istralia? Islanada? I tell you, get out of central London and you’d think you were Faluja.
Religion sucks until you need to have life-saving surgery at a hospital started by Catholics or Presbyterians or Seventh-Day Adventists or Jews. The finest respiratory hospital in the world is National Jewish in Denver. So, if your lungs won’t suck in air, you can go to a place formed by people who…suck! Oh-ho-ho!
Religion sucks until you are homeless and are sheltered and fed by Catholic Charities’ soup kitchens or clothed by the Salvation Army.
Religion sucks until you want to go to any number of colleges or universities founded by churches or priests.
Religion sucks until you realize religious people are the ones feeding and clothing displaced people and refugees around the world, building wells, building schools, immunizing children, providing medical care for pregnant women and AIDS victims.
Bad people do bad things in the name of religion sometimes. But far more good is done.
ah sorry, the FBI has lost all credibility, in particular with these 3 Stooges and Lone Wolf type “plots” they supposedly foil. (for which they supply all the “materials” for the bust)
Their best “science faction” was the 1993 WTC bombing.. nowadays, they concoct the most ridiculous stories for public consumption. -sad.
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1. The US is at war with Islam.
2. Muslims continue to attack the United States civilian population.
3. The US refuses to equate the two.
I would not have wanted to be an American Japanese on December 8, 1941, nor a German American in 1943.
So? What do you liberals expect is going to happen when worlds collide? This is nothing new, and this is totally understandable.
War is always filled with innocent victims. Don’t blame me. How about blaming the aggressors?
Moronic, vicious insults expected, as usual.
#32,
religion sucks, until you figure out its based on the IDEALS OF SHARING, which is antithesis to HOW corporations WANT YOU TO BE..
34 – Faxon: I suppose we should wipe them all out. Just to be sure?
The fire might have been started by a rival sect of Muslims. Sunnis and Shiites hate one another. Especially since some sects think it is anti-Islam to turn in terrorists.
I don’t think this is done by a Christian at all. Besides a rival Muslim sect gets the benefit of making Christians look bad in addition to getting rid of a rival Muslim mosque.
>> Metals721 said, on November 28th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
>> Also I noticed Dallas’s tea bagger comment above. Just by using that term you show your true lock step big government roots.
You Tea Partiers screwed up by stupidly calling yourself “Tea Baggers” before you knew it was sex slang.
http://tinyurl.com/2bexjt8
The name stuck… and it will continue to stick because “Tea Bagger” is easier to say and spell and it’s funny.
Sorry, but using the term doesn’t mean one is lock-step with the big government.
# 32 arealmother said,”Religion sucks until…”
Dear Mom – I agree that some religious sponsored activities are wonderful for the participants and the recipients. I’ve worked more than one disaster as an employee of a religious charity.
But you know what? Religion still sucks.
Benjamin (#37)
Like I said earlier, I find it suspicious the fire was confined to the office. Seems a very odd thing for a “terrorist” fire bomber to do.
>> Benjamin said, on November 29th, 2010 at 10:10 am
>> The fire might have been started by a rival sect of Muslims. Sunnis and Shiites hate one another.
Holy smokes man, get a grip. The fire _might_ have been started by flaming chipmunks, too.
But you know, darn well, it almost surely set as a anti-Muslim backlash.