I actually got an update this morning from Al Jazeera, then switched over to the Today show where they were doing an in-depth investigation of the heartbreak of bellybutton lint.
Read about it yesterday, and was hoping you (JCD) and Adam would have spoke about it on the NA show, but it broke while you guys were in the middle of it.
This guy gets all wound up against nuclear power but does not the blame lie in the fact that the designers put the generators in the basement? Bet they don’t do it THAT way again.
Now the Wall Street Journal is reporting this as well.
“Previously, Tepco officials had said they believed there had been “damage” to the fuel rods but didn’t specify what that meant. On Thursday, for the first time, officials conceded that the fuel rods likely had “melted,” crumbled or changed shape, and that the fuel had probably fallen from its casings.”
Don’t you love the wordplay in US media? Lots of “could haves”, “Likely”, maybe’s” and believed. While others more interested in reporting the facts and nothing but give solid confirmation.
With “High Tech” its always the issue that caused this horrible accident is pretty obvious now in hindsight and its been corrected. Problem is, there are 15 things the experts all know are possible to happen but not cost effective to address so it is claimed “safe” and we take our risks. Then the next accident will be one of the 15 things already well understood but not designed against.
Any one issue can be afforded, but ALL OF THE KNOWN RISKS cannot be designed against and afforded.
LIARS will tell you differently. But they are lying.
An official of Japan’s nuclear safety agency has suggested that a nuclear fuel meltdown at one of the damaged Fukushima reactors means that filling the reactor’s container with water may be meaningless.
Hidehiko Nishiyama told reporters on Friday that melted rods at the bottom of the No. 1 reactor are being cooled by a small amount of water.
He said he doubts that it’s necessary to flood the containment vessel entirely, as the plant operator has been trying to do.
The operator, TEPCO, said on Thursday that most of the fuel rods in the reactor are believed to have melted and sunk to the bottom of the reactor’s pressure vessel.
TEPCO says the melted fuel has apparently cooled, even though much of the injected water is leaking through holes at the bottom of the vessel. …….
I actually sent this into CNN’s news tip email and then called them as well. The idiots don’t even have it up on their main homepage.. its just ridiculous.
They have to design nuclear reactors with zip core separation facilities (where the fuel rods are hydraulically brought together against the force of gravity [up out of of sleeves coming at an angle from below,] and fall down to sub-critical masses,) and bury the whole reactor cores .5 Kilometer deep.
Then it would be safe.
You have to design for the worst case scenario.
The entire nuclear industry has to be run by sand hogs, ’cause the policy using accountants and politicians to run risk assessment has already been proved wrong.
Now that they have shamefully admitted to lying and purposefully withholding the factual truth from the public, who will forcefully demand and hold the Japanese government obligated to commit suicide?
If they dishonor themselves by hiding in shame without committing suicide, they need to be hunted down and executed.
#7 I guess we read the same story. I also learned about it today from the Drudge Report.
There are similar reactors at Browns Ferry not to many miles from my home. One of them was recently found to have a stuck valve that would have caused problems if they ever needed to use the emergency cooling system. No tornado damage though.
The Federation of Electric Power Companies of Japan (FEPC) daily information sheets (which I viewed through the Arms Control Wonk Blog) were more than enough information to determine that the fuel was melting during the crisis. The reporters are surprised because they weren’t understanding what the power companies were releasing.
With no way to safely store radioactive waste for 250,000 years, and no way to build a foolproof safe reactor, the big money nuke companies in the U. S. want this covered up as much as possible. Look forward to clean nuclear energy near you soon.
Actually, if you are able to read other East-Asian languages, this news is everywhere. Link in Korean (from one of the biggest newspaper in Korea)
http://news.donga.com/Inter/Japan/3/0213/20110513/37186396/1
I actually got an update this morning from Al Jazeera, then switched over to the Today show where they were doing an in-depth investigation of the heartbreak of bellybutton lint.
Read about it yesterday, and was hoping you (JCD) and Adam would have spoke about it on the NA show, but it broke while you guys were in the middle of it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8509502/Nuclear-meltdown-at-Fukushima-plant.html
No mention of “meltdown” in NYT.
Or do you say meltDOAN
A good source of information
http://fairewinds.com
I find it very interresting
This guy gets all wound up against nuclear power but does not the blame lie in the fact that the designers put the generators in the basement? Bet they don’t do it THAT way again.
Drudge Report had this info from AP yesterday.
#6 The problem with the generators was they were designed for like 6 foot wave and an 8 foot wave came. When No one ever saw an 8 foot wave before.
Yes my heights are wrong but that’s simplified answer.
Bullshit, the problem is the reactors are on an active earthquake fault. Screw the rest.
Now the Wall Street Journal is reporting this as well.
“Previously, Tepco officials had said they believed there had been “damage” to the fuel rods but didn’t specify what that meant. On Thursday, for the first time, officials conceded that the fuel rods likely had “melted,” crumbled or changed shape, and that the fuel had probably fallen from its casings.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576318470827245128.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird
@ Ah_Yea
Don’t you love the wordplay in US media? Lots of “could haves”, “Likely”, maybe’s” and believed. While others more interested in reporting the facts and nothing but give solid confirmation.
With “High Tech” its always the issue that caused this horrible accident is pretty obvious now in hindsight and its been corrected. Problem is, there are 15 things the experts all know are possible to happen but not cost effective to address so it is claimed “safe” and we take our risks. Then the next accident will be one of the 15 things already well understood but not designed against.
Any one issue can be afforded, but ALL OF THE KNOWN RISKS cannot be designed against and afforded.
LIARS will tell you differently. But they are lying.
Though you and Adam Curry thought the problems at Fukushima were a lot of hype?
I actually just looked this up on NHK’s website. Its absolutely true.
link for the story is here:
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_26.html
An official of Japan’s nuclear safety agency has suggested that a nuclear fuel meltdown at one of the damaged Fukushima reactors means that filling the reactor’s container with water may be meaningless.
Hidehiko Nishiyama told reporters on Friday that melted rods at the bottom of the No. 1 reactor are being cooled by a small amount of water.
He said he doubts that it’s necessary to flood the containment vessel entirely, as the plant operator has been trying to do.
The operator, TEPCO, said on Thursday that most of the fuel rods in the reactor are believed to have melted and sunk to the bottom of the reactor’s pressure vessel.
TEPCO says the melted fuel has apparently cooled, even though much of the injected water is leaking through holes at the bottom of the vessel. …….
I actually sent this into CNN’s news tip email and then called them as well. The idiots don’t even have it up on their main homepage.. its just ridiculous.
I’m not emailing anyone else. Well maybe Fox.
This crap is exactly why I want Mr. Fusion home and car power supplies.
This is totally dreadful.
That’s histeria from the Frech contingent.
They have to design nuclear reactors with zip core separation facilities (where the fuel rods are hydraulically brought together against the force of gravity [up out of of sleeves coming at an angle from below,] and fall down to sub-critical masses,) and bury the whole reactor cores .5 Kilometer deep.
Then it would be safe.
You have to design for the worst case scenario.
The entire nuclear industry has to be run by sand hogs, ’cause the policy using accountants and politicians to run risk assessment has already been proved wrong.
Now that they have shamefully admitted to lying and purposefully withholding the factual truth from the public, who will forcefully demand and hold the Japanese government obligated to commit suicide?
If they dishonor themselves by hiding in shame without committing suicide, they need to be hunted down and executed.
#7 I guess we read the same story. I also learned about it today from the Drudge Report.
There are similar reactors at Browns Ferry not to many miles from my home. One of them was recently found to have a stuck valve that would have caused problems if they ever needed to use the emergency cooling system. No tornado damage though.
The Federation of Electric Power Companies of Japan (FEPC) daily information sheets (which I viewed through the Arms Control Wonk Blog) were more than enough information to determine that the fuel was melting during the crisis. The reporters are surprised because they weren’t understanding what the power companies were releasing.
With no way to safely store radioactive waste for 250,000 years, and no way to build a foolproof safe reactor, the big money nuke companies in the U. S. want this covered up as much as possible. Look forward to clean nuclear energy near you soon.
hmmm. Anyone ever hear of thermal pollution?