As President Obama weighed in on one of the most important issues of the day, outlining his plan to deal with deficit reduction and attack the national debt, at least one audience member did not appear to be fully engaged. Biden, at one point, could be seen apparently nodding off — or at least deep in thought. The bug was catching, too. The woman in glasses directly behind Biden appears to close her eyes too.

If you watch closely, you’ll see a little drool on the corner of his mouth.




  1. GregAllen says:

    Oh, please, this blog entry is a desperate attempt to deflect from the fact that Obama’s economic plan is a thousand times smarter than the Republicans.

  2. bobbo, the Rebuplicans want to Kill America says:

    Greg–I never thought of that. Truly evil rather than just harried or inept eh? Well, I’ll let McCullough respond to that if he chooses.

    Gee McCullough, if you do choose to respond, why would a mine worker be supporting the party that wants to take away their healthcare? That doesn’t make any sense.

    A real puzzler for sure.

  3. bobbo, the Rebuplicans want to Kill America says:

    Grandpa–two excellent links. Thanks.

    I recall about the time NAFTA got passed the “idea” that exporting jobs to foreign shores was good foreign policy because it would give America someone to trade with. This would also reduce the need for foreign charity/support. Yes, these things were actually said, and still echoe’d today.

    There is no explanation for America’s failure to fight back in this new Economic World War 1 except that failure to do so advantages the excessively large so called international corporations. They should be all “trust busted” to a size that makes them American centric. Probably too late, but why not save what is left?

  4. steve says:

    America fell asleep a long time ago.

  5. hmeyers says:

    Thanks Bobbo for being possibly the first person to get the idea I’ve said for years that NAFTA is killing us.

    And unlike your prior signature, both parties are killing us.

    Democrats won’t cut entitlements, Republicans won’t cut defense or corporate welfare.

    As a result, so far they compromise resulting in neither being touched. In a mythical world where my thoughts mattered to politicians, I would end involvement in Afghanistan/Germany/South Korean/Japan/Philippines/phase out of Iraq and turn over to the EU, raise the Social Security age incrementally, phase out the Bush tax cuts, turn Medicare/Medicare over to the states, eliminate unions in the public sector, end tax loopholes, kill NAFTA, enforce the border, order new nuclear power plants, legalize all drugs (which brings the revenue stream and distribution under the domain of US courts and puts criminals out of business), mandate 50 MPG as the standard, ban the import of oil, eliminate the patent and copyright system, require health and life insurance to use body weight as a factor, eliminate the State Department [isolationism does not need this].

    And this country would recover in a few years.

    And, of course, this will ALL happen anyway. Just that it occurs over the next couple of hundred years.

    Just not in a timely manner.

  6. bobbo, the Rebuplicans want to Kill America says:

    HMyers—I’ve agreed about NAFTA from the start and assume many other posters here do as well. It would take a post on issue I suppose to draw that out.

    but let me quibble on a few of your points. When intelligent/informed people disagree, one has to wonder: why? ((Perhaps an issue for Dr Phil?))

    In a mythical world where my thoughts mattered to politicians, I would end involvement in Afghanistan/Germany/South Korean/Japan/Philippines/phase out of Iraq and turn over to the EU, raise the Social Security age incrementally, phase out the Bush tax cuts, //// yea verily

    turn Medicare/Medicare over to the states, /// Making the program federal makes it portable. Usually this is code language for privatising or vouchering this safety net service. On its own, it means nothing without more details.

    eliminate unions in the public sector, end tax loopholes, kill NAFTA, enforce the border, /// yea, verily

    order new nuclear power plants, /// If you don’t “get it” with Fuckashima, you never will. Nuke = poison.

    legalize all drugs (which brings the revenue stream and distribution under the domain of US courts and puts criminals out of business), /// perhaps solving our budget crise within months of passage when adding in the savings in criminal justice area

    mandate 50 MPG as the standard, /// more like 200 mpg

    ban the import of oil, /// don’t be so authoritarian

    eliminate the patent and copyright system, /// greatly modify==again, don’t be so authoritarian

    require health and life insurance to use body weight as a factor, /// why? well—ok, I don’t want to be authoritarian but “group statistics” don’t control individual merit–except statistically which is what insurance is all about. But with Single Payer, there won’t be any health insurance.

    eliminate the State Department [isolationism does not need this]. /// Silly, but assume you are joking?

    And this country would recover in a few years. /// or months, but I’m kidding.

    And, of course, this will ALL happen anyway. Just that it occurs over the next couple of hundred years. /// Sadly, ….. or not.

  7. MikeN says:

    >How about a post about the validity of the speech?

    Not much in the speech worth analyzing. Biden had the right idea. I thought the President was going to present an updated budget request, instead he doesn’t even deliver what his own debt commission came up with, and instead calls for another commission.

  8. McCullough says:

    #22. “Truly evil rather than just harried or inept eh? Well, I’ll let McCullough respond to that if he chooses.”

    Truly evil, for certain.

    “Gee McCullough, if you do choose to respond, why would a mine worker be supporting the party that wants to take away their healthcare?”

    Actually, it’s an coal-fired power plant that serves So. Calif. (your digs)?. And as a contractor, I carry me own health insurance.

  9. bobbo, the Rebuplicans want to Kill America says:

    McCullough–no, I’m in North California, and I thought you were being totally allegorical. Amusing. I think the prime question still applies though.

    I’d love to share a few beers with you and get your inside views on Enron. Fascinating story, very revealing on a wide range of subjects. Evidently, your proximity to this clusterf*ck didn’t teach you much?

    Oh well, perhaps with a little massaging? Wouldn’t you “personally” be better off with Universal Health care? One of the “corruptions” of American Society I have always spied is the way UNIONS used the fulcrum of healthcare benefits to the harm of the rest of America.

    USA Business would be advantaged if healthcare was nationalized. Just shows how stupid they are that they fight it.

  10. MikeN says:

    >address/cure the deficit or is it like Ryans “Path to Prosperity” a total lie?

    I don’t know if it cures, but it certainly addresses it. Glad to see he is approaching health care along the lines of Medicare Part D. For all of Bush’s big government spending ‘compassionate conservatism,’ he managed to produce an entitlement program that came in under budget.

  11. bobbo, the Rebuplicans want to Kill America says:

    Lyin’ Mike==when you turn an entitlement program into a partially funded voucher program you haven’t done anything except killed it.

    Get it:::::: “KILLED IT” as in: THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO KILL AMERICA.

    Surely you aren’t this stupid, just a tool? Am I right????????

    I challenge anyone to set forth the argument that the Super Rich need more tax cuts while the poor, working, and middle classes need service cuts. Go ahead: make that argument.

    If not, Wake Up Fools. The Republicans want to Kill America but they can’t do it without your vote.

  12. McCullough says:

    Bobbo- Evidently, your proximity to this clusterf*ck didn’t teach you much?

    I wasn’t even in country when that went down. I relocate quite often. But yeah, clusterfuck is a good description.

  13. Glenn E. says:

    If you think Biden is a little sleepy. How tired and half asleep do you think a Prez McCaine would have been? And while giving his own speeches? Certainly while listening to Sarah Palin struggle on, trying to make sense of what somebody else wrote for her to say. Yeah, Obama was the better choice. At least he only puts Biden to sleep.

  14. Glenn E. says:

    Biden may be dozing off. But at least the whole GOP is paying close attention. Checking every word, to see what they can argue against. We’ve never had such a wide awake GOP, in decades. I doubt that even Bill Clinton’s speeches kept them on the edge of their seats. The GOP even has counter arguments ready, for things Obama hasn’t said. Or hasn’t said yet. The GOP is really working hard at being the NO NOO NOOOO party. Well at least you have to be awake to say NOOOOOO!

  15. Glenn E. says:

    I couldn’t find a topical place to mention the rising cost of gasoline. So here goes, here. Seeing how the US is supposed to be the world’s largest consumer of gasoline and oil. Then you’d think the US would have something to say about its pricing. I mean, if the US feels it’s being gouged by the oil producers and refiners. Then threatening not to buy it from the highest priced suppliers, ought to make them think about not jacking the price up so high. Just as taking your business to another bank or credit card, is supposed to get you better service or rates. Does it?

    I think all the US has to really do, it completely stop buying any oil from Al Gore’s oil company, Occidental. And the rest will freeze in their tracks. Then Gore will really have an inconvenient truth on his hands. But I suspect what this recent climb in gas prices is, is the result of last year’s huge oil spill. At least partly the reason. And the rest if from oil commodities speculative investing. To make up for all those default swap insurance investment losses. The world’s billionaires have to make back their losses, somehow. And BP has to make up for all the billions it still hasn’t paid out yet, to the gulf states.

  16. pedro says:

    So now NAFTA is a repuke idea. This discussion gets richer by the reply

  17. JackTheDripper says:

    “Wake Up Fools. Bobo just wants to keep repeating himself like a fool about Republicans wanting to Kill America.”

    Bobo, for the love of all that’s holy, stop being A) so repetitive, and B) such a all-knowing jackass.

    Your schtick is old, boring, and not entertaining in the least.

  18. bobbo, we think with words, and flower with ideas. says:

    Dripper–I’m gonna keep it up: when relevant until I get a decent response. Why don’t you give it a try?

    Post after post of repetitive Puke Dogmatic Talking points that don’t withstand scrutiny.

    I challenge you as stated. Support what you say, or stfu.

    As with all positions, if you agree with me, you are amused such as I am at the lack of response. If you can’t face your own dishonesty and stupidity, of course you hate it.

    FREEEEEEEE Speech—needs to be repetitive when the attacks are repetitive.

    Easy Peasy

  19. pedro says:

    #38 You have to excuse #39. He suffers from verbiage any time his meds run off, which is quite often. I bet he foams from his mouth everytime he writes pukes but feels a bit better afterwards. Is like placebo for his meds.



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