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  1. Buzz Mega says:

    If this country were being run by Apple, there would be no recession.

  2. foobar says:

    jbenson2, 2011 – 30 != 1965

    Maybe you should buy a Mac. :-D

  3. TooManyPuppies says:

    Hopefully we soon end up like Snow Crash so I can move to Apple Town and start my own franchise of The Clink.

  4. msbpodcast says:

    In # 11 JimD said: …Apple has to STEAL IT FROM…

    Give it a rest. You sound like an idiot.

    Nobody’s forcing kids to buy squat.

    They don’t have the discretionary income to do it.

    The iPod is a dying franchise, (and Apple is perfectly aware of it,) and iPads and iMacs aren’t for kids except of the grown-up variety.

    I’m 57 and I own lots of kit from everybody, but I prefer my Apple stuff. I’m not a kid and I’m not a hater like you.

  5. msbpodcast says:

    In # 12 jbenson2 said: … Mexico unemployment 4.9% vs 9.4% in US

    Yup, ever wonder what they’re doing right?

    You should.

  6. chuck says:

    #25 – What is Mexico “doing right”?

    A: They export their unemployed to another country just north of them. Problem solved.

  7. pedro says:

    #24 No, is just kids and people in general have their priorities completely effed up. They prefer to be instantly gratified by a shiny toy than add productivity & ideas for the good of the country.

    If nobody sees how pathetic this fact is, is because you are part of the problem.

    #26 Exactly. And the Dems want them for cheap votes and the Rep for cheap labor

  8. foobar says:

    pedro, Apple actually has products and they are pulling up an important sector for the US along with a handful of other companies. If it wasn’t for Apple and Google then non-US company would be dominating the global move to mobility. But then you do like Win2K. ;-)

    Biomedical and diversified energy should also be growth industries.

    Manufacturing in the US has dropped from 24% of GDP at around 1980 to around 11% today. In the same period financial services has grown from 10% to 23%.

    I’m amazed how many Americans rat shit on their own growth companies in the private sector and don’t have an alternative. You might not like their products. Fair enough. But don’t blame them for the US’s financial incompetence.

    I’ve made a whole shit load of money of Apple stock. Thank you AAPL, that was easy money.

  9. The Dude says:

    #10, Agreed. Peedro loves our government’s handouts too much to give them up. Hence his stance.

    He also would rather buy a device that requires constant rebuilds and tweaking instead of one that works. Anything he doesn’t understand how to use he labels as a toy. This narrow-minded viewpoint he promotes is his forte. (as is putting words in other peoples mouths)

    Stand by for his crafted boondoggle reply of words that are constructed to sound clever but really mean nothing!

  10. bobbo, the future comes, and then you live in the past says:

    Obviously a successful corp like Apple needs tax breaks and loopholes so that it can make more money so it can create JOBS. Heh, heh–even more circular than normal given Steve’s last name.

    Oh, well. You know the drill. Steve would rather “do nothing” than drive his company to success if you increased the corp tax rate by 3% on those marginal dollars over One Million, because, you know, unlike you and me, he’s an entrepreneur who is motivated only by the exercise of absolute freedom, ie, absence of taxes.

    Dogma.

    How tall a pile of cash does it take before it becomes clear that corps benefit from a society that can afford to purchase their products?

    All hail excess of revenue over expenses.

    Yea, verily.

  11. LibertyLover says:

    I think people should look for the tongue in cheek wrt his comment on taxing them to death. He was pulling your leg. And it worked.

  12. Bob says:

    If apple spent money like the US government, they would not only be broke, but Jobs and the rest of their board would be in jail.

  13. Zybch says:

    So, Apple corp has more money than the govt, but they are throwing a hissy fit and crying that they need a tax free period to bring back their bank accounts to the US from Ireland, simply so they can avoid paying the same taxes that EVERYONE else has to.
    Apple are as morally bankrupt as the govt is financially.

  14. pedro says:

    #31 People here are so damned slow…

    But is always amusing to bring out the hypocrisy on the “liberals” dwelling around the blog. The Turde is so easy to be had.

    #28 I have been as mobile as I can be with any of the mac toys of today since winmobile 2003, which only show how stupid macfans like you are. Can’t see real useful products if they don’t come in shiny hardware, more expensive, closed & crippled down. Better wait until mac do it for me.

    And yes, you can do your own cloud with win2k. Heck, even with win95. But you had to wait until someone spoon fed it to you.

    Stupidity in the midst of greed is what bring countries down and people like you are the ones who are responsible for that “achievement”

    Oh, and Biomedical is not getting better thanks to all the stupidity brought forth with Obamacare. And before you come back with any sheeple argument, I warn you that my field is Biomedics.

    #32 The endless world of “liberal” cognitive dissonance. If, as one naive people here suggested, Jobs were the POTUS, the Dems. would block any spend-cutting measure Jobs puts for the Senate’s approval.

    Idiots!

  15. Fed up with congress says:

    The big difference is Apple earned it’s cash.

  16. msbpodcast says:

    Who the fuck ever said government was supposed to make money? (And please no shit about them printing it either. That’s the Fed’s job and the Fed are not part of the government.)

    You don’t make money protecting people from greedy scamsters, arsonists, leg-breakers, and natural disasters.

    You don’t make money protecting you from diseases.

    You don’t make money cushioning the economy when times are tough, like now.

    Anybody who thinks that governments are supposed to make money has got the wrong idea about what a government does, and who its supposed to do it for.

    Its not for the rich to use to get richer with tax loopholes while we all pay, with gummint contracts

    Its not for lawyers to use to entrap and ensnare us in a myriad rules and regulations.

    Its not for insurance companies to make money denying us coverage.

    Its not the police to get away with murder, literally.

    I’m all for small government, but somethings benefit from economies of scale and somethings are falling between the cracks of every state in the union. (Read your constitution. Whatever isn’t handled locally it the States responsibility. Whatever isn’t handled by the states is the federal government’s responsibility. [The Tea Partiers have it all wrong. The constitution is not an exclusive document but an inclusive one.])

    John F. Kennedy had it right when he restated the millennia old centurion’s creed: Ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country.” (And he was the son of a repentant booze runner. I know. I am the son of a biochemist who worked for an unrepentant booze distiller who made it for ‘em. [Seagram's has a long and distinguished history. {Lately working for Vivendi}])

    There is nothing wrong with being in a fascist republic, unless they can’t even keep the mail delivered (or keep the broadband broad) or keep the planes/trains/automobiles running on time (and I don’t want to hear about the potholes on your street every spring.)

  17. foobar says:

    #34 pedro

    Until Apple came along Nokia and RIM were holding the mobile cards. Now it’s Apple and Google – two American companies comrade. They’ve also created the best growth opportunities for small developer shops in years. Remember that thing about small businesses creating jobs?

    When I talk biomedical I honestly don’t know a lot about it other than I’m putting money into startups and doing well. Keep up the research there buddy. Cycle times are longer than tech but it’s pretty apparent that it’s a growth field. Also I see a lot of iPads being used by researchers and doctors. I’m guessing you’ll have one soon.

  18. foobar says:

    Zybch. So you’re arguing, to Apple shareholders and customers, that they should put their money in American banks? And pay higher taxes for the risk to doing it and charge more for products and lower returns for shareholders? You’re pretty savvy at this business thingie stuff.

    They did lower their effective tax rate to about 24%. Compare that to Google or GE comrade.

  19. foobar says:

    Zybch. Move your own cash off the greenback into something like AUS$. With the Tea Party trying to screw over the US financial system expect a lot of stress on currency rates and bond ratings very soon. I’m expecting a $1.20 AUS$ soon.

  20. kgbt says:

    Well, it looks like the americans love apple more than their country. Keep dreaming about the next years apple product release and discuss about apple vs google and Jobs vs Gates The chinese will take the economy. When the theories that east is going to take over the west have surfaced, I never believed them but now I think it is going to happen. Your steve jobs is also shifting the focus to china now. It is possible that after 5 yrs, you get the new iPhone may be after 8 months after its release in china



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