The stock market may be up but our country is headed down under the constant barrage of moronic things our ‘leaders’ on both sides are doing to us. And we let them.




  1. Guyver says:

    19, Cursor,

    It is always some shit someone has got to sneak onto these bills. If it is not pay increases for them its pork for their districts!

    31, Animby,

    I’d love to see a rule that says no amendments can be attached to a bill unless they reflect a true modification of the bill. In fact, why should a bill require ANY amendments before being voted on? Rewrite the damn thing if there’s a problem with it! Also, bill should be required to be written in plain language so that even the Speaker can understand them. Then there would be no more passing a bill so we can find out what’s in it.

    AGREED!

    30, MickieV,

    The conservatives are still bitter about the elections in 2008.

    I wouldn’t confuse legitimate criticisms of the current president as being bitter about the 2008 election.

    32, Orion314,

    Women on active duty should be FORCED to have abortions if they are unmarried. That would help remove the “get out of jail/military free card”, The fed needs to stop being a military welfare-jobs program-day care center.

    Although I agree with your criticisms of how military women COMMONLY get out of military duties, I disagree that women should be allowed to have tax-payer funded abortions.

    I realize this is going to offend those who want to walk the political correctness line, but I would argue to discharge them out of the service or don’t let them in to begin with.

    Having been a veteran of two different branches of the military I can tell you that the reality is far from any notion of G.I. Jane. The reality of it is 99% of the time when the tough work needs to be done, the women are the weakest link. It’s not their fault. They are physically different. Those differences don’t make them inferior in any way, but much of the back breaking work is not something most women can do.

    If you disagree, the military is even subtle about it in the differences in the PT standards between the genders. In the military, equal pay does not mean equal work between the genders.

    35, Benjamin,

    Raising taxes during a recession is asinine. Cut the damn spending already people. That is how you cut deficits. Right now taxes are going to skyrocket for small businesses because they are taxed as personal income for the owner.

    Thus instead of increasing payroll, they will be cutting jobs to pay for the Obama tax. (not extending the Bush taxcuts.) My employer just cut some jobs so now 10% of the people that work there are out of work. Unemployment was not the kind of CHANGE I HOPEd for.

    The liberal agenda is to blame all of Obama’s failures onto Bush. So if the unemployment climbs, they will wash their hands of any responsibility going into 2012. Liberals don’t take responsibility for their own actions. They pass the buck.

    36, SmartAlix,

    The money has to come from somewhere, and unemployment benefits aren’t even a significant fraction of the spending.

    The Stimulus Package passed under Obama has cost tax payers more than the entire Iraq War.

    By the way, the more money a person makes in this country the more disproportionate their % of income tax is. Keep it fair instead of making this a class warfare issue.

    37, ArianeB,

    Cutting jobless benefits WILL harm the economy. Every dollar spent on jobless benefits immediately enters the economy as the jobless have to pay for food and rent. We are basically creating 2 million new homeless people here folks.

    By doing that, the government is nurturing the masses to suck on their teat so as to justify more socialism. Heck why stop there? Why does anyone have to work. We can all stop and the government will provide for all our needs.

  2. jccalhoun says:

    I can’t believe how the Republicans are so brazenly defending the rich and still get the working and middle class to support them.

    Eat the rich.

  3. msbpodcast says:

    Why don’t you all write in “NOBODY!” on your ballots.

    Let the turds know what we think of them.

    We got along fine without the lying sacks of shit back in 1776 and, by damn, we’ll do it again.

    I think we just need to get rid of everybody who thinks they can represent anything bigger than a dog run.

    Since the US government is closed for business because of the stench from assholes from both sides of the aisle, lets just turn out the lights and send them off to get real jobs.

  4. ® says:

    DU should be forked into “talking point echo chamber” and “all else” though I suppose the main point of the blog has become ‘clickstream income for JCD’ and there’s nothing wrong with that, other than the waste of bandwidth visiting the blog has become.

  5. podman says:

    Why is the speaker constantly being prompted on what to say. Is she just a stand in because it seems like she doesn’t have a clue and is floundering under his request to be recognized.

  6. Common_Sense says:

    Guyver said, on December 1st, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    9, Glass Half Full,

    ” EVERY single Republican Senator has vowed to block ALL bills, ALL legislation until we vote on making the temporary tax cuts for the top 1% permanent.”

    I suppose that’s one way to look at it if your priorities don’t revolve around out of control spending by our government whereby you live in a bubble and seem to think that taxing our way to prosperity by providing entitlement programs in tough times is good for the country right now.

    Well, it’s actually the ONLY way to look at it. I know this because it’s actually what they said – in a written letter, signed by all 42 Senate Republicans. And I quote that letter:

    “For that reason, we write to inform you that we will not agree to invoke cloture on the motion to proceed to any legislative item until the Senate has acted to fund the government and we have prevented the tax increase that is currently awaiting all American taxpayers. ”

    note: not invoking cloture is what is known commonly as a filibuster, for those who don’t know.

    You can agree with their priority if you want to, but don’t pretend that isn’t what they are threatening. It’s right there – they wrote it down unambiguously and signed it.

  7. Common_Sense says:

    This is spiraling into a discussion of the republican filibuster threat, but I guess I don’t care, and its probably all tied to the lack of civility in Washington these days, so here goes:

    1. Tax cuts are not the most important issue facing the Senate.

    2. The people who COULD credibly be making the case that my above statement is wrong are the theoretical ideal libertarian-tea-party-fiscal-conservatives. You know, the ones who actually are concerned about the debt and deficit and say that we shouldn’t pass a spending bill without paying for it. But we don’t seem to have any real fiscal conservatives anymore. Instead we’re saddled with chumps paying lip service to those ideals who conveniently forget their deficit-hawk self-description if the thing we’re blowing up the debt and deficit for is a tax cut. Effectively, we should just borrow $700 billion more from China and move farther from a balanced budget. These are the ao-called conservatives? What the…? Where are the Republicans arguing that we should pay for these cuts with offset spending cuts?

    3. Both parties want to give all Americans a tax cut on income up to 250,000. The difference is that Republicans want to give an extra tax cut people making more than that – people who won’t be forced to spend the extra money to survive and won’t be economically forced to stimulate the economy by doing so. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget office shows this isn’t the best way to keep the economy on track. As does any sensible analysis of the subject. You can argue that it isn’t the governments’ money, and when we’re running surpluses you’ll get my vote for tax cuts every time rather than giving the gov’t more money to play with. But we need that money just to stay less in the red. It won’t by itself even get us in the black. (And yes, we must also cut spending.)

    4. We’ve had the lowered tax cuts on the rich for the last 10 years, and we’ve lots thousands of jobs. The solution is to not change anything? The adage that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result comes to mind…

  8. Common_Sense says:

    BTW: What the hell B-string Democrat is that running that session?

  9. ArianeB says:

    #41 “By doing that, the government is nurturing the masses to suck on their teat so as to justify more socialism. Heck why stop there? Why does anyone have to work. We can all stop and the government will provide for all our needs.”

    This is why the GOP sucks. Dishing out crappy rhetoric and straw man arguments when they cant deal with reason.

    Guyver, apparently you do not realize that there are two forms of socialism, Government and Corporate. The right wing seems content with corporate socialism which often comes at the expense of tax payers in one way or another.

    Bush Jr was the biggest corporate socialist ever, dumping trillions of tax payer dollars into private corporate hands. The left’s complaint against Obama is his continued pursuit of Bush’s corporate agenda.

    Meanwhile, government socialism is a tiny percent of the budget, while corporate socialism is more than half.

    The irony is that GOVERNMENT SOCIALISM WORKS!!

    Do you know what countries are the most technological advanced, have the best healthcare, the best education, and the best standard of living? Its the SOCIALIST countries like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, etc. The United States is not even on the top 10 in any of those categories. So all of this trash talking about socialism is pure unfounded rhetoric. Its has become a dirty word through constant corporate propaganda.

  10. Pieman says:

    I’ll bet Madam Speaker can’t even wipe her own ass. What a bunch of morons!

  11. smartalix says:

    The Right has always supported privatizing profit while letting the risk fall on the back of the taxpayer. What I don’t get is how their lame rhetoric and obvious disingenuous pandering convinces the people who are actually hurt by the policies they support.



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