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Mike, it makes perfect sense that some of his top advisors pushed for the raid while others, or Obama himself, waffled. I see that as a good thing. For example, imagine Bush having a diversity of opinions available in 2002/2003, instead of a group of sycophants similar to any CEO-type. One system is inherently better for presidents where the other is (historically) dangerous to the country.
But as for advisors giving “the OK” that doesn’t make any sense. No sense at all.
#54. Thanks for the apology, old bag of bullshit.
The Salk killed-virus Polio vaccine was replaced by the Sabin live-virus oral vaccine in 1963 because of the more effective newer vaccine. Years later, the only polio cases in the US were CAUSED by the Sabin vaccine. Because of the original Salk vaccines higher safety level, the Sabin vaccine was replaced by the Salk Vaccine in 2000.
Live virus vs killed virus. Both worked to end the disease of Polio in the new world. Nowadays, there is a resurgence in Africa, due mainly to the Muslim suspicions of a Western vaccination.
AND it took our Community Organizer 16 hours to decide whether we should get him or not…in spite of the fact that is precisely what he campaigned on…
Conflicted no doubt, knowing Holder’s firm wanted to represent Osama.
#56. Please see a movie called “The Fog of War” a little conspiracy “theory” that caused the deaths of over 56,000 American soldiers and possibly up to a million N. Vietnamese.
And then you may shove your conspiracy “theory” up your ass.
You leftist loons owe us an apology, or an explanation how you can now agree with everything you once hated Bush for, but Obama adopted to accomplish this “heroism?”
Hypocrites, civil rights to YOU is just a talking point against Republicans, when its your guy who is John Wayne, you applaud…and expect polls to show a bump in your favor!
But while we pump $5 a gallon gas, we recall your hypocrisy…no bump.
#65–thomas==what was the “conspiracy theory” regarding the Vietnam War? I can think of several lies and bad approaches but they were all pretty much out in the open. I thought conspiracy theories pretty much had to have some secrecy about them? Same with Fog. War always has fog, that also is not a conspiracy.
So what are you thinking of/referring to?
For example, Seal Team 6 was smeared as Dick Cheney’s assassination Team by you leftist…
Google it yourself:
seal team 6 cheney
#68–Alfie==thanks. that was a good one. Might the difference be that when Cheney used this team he denied their existence whereas Obama proudly announced it?
thats one little difference.
Got any more good stuff?
#69 Let’s probe your logic…
When President Bush admitted Iraq had nothing to do with 911, then the left applauded his honesty and the correctness of the Iraq war?
When President Bush admitted the use of water boarding, then the left applauded his honesty and the correctness of this technique?
Fact is, the Left will do anything it wants, including violate every principle it claimed to believe in, because when it does it, its ok.
Hypocrites to the core…everything you profess to believe in, are just talking points to get elected…power is the goal, nothing else…because with power., comes wealth and fame.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/index.htm
Alfie the probe master leaving the neighborhood dogs to run away in confused horror===ahhh, can’t top the intro, I’ll leave it there.
Thomas–maybe I was just too jaded even back then but no body I knew believed the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was anything but a pretext. Not any better than the Weapons of Mass Destruction BS BushtheRetard used to cow congress into Gulf War II.
Surely, you weren’t fooled by either one? Were you? Conspiracies for Dummy’s?
#38
Cut to the chase and look into the Gulf of Tonkin. Here was a massive conspiracy with whole boatloads (literally) of people involved. Who says it can’t be done quiter easily?
When I was a kid the Liberals and Democrats used to have a bumper sticker that said “Question Authority.” It’s been replaced by Obama/Biden.
# 44 Mr, Ed – the Original (with comma)
I wonder why they keep referring to this as a “flawless” operation when they lost a $10 million dollar Blackhawk?
They didn’t lose it! They know exactly where they left it. Parked in Down Town Teabaggerville.
#73, JC
When I was a kid the Liberals and Democrats used to have a bumper sticker that said “Question Authority.” It’s been replaced by Obama/Biden.
That was NEVER a Democrat slogan. As far as the Yuppies, Hippies, Civil Rights Movements, and youth in general, the slogan was directed at EVERYONE with any power. That included Johnson and Richard Daley; both, very prominent Democrats.
Damn I hate it when people try to rewrite history.
#66, Alphie
You leftist loons owe us an apology, or an explanation how you can now agree with everything you once hated Bush for, but Obama adopted to accomplish this “heroism?”
If Bush had of approved a mission like this in 2001-2002 there would have been shouting and raucous cheering in the streets for days of praise for him. Nope, we didn’t have that national celebration, because the Bush and Rumsfeld led assault on Afghanistan allowed not only bin Laden to escape, but the rest of the Taliban hierarchy.
Do you see the difference doing what should have been done does to your credibility? Bush and all the tea baggers / neo-cons owe all of us, the American people, more than an apology.
#76. And there you have it. Fusion…YOU are the poster boy for selective gullibility.
I challenge you on the Lynch/Tillman propaganda. And the Gulf of Tonkin fairy tale, by a Liberal president.
But YOUR president would never be involved in nefarious activity, right Mr. F? Be careful how you answer, he still has 2 more years to prove you wrong.
#61, that’s not the story being put out there. The main elements:
1) Some advisers were pushing, Valerie Jarrett was saying no, and winning the argument to the extent the President was deferring the decision.
2) The switch to a raid was not to get proof, but a stalling tactic. He had the greenlight for the ground op, but they did not Panetta had already developed the plan.
3) Panetta gave the go order, WITHOUT informing the president.
4) Hillary and William Daley WERE aware beforehand, and the vice-president knew before Obama. They pledged support, if things went sour and Panetta was held out as a scapegoat.
5) Valerie Jarrett ordered an abort when she heard about it.
#78 The story has all the appearance of a fabrication…details are confused, and being contradicted as others speak out.
Evidently it took Obama MONTHS to decide, and as you note, it may have been Panetta who got tired of waiting on the Ditherer in Chief.
Obama was torn by the needs of Holder’s law firm to make billions defending Osama, and the horror of a leak they knew where Osama was for months, and did nothing.
So Panetta acted, that makes sense.
Now Obama was quick to release the photos of alleged wrong by our troops, with glee…why not Osama’s photo…something is very wrong about all this…
Typical progressive intrigue, nothing is real, no one has any principles, everything is spin and dishonest…
Can’t wait till 2012, just hope the country holds out that long.
Mike: giving a go for such an order, without POTUS, is suicide. Panetta could end up swinging from a rope for that. That’s why I don’t buy it. But we’ll see, in ten years when the memoirs are published.
Maybe Panetta sent word to prepare to deploy before final approval, but no way they enter Pakistan without POTUS saying go. No way, IMO.