A hosting company has said it will take immediate legal action against Visa and MasterCard over the credit card companies’ refusal to process donations for whistle-blower site WikiLeaks.
DataCell, based in Iceland, facilitates donations to WikiLeaks. DataCell said it had been losing revenue since Visa and MasterCard decided to stop processing WikiLeaks’ donations.
“DataCell…has decided to take up immediate legal actions to make donations possible again,” DataCell CEO Andreas Fink said in a statement Wednesday. Fink told ZDNet UK that DataCell would pursue legal action as soon as possible: “Not being able to receive money from the public for a week can cost WikiLeaks seven-digit figures in losses, and DataCell as well, as it is unable to process any cards.”
Animby, you sir you have mastered dumbassery. I salute you.
This is something called jurisdiction.
The laws of the United States don’t physically extend outside of the United States to non-citizens.
This is why the Gitmo detainees don’t get due process and constitutional rights. Except for like the 2 Gitmo guys who were actual American citizens.
#60 So, basically is the same as the illegal aliens issue. There was a law broken here or there but hey, who cares!
The only one bowing to dumbya was Obama, when he kept his defense secretary & that good, nice guy Bernanke. But hey, nobody has called you a hypocrite better than you just did.
So if it’s espionage, I don’t get the clandestine part. Wikileaks is anything but clandestine.
#63 Riiiiight, they’re pretty transparent.
Animby==you really are “wrong.” Wrong about what the law IS, as opposed to what you might think it should be? Actually, I’m happy to see this as with the right factual basis, your education, intelligence, experience, and humanity otherwise so continuously displayed can flower again?
1. Assange is not a US citizen. He cannot be charged with treason.
2. Assange is not a US citizen. He can be charged with espionage under our LAWS, if the US can get jurisdiction over him which he does not have to voluntarily submit to.
3. When charged with espionage, all the other LAWS of the USA also apply==like freedom of the press to publish “secrets” that they otherwise innocently/legally come into prossession of.
4. There is no First Amendment Provision regarding possession/distribution of diamonds. There is for speech ESPECIALLY for political speech.
As posted above, VIETNAM is one of the VERY BEST EXAMPLES OF THE NEED FOR TREASON/REVOLUTION from time to time. I asked you before: how high the body count to keep the lies secret?
Truth. Why do people hate it/fail to balance the competing harms?
Bobbo – I knew I should have dropped this when I had a chance. There is a lot of venom in a couple of the posts above. You, at least, try to make a discussion out of it – no matter how dogmatic you are.
I made no mention of a treason charge. Please don’t put words in my mouth.
As for the other charges I suggested, espionage is the most likely to stand up to international scrutiny. If the US decides to issue a warrant for his arrest, they will then have to get whatever country he is in to agree to extradition. Difficult but nowhere near impossible. Once in the US espionage and any other charges they wish to prosecute can certainly be filed.
Now, since Ms Myeres has accused me of dumbassery and then gone on to say, “This is why the Gitmo detainees don’t get due process and constitutional rights.” I’ll just repay the favor by letting her know the real reason is because we claim they are enemy combatants and being held under military law.
Pedro, I seldom respect what you say but I do apologize that Mr Noname believes we are the same person. Of course, the rest of his post shows a lot of disconnect with reality, too.
Now, if you all will excuse me, it’s late here and I’m going to bed. You may now safely say anything you wish about me. Oh, by the way, I had chicken vindaloo not tacos for dinner.
I’m amazed how many people are comfortable that corporations, banks, and DNS providers were easily coerced without any due process. China caved Google and now the US has caved a number of large companies.
Animby, enjoy your tacos.
I was criticizing your comments on the application of law, not you personally.
But the Gitmo detainees are held as enemy combatants specifically because they don’t have rights as citizens of the United States.
Likewise, Assange isn’t under the jurisdiction of US law — he isn’t a citizen and he isn’t in the United States.
#68 – “Assange isn’t under the jurisdiction of US law” I’ll bet you were one of the cheerleaders last week when Nigeria issued an arrest warrant for Dick Cheney. Cheney is not a citizen nor is he in Nigeria.
Same thing for Assange. If the US decides to prosecute, they will issue a warrant and hope somebody can be induced to extradite him to the US. Once in our custody, they can prosecute any charge they wish. AND he gets many of the same civil rights as US citizens.
“Gitmo detainees are held as enemy combatants specifically because they don’t have rights as citizens of the United States.” Your logic is a little twisted there. They are held as enemy combatants because they were captured fighting against the US. They do not have US citizen rights because they are not US citizens. In fact, a couple of years ago, one of them was deemed to be a US citizen (even though he only a tenuous claim) and removed from Gitmo to the US proper. So, enemy combatants, who are US citizens DO get US citizen rights.
It’s hard to take “dumbassery” as less than a personal attack. By the way, I apologize to you for mistaking your name. hmeyers came through my sleep addled brain as if you were channeling the previous nominee to the Supreme Court. And that is why I assigned you the feminine gender – even though you write in a masculine tone. But, I have recently remembered she spelled her name differently (Miers). It was not an intentional insult and I do apologize.
#69 Don’t worry, Pelosi will give them citizenship. After all, gitmo detainees can’t be less than illegal aliens
Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. . . . I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson
# 71 Dennis
“I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors.”
Dennis very true!! The smartest and wisest people I know don’t dare to have TV’s or bother with News Papers; they actually think for themselves!!
Most of the brain dead idiots on this blog are like stepford wives to Fox News and just regurgitate what Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and Orielly tell them.
Taco breath # 62 pedro is the classic idiot trying to play smart with his attempt at logic, circular logic that is.
Animby: extradite Assange and charge him with….what?
Dennis said, on December 10th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper.
You must be referring to Rupert Murdoch’s Toilet Papers, they’re really full of Bullshit.
#72 said: “The smartest and wisest people I know don’t dare to have TV’s or bother with News Papers; they actually think for themselves!!”
Yeah, like you, they rather create the facts in their mind rather than learn about them. That’s how smart they are. That and using telepathy. Using the whole brain.
Dumbass!
#74 You’re so right. I just saw that channel and I could swear they created a video were Clinton was president again and there was a black guy taking Monica Lewinsky’s place.
# 75 pedro
Hey taco breath, in your decrepit and declining mind I certain you believe I am a Dumbass!
And I am honored that you call me a Dumbass!.
It’s like a double negative, logically meaningless!!
For those wondering…that last was a quote from Thomas Jefferson. You know….a President, and an author of the little document called The Constitution. That thing that we are supposed to be governed by? The one that is supposed to limit the Governments ability to tread on the people of the country? The one that the government says the ‘terrorists’ hate us for?
#76 Then I hereby double honor you: Dumbass.
#77 Yeah yeah. We get it. The ‘leakers have done nothing wrong and they’re 100% transparent. That’s why then the guys at openleaks are just envious morons.
# 78 pedro,
taco breath speaks more:
“That’s why then the guys at openleaks are just envious morons.”
You seem to be the envious moron, a mindless sycophant of your false conservative Gods: Fox News, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and Orielly.
Your posts are allays entertaining; it’s like reading Dumb Dora comics, and still you are dumber.
I congratulate you on your honest and certifiable dumbness!!!
Carry on envious moron!!!
#79 Envious of whom, you? Aaaaaaahahahahahahahaha. That was a good one, Mustard