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DELTONA, Fla. – Volusia County deputies were sent to Timbercrest Elementary School Tuesday after a student was found holding what appeared to be a $1 million bill.
According to Central Florida News 13 , school officials said the money looked very real and they were worried that it could be in circulation. However, $1 million bills were never in print or circulation to begin with.
The bill was only a novelty item, and a parent provided News 13 with a similar bill.
How stupid can those “school officials” be… and the deputies that showed up?
Found by just me.
Uh, hate to state the obvious.
On the front, it clearly says:
“THIS NOTE IS DEFINITELY NOT LEGAL TENDER”
I guess teachers and other school staff have somehow lost the skill to read?
[The bill in the photo is not necessarily the same as the one in the story. - ed.]
#20–nobody==”legal difference” huh? Do you have a cite to a case that tells you this or is your idea counterfeit?
Common sense has fled the country!
Apparently I may be the only one here old enough to remember that you could an can purchase play money just like this. Since it was sold as a toy or novelty I think it makes your point moot bobbo.
As a case in point you may Google play money or more specifically millbill.com.
Well, here’s one such case of “impossible money” being subject to official action:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642528/posts
Years ago I recall reading an article about tourists using monopoly money in some foreign place, but I forget the details.
How far from “obvious” in what context can vary from instance to instance. Common sense varies depending on what sense it is that is shared in common?
You got me there So What: we’ve all seen those beach towels in the form of a dollar bill? Now those are fake and legal so any other kind of fake must also be legal as well.
Emanuel Kant beat you.
Interesting counter point I would question under what laws the secret service used to validate the seizure. Per the statements in § 491. Tokens or paper used as money, there would need to be an “intent to defraud” or “with knowledge or reason to believe that such tokens, slugs, disks, devices, papers, or other things are intended to be used unlawfully or fraudulently” being the principal concepts. To that end a person could make any denomination they chose as a novelty simply by putting on the object a statement such as “This note is definitely not legal tender” only if they attempt to use it as legal tender do they then violate the treasury law. That an individual would attempt to deposit pr use one says more about their intelligence than the potential of illegal activity by the producer.
sorry that pr should have been or,
So What–stand proud: never correct your typo’s unless you are convinced no one reading your post is intelligent enough to figure it out. See just how much I rispectk everyone here at DU?
Several issues being conflated: the intent of the producer verses the intent of someone using a legal/joke facsimile to make a fraudulent transaction verses being found “not guilty” as a matter of law verses being arrested for it, hassled for it, and so on. Yes, lot’s of tangential issues confusing whatever it is that anyone wants to focus on.
One good reason to outlaw all such close but not possible forgeries is the routine action of banks to process paperwork and correct errors later when they are found out as well as interfering with cash machines and who knows what other recipients of fraud there are?
Beach towel=ok. Million dollar bill–one or two steps less appropriate.
You can buy these on the net. The transaction to do so is legal, as they state all the legal mumbo jumbo necessary to avoid counterfeiting confusion.
I have one minted in the 70′s that looks quite real, has all the correct wording and symbols of a $5,000 bill (except the denominations) and was intaglio printed on linen so it feels real. It was a gift.
In 2001, a man bought a sundae at a Dairy Queen with a $200 bill (with George W. Bush on it) and received $198 in change.
In March 2004, Alice Regina Pike attempted to use a $1,000,000 bill with a picture of the Statue of Liberty on the front to purchase $1671.55 in goods from a Wal-Mart in Covington, Georgia, for which she was then arrested.
These are real bills:
* The $500 bill featured a portrait of William McKinley
* The $1,000 bill featured a portrait of Grover Cleveland
* The $5,000 bill featured a portrait of James Madison
* The $10,000 bill featured a portrait of Salmon P. Chase (you can see these in Vegas)
* The $100,000 bill featured a portrait of Woodrow Wilson
[And all of those are out of circulation. - ed.]
[Yes, last printed in 1929. But they're still worth face value. - kd.]
# 4 Norman Speight said, “pray for the arrival of a penicillin specifically targetting this appalling virus.”
Sorry. Penicillin is ineffective against viruses.
Shotguns might work…
Assume it was real money… Is it illegal for a kid to carry cash in Florida?
Wow. I have one of those fake $1M bills in my wallet. It looks and feels amazingly real. No where on mine does it says “Not legal tender”.
But, I would never be dumb enough to attempt to pass it as payment. That could get me in trouble. I’m confident that I can’t get in trouble for having it since no such bill ever existed in the first place. But I’m damn sure I could get in trouble if I ever pretended it was real.
Someone – send them a real 1 million dollar bill so they will know how to spot a fake one:
Timbercrest Elementary
2401 Eustace Ave.
Deltona, FL 32725
(386)575-4221
FAX (386)626-0425
# 7 RASTERMAN said, “30 seconds of research by a school official would have saved much all around.”
As would 3 seconds of looking at the note.
There is the very real possibility that this IS a real note that has escaped from the Mint and was not intended for introduction until next summer when the price of gas hits $100,000 per gallon. Inflation is coming, folks!
Reminds me of an event that happened here in 1996 that was exactly the same. Some 7th grader had a novelty $3 bill with Bill Clinton on it. Teacher calls cops, cops call in the SS. When the SS got to town they told the PD to release the kid, yes they tossed him in Juvenile Hall, and drop all charges because it was clearly a novelty item widely sold and available to everyone. I still have a mint stack of them in a drawer somewhere.
After that the parents decided to sue the teacher, school, PD and the individual officer that made the arrest. Don’t know how that ended but the officer was forced out of the department 3 weeks later.
Reminds me of a joke: A guy walks into a bar and asks the bartender to break a $7 bill. The bartender says, “Sure thing” and hands the guy a $3 and a $4.
Ah, the Last Days of New Rome…..with school officials so dumb, doesn’t it just make you wonder what the upcoming generation of young voters will be like? Perfect little citizens of the United States of MegaCorp.
There’s some fed rule that money that is counterfeit in appearance can’t be the same size as regular money, it must be 20% larger or something like that for it to be legal to possess.
That being said, a $1,000,000 bill is in our future once the GOP spends us into bankruptcy with their love of tax cuts, defense spending and bailouts of the rich. Hello Zimbabwe! Remember do not use $1,000,000 bills as toilet paper, it stops up the drain.