This is what will happen for all pets registered with us immediately after the Rapture:
1. Our non-Christian administrators will activate our rescue plan.
2. Volunteers will be alerted immediately by email and telephone that they have been activated.
3. Pets will be assigned to our Volunteer Pet Caretakers based upon location and other factors.
4. Our administrators and Volunteer Pet Caretakers will do whatever it takes to find and rescue your pets. If your pet has a location chip, they’ll use that, or they’ll go to every location you’ve registered with us, and, if your pets are not at one of those locations, they’ll search for your cars as well as stay in contact with the local pet shelters. If they are unable to reach a Volunteer Caretaker in your area for whatever reason, our administrators will communicate with local animal organizations, like the Humane Society, to advocate for your pet’s rescue and care.
5. Our administrators will stay in touch with our Volunteer Pet Caretakers regarding each and every pet to be sure everything is being done to rescue and care for them.
Think about it, do you really want to trust a bunch of godless Liberals to raise your precious pup?
Don’t you eyes just tear up?
Try
1. Decaf
2. lithium
3. 9mm hole in your head to let the demons escape.
Not necessarily in that order.
Stupid religious nutjobs.
Check out evilbible dot com and godisimaginary dot com.
Stupid religious nutjobs.
Sybil lives as multiple pin heads on DU, but it takes more than a pointy head to make a point.
Fact remains, you progressive shitheads voted for Obama, who, apart from exploiting white guilt to win elections, never accomplished anything, even his stint as community organizer was a complete and utter failure.
Har de har har: Rub your hind legs together, lets hear some real progressive concerto…
When the Rapture starts, I’m gonna grab my skeet gun. ^o^
PULL!
#63 wrong Alpheeye
you live in a dream world(and its a bad dream)
http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
As usual, when confronted TeaDud changes the subject. Soon he’ll abandon the thread altogether, to start peddling his shit on another post.
#51Irrelevant and immaterial. Let’s review your argument, that God slew children without allowing their parents the opportunity to save them.
You argued 1)God never made the offer to them, only to Israelites; 2)Egypt is so big, they couldn’t possibly have heard God’s instructions before their children died.
I refuted your argument thusly:
1a)The offer was open to all, as seen by the appearance of the “law of the foreigner” in reference to the passover after this event, that implies its principles existed prior to its being codified:
49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. (Exo 12:49 KJV)
Had an Egyptian obeyed God and did as He commanded the Israelites do, I have no doubt the Destroyer would have spared that house just as he did obedient Israelites.
1b)Disobedient Israelites had their children slain, just as disobedient Egyptians did, PROVING this was not about race, it was about obedience to the revealed will of God.
2)This is confirmed by the repeated demand God’s people be let go, which would have ended the plagues against Egypt:
NKJ Exodus 8:8 Then Pharaoh called for Moses and Aaron, and said, “Entreat the LORD that He may take away the frogs from me and from my people; and I will let the people go, that they may sacrifice to the LORD.” (Exo 8:8 NKJ)
2) Against my argument Egyptians could obey God as the Israelites did, you argued the land was too vast for news to travel in time for them to save their firstborn.
BUT you suppose that, you cannot prove it because no one knows Ancient Egyptian society, what technology they did or didn’t have. The pyramids testify to that fact.
However, the text implies 14 days for the news to travel”
10 So Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh; and the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not let the children of Israel go out of his land.
NKJ Exodus 12:1 Now the LORD spoke to Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,
2 “This month shall be your beginning of months; it shall be the first month of the year to you.
…
6 `Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight.
7 `And they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel of the houses where they eat it.
(Exo 11:10-7 NKJ)
And we do know ancient Egypt was the Nile, the Nile ancient Egypt, aka “the black land” along the fertile crescent. So News traveling by boat could do so, throughout all the land.
Moses could have heard reports the waters became blood “throughout all the land” meaning all the land that was inhabited.
NKJ Exodus 7:21 The fish that were in the river died, the river stank, and the Egyptians could not drink the water of the river. So there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt. (Exo 7:21 NKJ)
So your argument it was impossible they could have heard, is refuted by the fact Moses heard what happened “throughout all the land of Egypt.”
If no Egyptians availed themselves of God’s offer to spare their children if they obeyed His voice and put blood on their doors, is on their own head.
HOWEVER, the fundamental argument you made was God was evil for slaying these firstborn of rebellious humans, as punishment to them.
That is only possible if God were man, having nothing to do with the creation or sustaining of these people. As Creator God has fully right to do with His property, as He will.
Moreoever, as scripture shows children enter a blessed place upon death prior to the “age of responsibility”, your premise the death itself was evil, is false according to the scripture. Death is often looked upon as a blessing, not evil:
NET Job 14:13 “O that you would hide me in Sheol, and conceal me till your anger has passed! O that you would set me a time and then remember me! (Job 14:13 NET)
You have no argument.
One last word. Compare to the loons posting here, you come off as reasoned, so their posts of elevated you in my estimation, otherwise I wouldn’t have bothered with these replies.
At least you can reason…they apparently can only blaspheme.
Oh, “Rapture.” I thought it said rupture. Down, Fido!
I’m not watching anybody else’s goddamned dogs. So don’t even ask.
#67, You keep trying to rebut peripheral arguments, but I see that my central thesis remains untouched, and all your verbiage is nothing but twaddle if you cannot address that critical point.
You haven’t shown a single shred of scriptural evidence that Moses or any other Israelite disseminated the secret of the lamb’s blood ritual to even ONE EGYPTIAN, much less EVERY Egyptian across the land whose child would be killed. Tell me where it says that Egyptians knew about the lamb’s blood ritual. I want to read that story! Do you understand? Something so specific cannot be implied or assumed. They couldn’t do what they didn’t specifically KNOW to do. Don’t tell me what you personally BELIEVE — show me the Holy Scripture! For the purposes of this debate, I’m granting the premise that the scripture is TRUE, because even if taken at face value, this is the tale of a hateful deity.
Your smoke and mirrors about the “law of the foreigner” shows me how desperate you are to obscure how unjust and vicious this plague upon the Egyptians was. That law of the foreigner is IRRELEVANT, and didn’t exist until after the plague, and wasn’t even widely known to the Egyptian community! What about “irrelevant” don’t you understand?
Just show me the scripture proving all the Egyptians knew about, and rejected, the lamb’s blood ritual. I can’t wait to read it. That is the only thing that would inject even a tiny amount of fairness into this myth. As it is, it just looks racist…
“Then there shall be a great cry throughout all the land of Egypt, such as was not like it before, nor shall be like it again. But against none of the children of Israel shall a dog move its tongue, against man or beast, that you may know that the LORD does make a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.”
–Exodus 11:6-7, NKJV
#71 You haven’t shown a single shred of scriptural evidence that Moses or any other Israelite disseminated the secret of the lamb’s blood ritual to even ONE EGYPTIAN, much less EVERY Egyptian across the land whose child would be killed.
Pharaoh and his court were Egyptians, and what happened would “go viral” in Egyptian society.
You are grasping for straws, alerting the Egyptian Government WAS alerting every Egyptian.
The only smoke and mirror is your argument from silence, which logically is unsound.
You have no proof Moses’ words were not known to Egyptians, nothing in the text says that was the case.
You are assuming that is true, but the premise is very unlikely. Moses DID alert the Egyptian Government, and given the nature of these things, it would “go viral” just as similar events would “go viral” today.
As Pharaoh didn’t command his court NOT spread the news, given human nature as it is, it is impossible your premise they didn’t not spread the news, is correct.
Me, I prefer Blondie’s version of Rapture. Great song…
#71, All this talk about “viral” communications in primitive, agrarian Egypt is just about what I’d expect from you, along with the usual collection of unfounded assumptions, inferences, and beliefs.
Yet still I see no citations of scriptural evidence that all the Egyptians were given the specific secret of the lamb’s blood ritual, or that it could have even saved their children from being killed by your god. Instead, you appear to lay the burden of proof on me to show that Egyptians DIDN’T know the secret ritual, or that they COULDN’T have spread it virally. Without that proof of the negative, you think it quite natural to believe that every one of them had the power to save their child from god’s wrath, but chose not to do so. Wow, I did NOT see that coming — what a clever logician you are!
The Bible doesn’t even hint that the secret was given to anyone but the Israelites, and scripture clearly shows that the Egyptians were the intended targets, and that the Israelites were intended to be spared (although not guaranteed), as I already cited. For someone who reveres the Holy Scripture so much, you certainly don’t let it restrict you from going well outside its boundaries to find beliefs that suit you.
since god is on hiatus.
Randy Newman, Gods Song:
Cain slew Abel Seth knew not why
For if the children of Israel were to multiply
Why must any of the children die?
So he asked the Lord
And the Lord said:
“Man means nothing he means less to me
than the lowiliest cactus flower
or the humblest yucca tree
he chases round this desert
cause he thinks that’s where i’ll be
that’s why i love mankind
I recoil in horror from the foulness of thee
from the squalor and the filth and the misery
How we laugh up here in heaven at the prayers you offer me
That’s why i love mankind”
The Christians and the Jews were having a jamboree
The Buddhists and the Hindus joined on satellite TV
They picked their four greatest priests
And they began to speak
They said “Lord the plague is on the world
Lord no man is free
The temples that we built to you
Have tumbled into the sea
Lord, if you won’t take care of us
Won’t you please please let us be?”
And the Lord said
And the Lord said
“I burn down your cities–how blind you must be
I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we
You must all be crazy to put your faith in me
That’s why i love mankind
You really need me
That’s why i love mankind”
#47 Exegesis, not “all talk.” The Egyptian Government was duly warned, given 14 days to comply to the Creator.
If it were a strong army demanding this, likely Egypt would have complied.
But they thought they were stronger than God. They weren’t, they gambled with their own people’s lives, and lost.
There were plenty of scripture citations, you ignored them. You call a public declaration a “secret rite,” its clear you aren’t interested in arguing facts.
You have resorted to the usual progressive smear.
I’m done.
I won.
You lost.
#75, now you’re back to making up lies again, but that’s where you and your Christian, Jewish, and Muslim colleagues excel, so there’s no point in stopping now. The closest thing to a public declaration of the secret lamb’s blood ritual was made to the “elders of Israel,” not the people across Egypt. You keep trying to portray a situation where the Egyptians deserved to have their children killed. That’s truly sociopathic.
You have a vivid enough imagination to write your own Bible, but the one the rest of us have says that your god specifically told Moses that the Egyptians were the target, so not only are your continued claims completely unsupported by Holy Scripture, but it is illogical according to the stated objectives of this plague. No attempt whatsoever was made by your god or by the Israelites to spare the Egyptian children once Pharaoh’s decision was made.
You only make this unscriptural claim for the purpose of injecting some semblance of fairness in an attempt to obscure the hateful intent of a god who accomplishes his will by killing children, just as terrorists do today. Your declaration of victory is as hollow as your head.
I’ve already admitted to being mildly retarded, always trying my best to work around it, but now I’ve proven it for all to see by arguing with an total idiot.
Yes alfie won. He proved to everyone here he is the most fanatically “religious” idiot here.
Don’t look at it as slaying Egyptian children,
Think of it as god giving his stamp of approval to post-birth abortion.
#78 I was listening to Trump take the fight directly to Obama…its about time.
His support for infanticide, and lack of a birth certificate, is oddly reminiscent…
Weird.
re 79 The point is, you progressives don’t care one twit for children, either ancient Egyptian, or ours, both you and Obama support the murder of millions of babies, far more in one year, every year, than ever died in Egypt.
And unlike God, you have no right to abort them.