A 61 year-old woman…has given birth to her own grandson.
Kristine Casey acted as a surrogate for daughter Sara Connell after she was unable to have children of her own. Mrs Connell and her husband Bill are the biological parents of the boy, who is called Finnean.
The 35 year-old lecturer sat holding her mother’s hand as she delivered the baby boy at a hospital in Chicago, Illinois, USA. She said her mother, who gave birth to her last child almost 30 years ago, had offered to act as a surrogate when she suffered years of heartache trying to conceive…
She said when she heard her son cry for the first time after the caesarean section delivery she could not hold back the emotion.
Mrs Casey, a mother-of-three, said she was grateful to be able to help her daughter.
“The three of the happiest days of my life were giving birth to my daughters,’ and I thought I could choose to do this for someone I love,” she said.
Bound to be a hundred preachers, politicians and pundits who will spend the next week NOT approving of this. Meanwhile, a couple of families are made happier by the event.
I’m against this.. for one if your highly religious then god obviously choose them not to have kids. 2nd i really don’t care. I think it would be better for them to have adopted. I think people forget this fact when they can’t have kids.
Why do religious assholes have suck shitty websites?
http://faithfulwordbaptist.org/page13.html
Really? A 12 year old could design a site better than this. Maybe pray for better web designers next time?
# 20 spsffan said, “Infertility is not sickness.”
Oh? How about insanity? ‘Cause you’re not sick, you’re just crazy. So, we shouldn’t find a way for you to think straight? But enough about you. What about a birth defect? Not a “sickness” so should we not fix them? Scoliosis. Not a “sickness.” Shall we resign them to a wheelchair or give them a back brace and crutches? Regardless of your answers to the above, are you saying women who cannot have a baby because they are “sick” can avail themselves of this procedure but women who are infertile but not diseased can not? Poop. Your mother obviously wasted her womb.
# 21 jay said, “god obviously choose them not to have kids”
Excuse me? is your god such a weak entity it couldn’t stop these people from going around the almighty’s decision? Seems to me if I were ‘god” and hated some woman so much I made her infertile, I could probably stop granny, too. Do you even think about what you’re saying? Maybe god just wanted to see if these people were really determined to have a child against all odds? Your god is certainly a capricious and incompetent supreme being.
After due refection I don’t think this is any of my business.
#24–deowll==humor and insight? Wow, Mom, Wow. Yes, a sound appreciation of FREEEEEDOM that Libs and Cons should agreeably support. What a concept.
Although to risk being on Animby anti-god rant list: I don’t think the gov should pay for infertility cures. So, infertility has many characteristics of a disease, but it is not a disease. Yes: “a condition” like having no sense of humor? Ha, ha. The world needs more lerts.
As a right wing Christian I can say that right wing Christians have no problem with this.
#25 Bobbing and Weaving –
Shame on you. How did this woman get to be infertile? Maybe she had a bad case of endometriosis. Ooops, not a disease in the sense it is not caused by bacteria or viruses or even prions. Maybe she is infertile because of ovarian cancer. That, too, is just a “condition”, I guess. I know, I know: Maybe she has myxedema – no wait, that’s caused by a thyroid “condition.” Cystic Fibrosis, bicornate uterus, complications of IUD, pituitary problems? Poop, I give up. So many conditions not enough “diseases.” WAIT! Maybe she had TB. There you go. Caused by a bacterium AND can infect the fallopian tubes. NOW she is definitely infertile due to a “disease”. Noooo. Let me think. It’s actually just a complication of a disease, i.e. a “condition.” Nope. No babies for her!
Seriously, Bobbo. In my work I’ve seen more kids looking for parents than you can imagine. I’ve worked with so many orphanages I can’t even count. I think it’s almost criminal of these people to invest so much money in something so dangerous just to satisfy the vanity of having their own biological child. But, as deowll says – ain’t none o’ my business.
UNLESS someone says we should use my tax money. Then I will condemn the procedure.
To my own defense before anyone jumps in: yes, I know all of the “conditions” I mentioned are diseases. Only “infectious” diseases have a microbial cause. The lady of the article had been preggers before. Twice. Though at least once was by IVF (twins). She had stillbirths and a miscarriage. Infertility has many causes, very few caused by infectious agents. So, does that make them all “conditions”? I guess we could say that Stephen Hawking does not have a disease, just a condition…
To our bible thumpers.
Let me propose a hypothetical question. (Alfie, that means I’m just dreaming up a situation for discussion.)
Let us posit a woman who is able to get pregnant. In fact, she gets pregnant easily and has done so several times. Problem is, along about three or four months into the gestation period, she spits out a dead baby. Another miscarriage.
The question then is this: is it moral of her to keep trying and “killing” these human lives and is it immoral for her to use the services of a surrogate mother to carry her fertilized egg to term safely? (Sorry for the big words, Alfie.)
I know the bible doesn’t have anything to say about surrogates but even Sarah sent Hagar to Abraham when she was infertile. So my guess is surrogacy would be okay and surrogacy without fornication ought to be even better!
Just curious.
Can “I Am My Own Grandpa” be far behind?
#2 is a troll
#28-> “I know the bible doesn’t have anything to say about surrogates but even Sarah sent Hagar to Abraham when she was infertile.”
And look what kind of problems we have in the middle east because of that.
Surrogacy Leads to Terrorism!
It Must Be Stopped!
#27–Animby, Blaster of Dreams==ha, ha. Reread my #25. “I think” we are in total agreement and I even begged not to be put on your rant list==but my prayers were not answered. Does a “condition” being the result of a disease turn that condition into a disease? If so, what is the DIFFERENCE between a disease and a condition?
Sadly Animby you fail the basic test of analytical thinking: NOTE the SIMILARITIES, then note the DIFFERENCES, then COMPARE AND CONTRAST. Analysis that proceeds only on noting the similarities, or one failing to distinguish between causes and effects is DEFECTIVE analytical thinking. Sad to see in a doc: kinda makes you sound like a nurse. ((Ha, ha==that one cracked me up!))
So answer me this: did you actually think about what I posted, or did a specific red flag just set you off, or are you now primed to disagree with me whenever possible, or did you skip over the phrase: “I don’t think the gov should pay for infertility cures.”
Say what?
#32 Oh Bob! Yes, I recognized that we agreed on federal funding prohibitions for what amounts to vanity babies. But the “red flag” that set me off was your phrase:”infertility has many characteristics of a disease, but it is not a disease” Infertility is most certainly a disease. It’s a malfunction of the normal operating system much like Dr Hawking’s body’s loss of motor neuron function. ALS is not, to the best of our knowledge, caused by any eternal factor but I doubt you’d fail to call it a disease.
You ask me what is the difference between a disease and a condition? Ain’t none. Simple as that. No analysis necessary.
It’s a perfect synonym: A disease is a medical condition and a medical condition is a disease. Even a nurse could get it right.
I’m not “primed” to respond in opposition to your posts. I often think you’re trolling a bit but, more often than not, I agree with you.
Thank you animby==thats a relief. Never appropriate to manufacture an argument when so many exist honestly?
So, a medical condition is a disease and vice versa? So, if my medical condition is that I am healthy, then I have a disease? Life is a disease process then even one like mine free from any negative symptoms?
I think in your passion to bill for something that you are STILL glossing over the distinctions.
How about plastic surgery? Car accident-busted face-reconstruction for basic function and appearance but patients wants to look like Bradjolina? Is that condition also a disease? and if so, which part?
We don’t need more people in the world. Another condition, or another disease? How do we both agree the taxes should not pay for the correction of this condition if it were a disease which we both support should be paid for by taxes?
You ain’t thinking straight. I admire the sentiment but you ain’t thinkin straight.
If I could, I would look much smarter than I do==this post fer instance.
Bad typo in #34 to Animby. Last Para should read:
To your other issue, I can not modify a post after it is submitted just like everyone else here. If I could, I would look much smarter than I do==this post fer instance.
#35 Bobbin – Where’s the BS meter?
Somehow you got the spelling and grammar errors in your Border’s post #1 corrected. I remember reading “hinderance” twice and those are now “hindrance.” “I forget the exact spelling in the original but warehouse is not spelled with a wh. There were some other errors, too. I think there was a “they’re” when you meant “their”. Maybe a couple more errors. So, if you didn’t change it, then you talked the editor into running a spell check. Cripes! It’s 3:30 in the a.m. Why am I arguing with you.
Good night/morning.
Meanwhile, a couple of families are made happier by the event.
And there is an orphan who still doesn’t have any parents because of this selfishness.
If right wing politicians want to outlaw abortion they should outlaw infertility treatments to balance it out.
Animby–right you are. I don’t recall hindrance but you are right about wharehouse. I enjoy spelling it that way for my own amusement. I wonder if our Ed’s are that protective, or just that irritated? I only wish they would correct what I mean?
Ha, ha. I feel very special.
Taking this from another angle, it is expensive “premium” medical procedures like (which the U.S. is the #1 consumer of) that that makes our healthcare system the most costly in the world.
Actually no, it isn’t. Procedures like this are so rare they garner notice. It is the “end of life” scenarios that add so much to our health care. People being kept in a coma in an intensive care unit (at several thousand/day) for several months before pulling the plug.
Turning the family tree into the family bush is not a good idea.