Come on. Fess up. Which one of you actually believed them when told we’d pull out entirely?

America and Afghanistan are close to signing a strategic pact which would allow thousands of United States troops to remain in the country until at least 2024, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

The agreement would allow not only military trainers to stay to build up the Afghan army and police, but also American special forces soldiers and air power to remain.

The prospect of such a deal has already been met with anger among Afghanistan’s neighbours including, publicly, Iran and, privately, Pakistan. It also risks being rejected by the Taliban and derailing any attempt to coax them to the negotiating table, according to one senior member of Hamid Karzai’s peace council. A withdrawal of American troops has already begun following an agreement to hand over security for the country to Kabul by the end of 2014.

But Afghans wary of being abandoned are keen to lock America into a longer partnership after the deadline. Many analysts also believe the American military would like to retain a presence close to Pakistan, Iran and China.




  1. Dallas says:

    We don’t need to leave that shithole, just end combat operations. For sheeple like Pedro, that means end the war.

    That shithole is probably a far better place to protect our empire than Germany. Those nazis can protect themselves by now from the Russians.

  2. hearingproblem says:

    “The Whore Are. The Whore Are.” — Col. Kurtz

  3. Faxon says:

    Bring just a tiny fraction of the troops to Oakland. That’s where they can do some good for the country. I’m sure the ACLU and Mayor Quan would be happy to see them arrive.

  4. jbenson2 says:

    Uncle Dave, do you mean that Obama lied and our troops will continue to die?

  5. mikiev says:

    #12: “We won’t leave until there’s a government capable of keeping al Queda-type groups from plotting attacks on America.”

    What I do remember was Dubya’s plan to “open a 2nd front in the War on Terror”

    Or was Iraq the 2nd front?

    US soil was 1st front, wasn’t it, after 9/11? [Perma-stan was 2nd and Iraq was 3rd front?]

    Anyway, the purpose of troops in those places was to give the terrorists a way to attack America without them having to travel to America to do it.

    As per Dubya’s famous “Bring it on!” statement.

    Give them local, heavily-armed targets to attack, instead of defenseless American citizens in the US.

    Its worked like a charm for 10-years and counting.

    Once we pull all our troops back to the US, then the terrorists will have no choice but to come to the US to attack us – no matter what the government in Perma-stan is like..

  6. sargasso_c says:

    Buzz off kids, they’re taking my photograph for DU.

  7. deowll says:

    #2 asked the right question and nobody answered it.

    Who is going to pay for it? If you can’t cover the cost of an army it will vanish like frost in a furnace.

    41% of fed gov spending is borrowed money. We got down rated by more than one organization though most of you were only aware of the member of the big three. Moody made it clear that all they are saying is that in the short term the US will pay the interest.What they didn’t say made it clear that in the long term they haven’t any confidence in the US even though it is in their best interest put the best face on things.

    1/3 of the national debt has to be refinanced each year because smart money does not want to be caught holding US bonds when the Greenspan pay off plan goes into effect: print all the money needed.

    No matter who claims otherwise simple math says we can’t pay for a lot of what has been promised state side and it costs a million dollars a head to support a grunt in Afghanistan. That will get worse as our money loses value.

    I give it five years and our navy is in dry dock and we have no forces outside the US.

    Is Joe B. still in China kissing the feet of our new overlords?

  8. jescott418 says:

    Where we have fought, we have stayed! Its that simple. Don’t let Politicians fool you into believing otherwise.

  9. pedro says:

    Please give a round of applause to the latest Dumbya apologist: #15

    Bravo!

    #21 That’s all you got? You disappoint me sheeple

  10. LibertyLover says:

    I’m shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you!

    Wow, none of us saw this coming.

  11. What? says:

    The military has three jobs.

    1. Kill people.

    2. Take land.

    3. Occupy the land.

    Everywhere the military is, it is performing one of those roles (except the US).

    And it always will.

  12. The Pirate says:

    I surmised this well over 5 years ago on this very board.

    My solution at this time is to legalize weed in the United States and use our new found farmer friends to grow and export in volume fine Mountain Haze Afghani to the world. Enlighten minds, wallets, and prospects.

    This is the only good that can come from a 21st Century Injun country. The only good indeed.

    I encourage good.

  13. LowTechNo says:

    Obama = The Abominable SHOW_MAN.

    This above, is a play on the words:

    Abominable SNOW_man of the Himalayas …

  14. Grandpa says:

    #2 It’s coming from our Social Security.

  15. Grandpa says:

    Thank you #9. That was awesome!

  16. foobar says:

    I do miss Freddy.

  17. cheapdaddy says:

    This might have been prevented if Warbomber’s dad had pulled out. (Or George HW for that matter)

  18. Animby - just phoning it in says:

    # 16 DaveLG said, “Pakistan is no small, backward country”

    I’ve lived and worked there and, well, it’s not a tiny country, a little bigger than Texas but much of it is uninhabitable. But they ARE backward. Yes, ahead of Afghanistan but well behind Iraq. The only reason they are a concern at all is because they got that durned nuke thing going on.

    Still, it’s assumed they only have about 50 functioning devices and about that many more slowly leaking rads. I’d suggest we put all our SEALs and other Special Forces on a major raid to end the Paki’s nuke capability and then stop funding them. They’ll rot away to nothing in a decade.

    Yeah, we catch some flak from China. Not much. They’d be secretly pleased. India would certainly be happy and that converts 1/4 of the world’s population into fans of America! Don;t believe me? Just call any help line phone number and ask the people in Mumbai.

  19. t0llyb0ng says:

    Osama figured it out. The only way to make us go away was to entice us to ruin our own economy. He’s dead now but he won his war. We’re toast. Just hasn’t played itself out yet. Keep them money pre$$e$ rollin’

    A stupendous mega-depression is unavoidable now. Nobody knows how to make anything from scratch anymore. The trucks that used to bring milk & bread won’t show up. Remember that nice grocery store we used to have?

    No more utilities. Water, natural gas, electricity.  Nobody will know how to keep themselves alive through the winter. ”Have a nice day.” Dumb-basses.

  20. Dallas says:

    #29 You should celebrate!

    I thought you liked that tax payers subsidize the protection of the oil fields for the oil companies? Wassamatter with you?

    Also, don’t you like that the military is a GOP endorsed jobs program? Oh and think of all the government issued underwear and socks these boys are gonna need in that heat!



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