It’s voluntary, but if you refuse to get one, doesn’t that automatically mean you’re a potential terrorist like those who “Opt out” at airports? You trust your government and corporations, don’t you? Don’t you!!! They’re doing it for the children!
White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt announced to the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research on Friday that President Obama intended to turn over development of a national Internet ID to the Commerce Department.
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According to Commerce Secretary Gary Locke, as reported by CNET: “We are not talking about a national ID card. We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy, and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities.”We are talking about a government-controlled system. That is exactly what we are talking about. In fact, the presentation of what few facts exist is vague enough as to be good for nothing but worry. Here are the few facts on the program that are available:
- 1. The government will enable the creation of verified identities
- 2. The government will create an “Identity Ecosystem”
- 3. Getting a verified identity will be elective
- 4. Verizon, Google, PayPal, Symantec and AT&T support the program
- 5. A user would be able to use one login to sign in to all of their sites
So, a user would have one, “verified” ID, which would be known by the government, and a set of large corporations.
The £4.5bn national identity card scheme is to be scrapped within 100 days, the home secretary, Theresa May, announced today.
The 15,000 identity cards already issued are to be cancelled without any refund of the £30 fee to holders within a month of the legislation reaching the statute book.
Abolishing the cards and associated register will be the first piece of legislation introduced to parliament by the new government. May said the identity documents bill will invalidate all existing cards.
The role of the identity commissioner, created in an effort to prevent data blunders and leaks, will be abolished.
The government said the move will save £86m over four years and avoid £800m in costs over the next 10 years that would have been raised by increased charges. An allied decision to cancel the next generation of biometric fingerprint passports will save a further £134m over four years. Savings to the public under the whole package will total £1bn.
The publication of the identity documents bill today marks the end of an eight-year Whitehall struggle over compulsory identity cards since they were first floated by the then-home secretary David Blunkett in the aftermath of 9/11.
More than 5.4m combined passport and identity cards were due to be issued when the scheme was started in earnest next year. This was projected to rise to 10m ID cards/passports being issued ever year from 2016 onwards.
http://guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/27/theresa-may-scrapping-id-cards
The Brits are scrapping their junk after major failures and cost overruns already.
And Obama wants to give us his junk?
Government ID is JUNK
Obama you are an IDIOT
Any of you libs scraping the Obama stickers from your Priuses yet?
If not, what will it take?
> Any of you libs scraping the Obama stickers from
> your Priuses yet?
Sure – just let me know when he starts another illegal war.
Obama says: “. . . even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords.”
Umm, this little “problem” has been solved already by lastpass
Steve Gibson (a security expert) has vetted this program in detail by interviewing the software architect, checking out the code, etc. He details everything about it in “Security Now!” Episode 256, recorded on July 9, 2010.
I would trust this program 100% more than I would any national Internet ID implemented by our government. Why should I trust them to keep my “Internet ID.” They REALLY must think the average American citizen is complete putty in their hands. They are playing the “big nanny” and I don’t like it one little bit. Just look at the ridiculousness our public schools stoop to in order to protect “the children.”
I sense a sickening pattern happening in Washington right now. Do we really want our government to be as equally inept as these boneheaded school-teachers and principles? How many senators do you think REALLY understand the technical aspects of cyber-security? This is bad for two reasons: 1) these folks in Washington are not technically-minded enough to appreciate the ramifications of this proposal, and 2) how can we trust them not to instigate some sort of tracking, or back-door into the system? Just consider AT&T’s Implementation of NSA Spying on American Citizens back in 2004 or 2005 for a good reason; or even the case in Florida where citizen’s DMV information was sold by that department.
Count me out please.
Obama is nothing but a shill.
Ron Paul for 2012.
2 words – F Off.
To the posters recommending LastPass, I add my name. Why anyone wouldn’t use it, or a similar password locker, I don’t know. There are several, including LastPass, that are free.
Anyway, UncDave, you’re a few days behind on this. We’ve already had a brief discussion of this plan. I laugh at the voluntary aspect. I’m betting within a few years, the registration will be done through the IRS. What better way to monitor what you buy from Amazon so it can be taxed? And other less benevolent reasons.
If it goes through, watch the USA try to do what the Australian gov’t has done: buy up all the internet fiber in the whole country. ISPs now buy their service from the gov. What better way for OZ to eventually implement their plan to censor the internet? Government, by it’s nature tries to become totalitarian.
Crap like this makes me wanna go listen to Alex Jones. Or Adam Curry. And then feel dirty…
From what I understand, this is ostensibly for security and privacy for ecommerce. Since I never use a credit card online, I have neither the need nor interest in a government internet ID.
Thought this was why the gubment issued me a passport.
Call me whacky, but doesn’t this whole internet thingie cross over borders?
Sign up hell, I’ll start making them.
Hell no.
The current sheeple ID system of drivers licenses seem to work ok but I see the need for some sort of internet fraud protection system. Glad it’s optional but I’d like to see benefits first so I’ll decline.
Furthermore, irresponsible cunts like Palin have demonstrated that influential people can target individuals for murder in this day and age. Why would anyone want to be exposed to the fringe loonies out there waiting for approval to commit atrocities?
Yeah, sure, whatever.
They already have my info, including some biometric data, on my green card.
Why the hell do they need more? They don’t!
I can just see them carrying my complete genome and medical history too on the card.
They’ll do dick-all with it.
That would be too much like a health-care card.
Idiot Americans want a health-dont-care system.
32, Dallas,
Oh, so the fact that so many on the left CLEARLY expressed they wanted to kill people on the right has no bearing because none of them were “influential”? LOL.
No wonder you moon bats think the things people on the right say is trying to incite violence. That seems to be the only way you guys think.
The face of hate: http://tinyurl.com/4ldqee4
#34 The left’s rants have them appearing as deranged as the shooter, and its helping the Tea Party.
ah… No.
-s
# 32 Dallas said, “Why would anyone want to be exposed to the fringe loonies…”
ring … ring … “Hello, Pot? This is Kettle…”
This happens after the FCC asserts control over the NET…amid calls for another Fairness Doctrine…
Progressives are a clear and present danger to our liberty.
It will only work if ecommerce merchants also require it for payment, or if websites require it for signup. You can be forced to get one of these cards, but you can’t be forced to use it if there as another legal option available,
Sounds like this would be a hackers dream.