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A year after his resignation plunged Belgium’s Roman Catholic Church into a crisis, the former bishop of Bruges provoked almost universal condemnation on Friday, this time by admitting that he had abused a second nephew – and insisting that he was not a pedophile.
In a television interview late Thursday that reopened deep wounds, the bishop, Roger Vangheluwe, 74, recounted with apparent lack of contrition events leading up to his resignation as bishop of Bruges last year, when it emerged that nearly 25 years ago he had abused a boy who was later revealed to be one of his nephews.
Those revelations prompted hundreds of people to come forward, claiming that they, too, had been victims of priests, and forced Belgium’s Roman Catholic Church into its deepest crisis of recent times.
In a broadcast from a location in France, Bishop Vangheluwe, dressed in an open-neck shirt, suggested that the 13-year relationship revealed last year had not been opposed by his nephew, and, in an unexpected new twist, he admitted having abused a second nephew for a much shorter period…
Bishop Vangheluwe is not facing criminal charges because of Belgium’s 10-year statute of limitations, and the Vatican says he is receiving “spiritual and psychological treatment” outside Belgium…
During the interview, to which Bishop Vangheluwe had agreed only on the condition that it would be broadcast live, he denied that he had been driven by sexual motives…the abuse had been restricted to the touching of genitals…
Um, the Pope said – well, the Pope said nothing. When the abuse became public he condemned the police for searching church property and took the Bishop’s fate into his own hands. Since then – the Pope said nothing.
#40 Pedro
So not supporting NAMBLA is also evidence of malfeasance. Quite the kangaroo court you have set up here.
#41 Man, I knew you were dumb, but not this much.
#42 Perdedor
{sarcasm}The power of your argument is astounding {/sarcasm}
#43 Only surpassed by your power of understanding.
#38
What the Vatican and all other churches have not done is open their records about every incident and priest. Until they provide 100% transparency about all records and provide absolutely zero obstruction to any and all investigations, no one will believe them. The reason is simple: the upper echelon of the various churches are complicit in the cover up including and especially the sitting pope. In a way, we should be thankful. The hypocrisy of the churches and their religion could not have been made more evident than the protection of these priests.
RE: NAMBLA
Until you show an official statement from NAMBLA specifically and expressly endorsing pedophilia, your statement is empty. Frankly, I could care less about NAMBLA but your argument that if they covered up pedophilia it would be treated differently is a load of horseshit with zero evidence.
Progressive ideology is from the pit of hell, from abusing children, to killing them in the womb, millions of deaths are on its head.
Look in the mirror. Look what your religion has wrought. Priests molesting children by the score. 100′s of millions dead due to failed absence only programs in the face of AIDS. Millions of criminals created by mothers being coerced or guilted into having unwanted children which then turn criminal. Millions killed over the decades due to religious wars. Frankly, I don’t see why you wait for your rapture. If the next life is so much better, why not take the express lane and do yourself (and us) a favor?
With Alphie facination with and joining NAMBLA, I suppose I need to join that Baptist Church of Loons that spit on dead soldiers. On second thought, nah.
In defense of the Pope, I can see where washing a guys feet as Jesus often did could lead to some dick chomp. Especially with some wine nearby.
#45 You are inconsistent, I don’t recall your demanding Obama reveal his birth certificate, or college thesis, or grades.
How can you live with yourself?
As for the Catholic church, I’m not Catholic and not qualified to speak on their behalf, on this.
Dallas seems to be intimately involved with this subject, why don’t you ask him?
Fact is, behind every pervert, is a progressive organization just waiting to burst out, defending his/her rights to do the most disgusting things, in public.
You can’t change your history, heck, its all current events.
#39 Incorrect, the linkage is progressives to perversion. Behind every pervert, is a liberal/progressive organization pushing that agenda, and the DNC collecting dues.
Historically, it was considered progressive one have sex with anything that breathes.
The progressive factor is evident in those churches where homosexual priests etc are accepted…they are progressive in their political outlook.
Not conservative at all.
If you Google progressive and pedophila, you get lots of hits.
It therefore can be stated without fear of contradiction, within every pervert, is a dues paying progressive just waiting to burst out.
The saying about glass houses, casting stones, should have given you progressives pause when discussing homosexuality in the church.
Christians universally condemn homosexuality, we deny those progressives pushing for acceptance of homosexuality in all its forms, are really Christians.
The Bible certainly condemns ALL sexual immorality, classifying all sex outside of heterosexual marriage, as equally sinful.
#47 TeaDud
Not being qualified has never prevented you from commenting before.
#45 Have you even bothered to visit NAMBLA’s web page?
Doesn’t the name of the thing even make some current flow thru your neurons? How ’bout this discussion topic on their web page: “Discussions
Is the war on childlovers threatening everyone’s liberty?”
Nothing? No connection still? Man, you’re dumb!
#46 Don’t worry Dullas, I’m sure exposing kids to homosexuality doesn’t make them homosexuals, so no harm done right?
#45 Critics are universally scorned, answer why? Because they are usually unfair.
I’m not a Catholic, I do not know beyond the headlines what they are doing to resolve this. But Catholics I know to be of sound mind, and moral character, inform us they are reforming, making the changes necessary to stop this horror, and prevent it from ever happening again. THEY are paying attention, they are informed, they are qualified to discuss it.
If you want to discuss the issue with them, there are lots of Catholic apologetic sites for you to do so.
My only point here, while they have a problem with people going AGAINST their teachings, progressives promote homosexuality, and in the past, even pedophilia just as NAMBLA does today.
So progressive blogs ridiculing obviously deranged people of religious persuasion, for doing what progressives promote everywhere else, including our schools, is the height of hypocrisy.
Among those in hell, in its lower levels of greater torment, there be progressives.
#48
Fact is, behind every pervert, is a progressive organization just waiting to burst out, defending his/her rights to do the most disgusting things, in public.
And you justify this ridiculous generality in the face of the leaders of your religion regularly being prosecuted for child molestation how?
#49
The Bible certainly condemns ALL sexual immorality, classifying all sex outside of heterosexual marriage, as equally sinful.
And yet, the Christian churches have and still do cover up such incident which have occurred with their clergy. The words of the people that profess your religion do not match their actions; thus the hypocrisy.
#52
So progressive blogs ridiculing obviously deranged people of religious persuasion, for doing what progressives promote everywhere else, including our schools, is the height of hypocrisy.
Balony. Pedophilia is prosecuted regardless of religious background. However, the Christian churches have made covering up pedophilia and molestation an art form.
#53 There you go again, opening your mouth only to change feet.
Every Church in Christendom condemns pedo behavior, so any practicing such is doing so against the rules.
Progressives promote sick behavior, look at the blogs here promoting lesbian and incest with…under the guise of humour.
So progressive find sicko sex funny, and promote it at every opportunity, in press and film. Hollywood spews out deviate behavior as a badge of honor…
Its all controlled by progressives.
You have an agenda against God, you feel He wronged you in some way, so everything is spun against anything religious.
Fact is, your behavior, the zeal with which you fight against God, proves He truly exists, to you.
If you really believe He didn’t exist, the subject would bore you.
Its time you repent, turn away from your sins, humble yourself before the LORD, and He will lift you up.
“Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 1:1 NKJ)
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. (Rev 3:20 KJV)
#54
Every Church in Christendom condemns pedo behavior, so any practicing such is doing so against the rules
The rest of us live in the real world where evidence is used to back claims unlike religion. Numerous Churches have already been show to be covering up pedophilia and molestation. They might verbally state they condemn it but what matters are their ACTIONS in the face of tangible evidence which paints a very different story.
You have an agenda against God, you feel He wronged you in some way, so everything is spun against anything religious.
Way off base. I have an agenda against people that cover for reprehensible behavior such as pedophilia and molestation such as the various Christian denominations. Arguments such as “they are not “real” Christians”" or your NAMBLA rant are perfect examples of trying to deflect attention away from the effects of your religion’s brainwashing.
Further, I have a serious problem with hypocrites. The religious make loud arguments against homosexuality and then we find numerous examples of leaders of those same religions being homosexual. They make pronouncements of family values and then we find them involved in adulterous relations. They argue for being moral and then we find them prosecuted for criminal activity.
I could care less whether you believe in a deity or flying pink unicorns. What you personally believe is your own business however comical I may find it or however illogical it may be. However, I do have a problem with the behavior of the religious. You can believe the Earth is 6000 years old all you want, just do not try to have it taught as science. You can worship purple leprechauns for all I care on your own time; just don’t try to force children in public schools to recite your prayers. You may think homosexuals are evil, just keep that prejudice to yourself and don’t get in the way of letting them care for their own via marriage (or whatever you wish to call it). Like I said, what you believe is irrelevant. What you do is what matters.
Pedro said
I guess that doesn’t make him gay either. But that’s not wrong, isn’t it?
Then what happened to you? Oh ya, I forgot, you were born that way.
Alphie, my beeg boss.
Typical boss, you forget all the weettle boys you bring home. And don’t fourget:
http://morallowground.com/2010/12/17/douche-du-jour-house-republicans-rally-to-support-child-sex-slavery-and-rape/
I never knew Dumbbo was gay too! I thought the one around here that was “born that way” was Dallas. Or was it a choice he took? I’m confused. No wonder you defend him so much.
But again, don’t worry about the kid, exposing him to homosexuality won’t change his future behavior.